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Nothing officiali don’t want to report unverified information. Has anyone got any updates on a suspect?
Nothing officiali don’t want to report unverified information. Has anyone got any updates on a suspect?
I don't see it as making accusations. But you do realize in a lot of these cases we sleuth it DOES actually turn out to be a family member?It's one thing to be the police and investigate all possibilities. Its another thing to make accusations publicly. If the SIL is innocent, how much additional pain have you and others caused the Guthrie family? We should all ask if we want to be a positive force or a negative one, that makes others' life a little harder.
And one could have reasonably expectedI wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.
Is there some chatter out there about it?Nothing official
I’m glad her friend raised concerns, if they didn’t, it might have been another day before she was discovered missing.Megyn Kelly is reading from the paywalled Daily Mail article in the clip below, and she mentions this, from the article: NG was due to meet a group of friends to watch the church service online together. She says that the alarm was raised when NG didn’t join them. It’s not clear to me whether this was an online gathering or not but it helps explain the part that some people have been questioning, if true.
100% this.1. Family was last one to see her before she went missing.
2. Family was the one to notice she was missing from home and called 911 from there. (That means they had access to getting inside.)
3. Family's car was towed by LE.
4. Days later family's home was searched and photographed late at night by LE.
To our knowledge, no other homes or cars were searched (besides Nancy's).
Discussing family's involvement does not seem unreasonable.
OK, perfect. This is what I want to hear. Honest answers.Honestly? Suspected them the moment I learned she has been at AGES house right before SIL dropped her home. It's always the last person to see them alive you need to look extra long and hard at.
With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?
100% Yes on everything.I fear this case has been botched from the get go.
The State Police should have been brought in IMMEDIATELY to help with this case. This tiny agency is not equipped.
Both Nancy’s AND Annie’s properties should have been sealed off as crime scenes. NO MATTER WHAT. Those were the last supposed places Nancy was seen alive. All vehicles should have been seized.
Then ALL the family members should have been dragged down to the police station and DRILLED. Questioned. Proved their timeline by providing corroborating evidence. Taken polygraphs, etc.
All electronic devices should have been seized.
All vehicles should have been seized.
And should have been done for purposes of elimination. Eliminate the family first. Then work out.
This is LE 101
These “statements” about driving Nancy home, at what time, by whom, and what exactly happened at the drop off don’t make any sense. Was it just the SIL? Was it Annie & the SIL? How does an 85yo woman with SERIOUS physical limitations get into her garage in 2 minutes? There should be history on that remote opener to show the average time it takes her. 2 minutes just seems way too short.
Crime scene experts should have gone over BOTH properties with a fine toothed comb. As well as all vehicles. These were places that Nancy was confirmed to be.
That first critical 48hr window has been lost here because of sloppy police work. And the delay of reporting Nancy’s disappearance.
We are now into the 2nd week and they are just now checking Annie’s house with Luminol. After the family has continued living there? And possibly doing a clean up??
They just discovered there was a camera on the roof of Nancy’s house. What else did they miss?
We have a supposed ransom demand that has not been confirmed legitimate.
My questions are these:
1. Why haven’t the family members been eliminated as suspects?
2. Why can’t they confirm the legitimacy of this ransom demand?
3. Why do they keep going back and doing basic things that should have been done on day 1 or day 2?
4. And WHY would the Sheriff go to a basketball game with a case like this going on so early in an investigation? Normally a case is worked by all involved without sleep for days. They’re not going to events. This is a very bad look.
This is heading for a catastrophic conclusion. In more ways than one.
Ugh yes. Brendt Christensen. He attended the vigil for Yingying Zhang after he killed her.Sometimes perps return to the crime scene pretending to observe or pay respects. They like to connect to the investigation. Same with the victim's funeral.
I agree. The call coming from a member of the church doesn’t really make sense at all because they would know she doesn’t attend physical services. What if the call was actually from the people that have her? Maybe they called the family and said we have your mom.I definitely believe that the church report is nonsense.
And actually significant since LE initially reported that a family member told LE that they went to check on NG at her house because a person called them from NG's church to let them know she wasn't there. But, LE interviewed the pastor who reported that NG hasn't been to the church services in-person since before COVID.
This was initially on the LE Timeline and it's been since dropped from the timeline. Likely LE hasn't discussed this since the first presser since there are some concerning problems in this story if the family actually told them that somebody from the church called them to report Nancy wasn't in church.
My thought is LE isn't discussing this because it's important in the investigation and they want to further investigate the involved parties without stating that they are persons of interest.
MOO
In other words, we might update you sometime...or not.About 20 minutes til the deadline.
Here’s the latest from Sheriff Nanos:“We do not have any additional information to release publicly this afternoon. The investigation into Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance remains active and ongoing.
We understand the significant public interest in this case; however, investigators need time and space to do their work. If and when relevant information becomes available, it will be shared.”
JP Getty III, Jaycee Dugard...This feels like a hoax. Adult kidnappings are rare for the most part. When is the last time we heard about an adult or child being kidnapped for ransom?
Here are two I can recall and Wikipedia link:
Patty Hearst
Lindbergh baby
List of kidnappings - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Yes...I agree. Opposing opinions have value too. If we all agreed, what would we all talk about....how smart we all are? I've thought from day 1 that someone in the family was involved. That doesn't mean I can't see innocent reasons for LE to search AG's house.I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.
So was FBI only brought in to handle the ransom part of the investigation?
I really wish they were point, I hate to say i don’t have confidence in local LE…. but well ummm
"Random" family member, but not TO specifically, right?Not true. Immediate thoughts of a random family member were expressed.