AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ArabianLover]

Great points.

Ah, And the garage opening for a measly 2 minutes. Maybe they were putting the Apple watch in her vehicle. Then went in another door .
Now I'm just reaching. For some reason the sheriff didn't want to tell us if there was forced entry, I've heard there was, then he stated "I never said there was forced entry or there wasn't. I can see why they would keep that from the public, rightfully so.

NG could also have a garage door opener app on her phone. The door could have easily been opened and closed from AG’s house.

 

[TheDinks]

Yes, but some of these ex-fbi people are at liberty to point out logical but unproven details that LE cannot discuss right now that some viewers may be interested in hearing. I like to filter through those ideas.
Ex-fbi Maureen O'Connell's comments today that she doubts that this was ever a kidnapping aligns with my own Theory.
At about the 4 minute mark on this video

Ex-FBI agent doubts Nancy Guthrie disappearance was a kidnapping | Fox News Video

Panelists Nicole Parker, Gregg Jarrett and Maureen O’Connell discuss the ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of ‘Today’ show host Savannah Guthrie on ‘Hannity.’

www.foxnews.com

Oh I really like Maureen, am aware of her take on this case...I mostly see her talking on Brian's broadcasts... she lives in neighbouring area to Reiners and was there, discussing with Brian at the time.

Anyway, thanks... will check this out!

 

[Cipher Vale]

So can the scenario still be true that they already DID have a sealed warrant to search, and then asked consent, and they said yes, so then technically the search was due to an informal consent by AG/SIL, not a warrant?

Yes, it would be a due to informal consent and the warrant would not be revealed

 

[MollyHarps]

I don't think NG ever left the house that Uber driver dropped her off at. I am beginning to think perhaps the blood droplets happened a diferent day and NG just didn't clean it up.

Wasn’t her pacemaker syncing until 2am?
That suggests to me she did return home.

 

[Navillus923]

Wow I just discovered that the Arizona DPS website lists an approximate time the family was alerted that Nancy had not shown up for church. (Online services at her friend's home we now know)

"At approximately 12:15 on 02/01/2026, family was alerted that Nancy had not shown up for church."

SAFE Alert | Department of Public Safety

www.azdps.gov

If this time is right then this would mean that LE has info that the family was "looking" for Nancy BEFORE the friend's alert went out.

This may be why the time of the friend's contact was left off of the February 5th presser because they would have had to state that the time the family started looking for Nancy 11:56 a.m. and the time the family contacted Police 12:03 p.m. was BEFORE the friend's alert at approximately 12:15 p.m.

I Really think it was 12:15 when the police Arrived at NG's house


" Pima County Sheriff's deputies arrived at Nancy Guthrie’s home at 12:15 p.m. on Sunday, February 1, 2026. This followed a 911 call made by her family at 12:03 p.m. after they discovered she was missing" .

 

[justpeachy22]

It may just be me, but I see what happened to NG and the kidnapping/ransom notes as separate things. If someone close is responsible, they’d have to keep up the kidnapping charade, otherwise it would reveal what really happened. JMO.

Separate, yes I do think so. My guess is that the FBI has had a hunch all along that the ransoms were all fake, but in order to do a good job they have to assume the ransoms are real; they have to cover their bases, they have the family put out pleas, and give out specific instructions for what those pleas should say, and put up the billboards. because they're doing a good job. ok enough with my opinions today.

 

[Cipher Vale]

But to be clear, cops can't just go to a judge and say "we suspect them in a kidnapping and we want to search their house." They need specific evidence to convince a judge to issue the warrant and the warrant must be fairly specific regarding what they are looking for. Evidence collected outside the scope of the warrant can't be used at trial.

A consentual warrant is far more dangerous because they can seize anything they find even it was not something they were looking for. I personally would never consent to a search for any reason no matter how innocent I were.

That's very true.

Although the package to the DA would still need to provide some good articulated reasoning for why certain things were searched - that only comes up when evidence is found and often is justified with the "in my training and experience" line. You still have the rights when it comes to consensual searches and can actually define your consent to only those things you allow searched.

I'd never consent to a search either.

 

[annpats]

NG was comfortable in her home. Probably no criminal problems in the area. Cameras. Family nearby. Guesses are she was over-confident, never considered she could be harmed.

Well, surely that's the standard isn't it? That's how everyone's home should be!

 

[annpats]

I don't think NG ever left the house that Uber driver dropped her off at. I am beginning to think perhaps the blood droplets happened a diferent day and NG just didn't clean it up.

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

Nancy took an Uber to their home. Jmo.

 

[su5ie]

What did Nancy work as before she retired , was she still active in a role of administration in any community based programmes

Potential suspects for me would be , church goer or someone related to them , former Co worker , jilted former companion , stalker of SG or one of her siblings or nancy herself ( you don't have to be famous to have a stalker ) someone in the community with a mental illness or bearing a grudge

It's a wide net but to conceal a person tells me it's a person known . A murder that occurred during a burglary wouldn't really warrant a concealing of Nancy as the hassle of moving a body is hefty and wouldn't be in a burglars interests imo and would a person breaking and entering not have a gloves on and or a mask to conceal identify.

I think she will be eventually found within a 5km radius of her home

Don't statistics state that a person known to a victim will generally try to cover up their crime whereby a person with no connection ( beyond 6° ) will generally not conceal

We see in the idaho murders BK did not try conceal the bodies , ok maybe that's a bad example but you get my point .

Is there any chance whatsoever that Nancy had an onset episode of some sort and wandered off herself?

Jmo moo and speculating and me being inquisitive

 

[shonyakay]

That’s very different from reports that it was 11:00 am. Here’s a Feb 3 article:

My point being that the reporting on this detail is wildly inconsistent. ETA: I remain baffled at why. A phone call is a fixed point, and easily verified. If they can report the exact time the anonymous Uber driver dropped her off on Saturday, they can state the exact time this call was received. It’s probably the least complicated fact to verify in this case, and they can’t seem to manage to tell the truth about it.

I agree a phone call is a fixed point which means it may not have been a phone call but some other contact i.e. contact in-person for instance. Or since the church service was online the contact might have been via email.

Not having this information is frustrating and causing speculation like wild fire through social media.

 

[su5ie]

Just wanna say in response to the “who the hell would want that”… I have first hand experience with an individual who was around NG’s age that was sexually assaulted and ultimately died as a result for a gang initiation.

ETA: I should say I have first hand experience from the medical side, this was not an individual that I knew personally. Regardless, it was a very upsetting and tragic situation for all involved. The perp was very young too. Just awful all around.

Interesting, gang initiation???

Have not seen that come up but very plausible indeed

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

The Pima County Sheriff's Department has said that Nancy took an Uber to her daughter's house,

which is about 10 minutes from her own home in the Catalina Foothills, just north of Tucson, Arizona, for dinner and some

Mahjong on Saturday, Jan. 31.

At the end of the evening, police say, Nancy got driven home by her son-in-law, Cioni.


He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open.”

Authorities Search Annie Guthrie's Home for 3 Hours in Connection to Mother's Disappearance

Media in the area reported seeing investigators inside the home on Saturday night.

www.yahoo.com

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person

 

[shonyakay]

Wasn’t her pacemaker syncing until 2am?
That suggests to me she did return home.

Nancy could have been anywhere when she and her watch were synching she did not necessarily have to be at her home.

Both Nancy and her watch were syncing until they no longer were around 2 ish a.m.

All we know is that the watch was found at the home when LE was contacted we don't know how or where it separated from Nancy only when.

 

[tricia]

SG’s brother-in-law .... SG's brother is Aces ​

THANK YOU for the correction

 

[TIGER0822]

BIG APOLOGY PLEASE READ ​

I want to apologize for how I handled things yesterday.

There is a great deal that goes on behind the scenes that most of you never see. It can be incredibly frustrating to repeatedly post instructions, only to have them ignored, and then have to remove hundreds of posts because the rules were not followed. Many of you may not even see those posts due to how quickly the thread moves.
SHERIFF REFUSES TO RULE OUT SG'S BROTHER -IN-LAW, ACCORDING TO NYP.
Yesterday, when I posted the same message multiple times in a row, it came from a place of real frustration over the continued rule violations. That frustration got the better of me.

However, none of that is an excuse. I should have handled it differently, and I take responsibility for that.

I am working on finding a better way to make important moderator posts more visible and easier to follow so we can avoid this situation in the future.

And yes — I have been informed (by certain unnamed moderators who may or may not answer to “SillyBilly”) that if I throw another public hissy fit, I will be timed out. Fair is fair.

Thank you for your patience.
Tricia

You have to protect the website from being shut down. I was bemused and understood where you were coming from.

 

[Moonsie]

If you don’t like reading someone’s post or find them rude or whatever you can click on their profile picture and then hit ignore to ignore their posts.

I was reading this without my glasses and read “rude” as “nude.” Got a good chuckle

 

[Tortoise]

[...]

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to a friend’s house where she and her pals would tune into a church service online on the day she was reported missing, a source close to the family has since claimed. [...]

And, the pal called Annie – Nancy’s other daughter – when the Guthrie matriarch failed to show up.

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to pal’s house to watch church service on day she was reported missing: family source

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to a friend’s house where she and her pals would tune into a church service online on the day she was reported missing, a source close to the family has since&#8230…

nypost.com

 

[shonyakay]

Is there any chance whatsoever that Nancy had an onset episode of some sort and wandered off herself?

Jmo moo and speculating and me being inquisitive

I don't think so just because how the Sheriff talked about how the home was a crime scene and his comment that she was taken "against her will."