AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I think SWAT was brought in to apprehend suspect because they didn't know what they were dealing with. But once the guy got detained they transported him back to Tucson and left deputies and FBI to search the property. JMO
I read post earlier that they thought he WAS at the house to apprehend but had left and had to be stopped enroute to somewhere
 
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Can someone confirm that LE doesn't have to have a search warrant if they think someone's life is in imminent danger?

The exigent circumstances doctrine. But I'd be shocked if LE didn't arrive with a warrant here specifically.
 
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Patel said there are persons of interest so perhaps this guy is one piece of the puzzle and he will lead to others.
 
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The map upthread reminded me, there is a lake about 35 minutes away from Rio Rico. Patagonia lake Not trying to be political but show me your warrant is very much in the forefront of a lot of us in the SW right now.
 
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Yes and No. They can search, but imagine if they found something. She could claim all sorts of things and possibly get evidence thrown out.

Search warrants are supposed to be specific, not fishing expeditions.
They have a search warrant. Many sources posted upthread. IMO
 
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A DoorDash driver living at the border wouldn't be my first guess for the perp. Not high hopes here.
 
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Not saying a name, but think people might have it wrong as we have a Sr, and Jr with the same name. Think younger.

Can use initials for the detained person.
 
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I agree this has all gotten very sad on multiple levels. The worst being that NG has not been found. I agree it's time to log off for a bit...

I am confused as to why Briana Whitney is reporting SWAT is back in Tucson if they're still searching the home in Rio Rico, but maybe it's a different group.

EDIT: Watching the MIL video again, not sure what to think. She's totally fine giving out info about her SIL (maybe she think's he's innocent, maybe she never liked him...) but she also doesn't know who NG is. Really?
I think she's naive. Not everyone watches the news 24/7........
 
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I've found a 36 year old, same exact name, previous address right where police are right now. I'm inclined to think this is the bitcoin ransom guy, if police taking all his electronics.
Phones. She said they took their phones
 
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I'm just not loving this being the guy. Apparently this was based on a "tip," and the interview with his mother-in-law did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

We've seen this in a couple recent cases, where the Feds jump the gun. More of the same I fear.
Richard Jewel classic example
 
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Am I being naive in thinking a delivery guy who is trying to make some money to move his family out of his MIL's house would not have the sophistication nor be tech savvy enough to set up a secret untraceable Bitcoin account? Or is it something you can easily learn?
Then again, he could be part of a group, and this guy's job was only to kidnap an elderly lady.

For fun, I googled how hard this would be to do. IMHO, anyone could do it --- not all would be successful but there are step by step directions online on how to do this, should someone want to.
 
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I'm just not loving this being the guy. Apparently this was based on a "tip," and the interview with his mother-in-law did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

We've seen this in a couple recent cases, where the Feds jump the gun. More of the same I fear.

Why not? He travels a lot?
 
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Can’t afford “fruit of the poisonous tree” to blow up a case
Yes! The stakes are so high here that I can literally feel anxiety and I'm certain they are triple checking they dot all is and cross ts.
 
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I'm just not loving this being the guy. Apparently this was based on a "tip," and the interview with his mother-in-law did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

We've seen this in a couple recent cases, where the Feds jump the gun. More of the same I fear.
I would like to see an accurate pic of him. Not sure if we have an accurate likeness of him posted. But he sounds low income, possible recent incarceration from what has been posted here. He regularly travels to Tucson... with the right connections, he may be a guy to to the task. MOO
 
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I thought the MIL said in the interview I watched, that she gave them permission to search whatever they wanted, or something to that effect. Whether a warrant was obtained or not, wouldn't her permission grant them legal access?
Yes, she seemed to contradict herself. She did say that, but she also said she arrived and LE had already broken down her door, handcuffed her son etc. She was interviewed by diff folks CNN and BE. When she said "go ahead search" I think she was being honest but was reciting conversation with LE and cooperating while they had already started searching.
 
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I think she's naive. Not everyone watches the news 24/7........
Likely she has enough problems in her daily life not to pay attention to other people’s
 
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I'm just not loving this being the guy. Apparently this was based on a "tip," and the interview with his mother-in-law did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

We've seen this in a couple recent cases, where the Feds jump the gun. More of the same I fear.
SAME!!
 

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