Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[justpeachy22]

It may just be me, but I see what happened to NG and the kidnapping/ransom notes as separate things. If someone close is responsible, they’d have to keep up the kidnapping charade, otherwise it would reveal what really happened. JMO.

Separate, yes I do think so. My guess is that the FBI has had a hunch all along that the ransoms were all fake, but in order to do a good job they have to assume the ransoms are real; they have to cover their bases, they have the family put out pleas, and give out specific instructions for what those pleas should say, and put up the billboards. because they're doing a good job. ok enough with my opinions today.

 

[Cipher Vale]

But to be clear, cops can't just go to a judge and say "we suspect them in a kidnapping and we want to search their house." They need specific evidence to convince a judge to issue the warrant and the warrant must be fairly specific regarding what they are looking for. Evidence collected outside the scope of the warrant can't be used at trial.

A consentual warrant is far more dangerous because they can seize anything they find even it was not something they were looking for. I personally would never consent to a search for any reason no matter how innocent I were.

That's very true.

Although the package to the DA would still need to provide some good articulated reasoning for why certain things were searched - that only comes up when evidence is found and often is justified with the "in my training and experience" line. You still have the rights when it comes to consensual searches and can actually define your consent to only those things you allow searched.

I'd never consent to a search either.

 

[annpats]

NG was comfortable in her home. Probably no criminal problems in the area. Cameras. Family nearby. Guesses are she was over-confident, never considered she could be harmed.

Well, surely that's the standard isn't it? That's how everyone's home should be!

 

[annpats]

I don't think NG ever left the house that Uber driver dropped her off at. I am beginning to think perhaps the blood droplets happened a diferent day and NG just didn't clean it up.

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

Nancy took an Uber to their home. Jmo.

 

[su5ie]

What did Nancy work as before she retired , was she still active in a role of administration in any community based programmes

Potential suspects for me would be , church goer or someone related to them , former Co worker , jilted former companion , stalker of SG or one of her siblings or nancy herself ( you don't have to be famous to have a stalker ) someone in the community with a mental illness or bearing a grudge

It's a wide net but to conceal a person tells me it's a person known . A murder that occurred during a burglary wouldn't really warrant a concealing of Nancy as the hassle of moving a body is hefty and wouldn't be in a burglars interests imo and would a person breaking and entering not have a gloves on and or a mask to conceal identify.

I think she will be eventually found within a 5km radius of her home

Don't statistics state that a person known to a victim will generally try to cover up their crime whereby a person with no connection ( beyond 6° ) will generally not conceal

We see in the idaho murders BK did not try conceal the bodies , ok maybe that's a bad example but you get my point .

Is there any chance whatsoever that Nancy had an onset episode of some sort and wandered off herself?

Jmo moo and speculating and me being inquisitive

 

[shonyakay]

That’s very different from reports that it was 11:00 am. Here’s a Feb 3 article:

My point being that the reporting on this detail is wildly inconsistent. ETA: I remain baffled at why. A phone call is a fixed point, and easily verified. If they can report the exact time the anonymous Uber driver dropped her off on Saturday, they can state the exact time this call was received. It’s probably the least complicated fact to verify in this case, and they can’t seem to manage to tell the truth about it.

I agree a phone call is a fixed point which means it may not have been a phone call but some other contact i.e. contact in-person for instance. Or since the church service was online the contact might have been via email.

Not having this information is frustrating and causing speculation like wild fire through social media.

 

[su5ie]

Just wanna say in response to the “who the hell would want that”… I have first hand experience with an individual who was around NG’s age that was sexually assaulted and ultimately died as a result for a gang initiation.

ETA: I should say I have first hand experience from the medical side, this was not an individual that I knew personally. Regardless, it was a very upsetting and tragic situation for all involved. The perp was very young too. Just awful all around.

Interesting, gang initiation???

Have not seen that come up but very plausible indeed

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I've been away from this page for 24 hours and I'm a bit confused.

I thought her son-in-law dropped her back home, not an Uber?

??

The Pima County Sheriff's Department has said that Nancy took an Uber to her daughter's house,

which is about 10 minutes from her own home in the Catalina Foothills, just north of Tucson, Arizona, for dinner and some

Mahjong on Saturday, Jan. 31.

At the end of the evening, police say, Nancy got driven home by her son-in-law [mod snip please use initials].


He said detectives have since interviewed the Uber driver, who the sheriff said is not under suspicion. The driver has been “very open.”

Authorities Search Annie Guthrie's Home for 3 Hours in Connection to Mother's Disappearance

Media in the area reported seeing investigators inside the home on Saturday night.

www.yahoo.com

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/05/us/timeline-nancy-guthrie-disappearance-missing-person

 

[shonyakay]

Wasn’t her pacemaker syncing until 2am?
That suggests to me she did return home.

Nancy could have been anywhere when she and her watch were synching she did not necessarily have to be at her home.

Both Nancy and her watch were syncing until they no longer were around 2 ish a.m.

All we know is that the watch was found at the home when LE was contacted we don't know how or where it separated from Nancy only when.

 

[tricia]

SG’s brother-in-law .... SG's brother is Aces ​

THANK YOU for the correction

 

[TIGER0822]

BIG APOLOGY PLEASE READ ​

I want to apologize for how I handled things yesterday.

There is a great deal that goes on behind the scenes that most of you never see. It can be incredibly frustrating to repeatedly post instructions, only to have them ignored, and then have to remove hundreds of posts because the rules were not followed. Many of you may not even see those posts due to how quickly the thread moves.
SHERIFF REFUSES TO RULE OUT SG'S BROTHER -IN-LAW, ACCORDING TO NYP.
Yesterday, when I posted the same message multiple times in a row, it came from a place of real frustration over the continued rule violations. That frustration got the better of me.

However, none of that is an excuse. I should have handled it differently, and I take responsibility for that.

I am working on finding a better way to make important moderator posts more visible and easier to follow so we can avoid this situation in the future.

And yes — I have been informed (by certain unnamed moderators who may or may not answer to “SillyBilly”) that if I throw another public hissy fit, I will be timed out. Fair is fair.

Thank you for your patience.
Tricia

You have to protect the website from being shut down. I was bemused and understood where you were coming from.

 

[Moonsie]

If you don’t like reading someone’s post or find them rude or whatever you can click on their profile picture and then hit ignore to ignore their posts.

I was reading this without my glasses and read “rude” as “nude.” Got a good chuckle

 

[Tortoise]

[...]

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to a friend’s house where she and her pals would tune into a church service online on the day she was reported missing, a source close to the family has since claimed. [...]

And, the pal called Annie – Nancy’s other daughter – when the Guthrie matriarch failed to show up.

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to pal’s house to watch church service on day she was reported missing: family source

Nancy Guthrie was supposed to go to a friend’s house where she and her pals would tune into a church service online on the day she was reported missing, a source close to the family has since&#8230…

nypost.com

 

[shonyakay]

Is there any chance whatsoever that Nancy had an onset episode of some sort and wandered off herself?

Jmo moo and speculating and me being inquisitive

I don't think so just because how the Sheriff talked about how the home was a crime scene and his comment that she was taken "against her will."

 

[Cipher Vale]

Yah. regarding the pacemaker + devices (phone/watch) apps, this is what I am stuck on regarding alternative to official timing...

There is data that pacemaker last synced with device at 2.28am when it's supposed Ms Guthrie was moved away from home.

So my understanding is the app on device that syncs with pacemaker also sends alarm or saves data if there is a catastrophic event, ie heart stops. If it was syncing with the device, how did app not pick up there was no heart activity

Following my search result: A pacemaker that is properly synced with a smartphone app can detect if the heart stops (cardiac arrest) or experiences other serious arrhythmia events. If a pacemaker detects a serious event, such as a heart stoppage, it typically records this in its memory and, if properly connected via Bluetooth to a smartphone app, transmits this data to a clinic.

So it's proven it synced in the early hours, does this not indicate that Ms Guthrie hadn't passed earlier on Sat night...
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But if she was deceased earlier Saturday night, there would be no pacemaker info to sync, right? Or the info would show she was deceased.

 

[shonyakay]

I respectfully disagree. If there are no suspects or persons of interest, does that not infer that the family have been cleared?

Not necessarily. It just means that there has been no suspects or persons of interest "identified." That could mean not yet "identified" to the public.

 

[CandyKiss]

8 days of Search & Rescue; and the majority of LE now believe the kidnapping was another hoax. What's left? A missing woman, possible foul play involved... much like so many other cases that do not get solved

 

[Cipher Vale]

I respectfully disagree. If there are no suspects or persons of interest, does that not infer that the family have been cleared? LE are not going to announce that the family have been cleared whilst the investigation is ongoing.

Respectfully, this thread has at times resembled Facebookland and has potentially ruined someone’s career. Websleuths has always upheld high standards for posting to separate it from other online groups.

Added to that is the fact the the children of the family could read here and see that their mother/father/aunt/uncle has been accused by the public (who know very little of the case) of murdering their grandmother. If they don’t, then there is a chance that their peers or the parents of their peers read here.

I do not see why the rules of posting are different for this thread. The family are victims and should be treated as such.

Respect.

Moo.

Everyone is a suspect until they are excluded. Just because LE says they don't have a suspect, doe not infer everyone is clear. It would be reasonable to infer that someone has not been excluded if LE is publicly announcing searches and media is showing photos being taken and the removal of items.

 

[TheDinks]

But if she was deceased earlier Saturday night, there would be no pacemaker info to sync, right? Or the info would show she was deceased.

Well I learned the pacemaker continues to function after death so am thinking it (as a tiny machine) still syncs but device oughta have data to say when flatline occurred. I mean, many are programmed to send that data to connected clinic. I don't honestly know enough facts to give more than presumption.