AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Would you pay ransom without "proof of life"?
If a family doesn’t have the money, they just can’t. The person who took her had to know the family could pay it. For that reason alone, if it was my mother and I had the money, i would pay it without proof of life. Money can be replaced. It’s always the right thing to try to get your relative back.
 
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And we know they removed the nest camera. Which appears to be what’s happening towards the end of those videos. The camera is disconnected at 1:47am. Which would mean the picture of him without the backpack, IMO, happened first. Which doesn’t really make sense for a variety of reasons but who knows
Wasn't there an earlier news clip with neighbors being interviewed and stating they were asked for.m camera footage closer to midnight? Is it possible that's why there is a discrepancy. The no gun footage from close to midnight, the other from 1:47?
 
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We don’t know that they didn’t. Why would they give that info to the public?
Did she have a garage camera? If she was dropped and went in through the garage, there may not be any footage to unearth.
 
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I wonder if they will get any images or video off the camera they found on the roof?
 
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And with all the prep/outfitting done, you would think it would have occurred to him to come prepared for the possibility of encountering a doorbell camera
That's what a guy on CNN said; usually they would bring a can of spray paint and paint over the camera
 
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Do we know for sure that they couldn't get that footage? IMO, there's a high likelihood they have other footage they haven't released.
According to CNN, Google assisted in getting the video: https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/10/tech/google-video-nancy-guthrie


Quote from article: "But Nest still saves around three hours of “event-based” video history for free before being deleted. That data lives in Google’s cloud and servers. Even if the data had been deleted from Google’s systems, it could still exist somewhere and be recoverable because even files slated for deletion can exist until they are overwritten by new data, said Nick Barreiro, an audio-video forensic analyst and the founder of Principle Forensics."
 
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I wonder if AG has a live in nanny/housekeeper/au pair. Perhaps with a criminal element boyfriend. It would explain a search of their home and law enforcement activity near her house.
I have been wondering who was at that dinner that night. Maybe more than just the family of 3. Neighbors? And was there talk of SG and NG living all alone in a big home that was too much for her to take care of??

Also wondering now if they have NG body. Found on her property, somehow, on the 2nd search, days ago. And all this other stuff has been to draw out the perp.
 
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What I don't understand is that even without a subscription to the ring camera the FBI was able to work with a tech company to unearth the video of the suspect at her door at 2 am. If they could do that why can't they unearth a video of when she was dropped off at her home around 9:45 pm Jan 31st.

LE probably has a lot more video/evidence than they are sharing with the public. At least I hope so.

JMO
 
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And with all the prep/outfitting done, you would think it would have occurred to him to come prepared for the possibility of encountering a doorbell camera
Exactly. I'd think all it would take is an inch of so of painter's tape. That could have even been stuck on his arm with one end sticking up so he could grab it, walk up onto the porch with his head down so unseen, and cover the lens. But he didn't do ANY of that. That's why I'm stuck on him NOT using a few flower stems to block a camera! I mean... c'mon.
 
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Wouldn't anyone these days expect to encounter some form (brand) of doorbell camera? Why would the perp grab flowers from the yard to cover it and at some point disable it? Seems like any perp would expect it to be there. I'm not saying everyone has one, but not much recon.
 
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Apologies if duplicate-

BREAKING: New video of Nancy Guthrie's abductor indicates an accomplice may be watching from the street, according to FBI veteran Michael Biasello, who has worked kidnapping and hostage cases. "After he pulls the foliage, he appears to make a small gesture to someone off camera," Biasello told me. "I believe two people were necessary to move and carry the victim." Biasello also believes the man seen in the video may be wearing a ballistic vest. He adds that now is the time for the FBI to double the $50,000 reward.
 
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Ummmm, the feet are small too, and the color of the pants and the way he wears them (might even be the same ones), the reflective clothing, and the way he walks and moves. WOW. I hope LE looked at this!!!!
I know people keep speculating about the family, but they've come out saying they do not recognize this person. All of these things seem specific enough that they would recognize them. I know if I saw my sister, BIL, or husband, I would recognize them immediately in those photos.
 
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And with all the prep/outfitting done, you would think it would have occurred to him to come prepared for the possibility of encountering a doorbell camera
Yeah, this.

As many, including ex LE commentators have said his actions are "off". Even the porch pirates stealing packages show up on Ring community vids with hoodies pulled over and looking down assuming or seeing cams.

He had a full backpack and other nonsense but not spray paint or even a powerful IR emitter off Amazon would have flooded that camera view without tipping off anyone before it could record.

The wannabe get up (with plenty of flaws; reflectors, gloves obstructively thick), the casually picking up of the latanas flowers, it's just weird. And I think the guy will turn out to be, well, weird.
 

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