AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Has anyone in here who was set on a theory changed their opinion on this case because of these new developments i.e. the man captured at Nancy's door?

I've been on the fence because there were pros and cons for either scenario i.e. family did it - stranger did it but now I just don't see a valid reason that family was involved - at least at this point.

That man does not look anything like TC to me.
I've never thought the family was involved. Absolutely not. But seeing the perp come with a fully loaded backpack has changed my mind from a burglary to something else. I was convinced the perp and ransomer were 2 different people, now I don't know.

One thing for sure, a DoorDash driver living at the border doesn't fit and I'm surprised LE made such a dog and pony show about it.
 
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Has anyone in here who was set on a theory changed their opinion on this case because of these new developments i.e. the man captured at Nancy's door?

I've been on the fence because there were pros and cons for either scenario i.e. family did it - stranger did it but now I just don't see a valid reason that family was involved - at least at this point.

That man does not look anything like TC to me.
Not so much the latest developments, but until the information about the destruction of the cameras, I was leaning towards this being a medical event and she just hadn't been found yet.

I'm still not convinced the kidnapper and the ransom person are the same, but I'm not seeing everything they're seeing. We're only getting a fraction of a fraction of the picture.

MOO
 
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This is utterly bizarre. Pretty much every component of this case to date. Just bonkers.

JMO.
Bonkers afterr NG was dropped off at Tucson daughter and SIL house.
 
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That is insane. I am at a loss.
In the interview C says they asked him questions. He says “they asked me where I was”. Nerves probably made him misspeak
 
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It's been difficult to sleep throughout this case for me. Nancy reminds me of my mom who passed away in 2024. The doorbell footage really is eerie and makes me feel even more hurt for the G family
Sorry about your Mom passing away. I don't think NG ever saw the creepo who disabled front door nest ring doorbell. I cannot explain the blood droplets but I truly believe NG never came home from dinner and game night.
 
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My feeling is that they have nothing and are clutching at straws, which explains jumping on an innocent man after allegedly receiving a tip off. (Having said that, I blame the reporters for doxxing this man and his family - really low to interview the mother in law or whoever she was during such a vulnerable and chaotic moment.)

I am starting to wonder if she was dropped home at all - has this fiasco been a coverup? Are we victim to staging?

At this point, it has all been so insane that maybe that isn’t a crazy theory!
 
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In the interview C says they asked him questions. He says “they asked me where I was”.
C sounds suspicious in alot of areas but not in regards to taking NG against her will from her home.
 
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And this Carlos POI...if it's him putting bushes in front camera...I think it was an assignment to disable camera footage. I believe based on all reported to media that a tragic incident happened to NG which NG was with intimate family members.


That man has been released. Catch up!
 
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Sorry about your Mom passing away. I don't think NG ever saw the creepo who disabled front door nest ring doorbell. I cannot explain the blood droplets but I truly believe NG never came home from dinner and game night.
Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

 
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They didn't ask him questions? What on earth
 
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My feeling is that they have nothing and are clutching at straws, which explains jumping on an innocent man after allegedly receiving a tip off. (Having said that, I blame the reporters for doxxing this man and his family - really low to interview the mother in law or whoever she was during such a vulnerable and chaotic moment.)

I am starting to wonder if she was dropped home at all - has this fiasco been a coverup? Are we victim to staging?

At this point, it has all been so insane that maybe that isn’t a crazy theory!
I don't think the reporters should have been all up in her business clearly taking advantage like that.

But at least we the public got to see yet again how LE swoops in and disrupts and traumatizes people's lives, and destroys property.
 
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My feeling is that they have nothing and are clutching at straws, which explains jumping on an innocent man after allegedly receiving a tip off. (Having said that, I blame the reporters for doxxing this man and his family - really low to interview the mother in law or whoever she was during such a vulnerable and chaotic moment.)

I am starting to wonder if she was dropped home at all - has this fiasco been a coverup? Are we victim to staging?

At this point, it has all been so insane that maybe that isn’t a crazy theory!
I don't believe she was dropped off at home 1/31/26. Like if she was she would have had to sprint to get into house in 2 mins. I believe she never came home and all the weirdo activity beginning at 9:45pm and ending at like 2:30am was cover up to conceal NG being injured or killed away from home around 1/31/26 late night
 
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She wasn’t dropped home at all and the video footage/ransom is staging. And yes, it’s someone she knows.

Thoughts?
 
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So the POI got released? So like exactly like the Brown Shooting a few months ago where they did a raid at a hotel, detained someone for a few hours, and then released them. Not a great look
 
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I wonder when that card was left in the timeline, must be after Nancy went missing as she would have seen it otherwise?
Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of that card.
I wonder if it’s authentic? And what prompted it!!

I don’t know about Nancy but I can go days without seeing my front door. And it sounds as though she were in the habit of using the garage door.
 
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I don't believe she was dropped off at home 1/31/26. Like if she was she would have had to sprint to get into house in 2 mins. I believe she never came home and all the weirdo activity beginning at 9:45pm and ending at like 2:30am was cover up to conceal NG being injured or killed away from home around 1/31/26 late night
Agreed
 
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Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.



It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...of-the-search/ar-AA1VAZgt?ocid=BingNewsSe rp

Did they actually say it disconnected or that it couldnt get a signal back? Someone said there own pacemaker sends 1 signal between 2-4am if they are not near the phone then it will not receive it.
 
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Cliff's from Carlos interview -

They detained him but didn't ask him a single question.
They searched/processed his car and his home.
They damaged some things (front door/garage door mentioned).
He was forthcoming until someone in the home interjected and pulled him inside just after a question from a reporter in Spanish.

JMO.
He misspeaks. At 1:06 of the interview he describes some of the questions they asked him.
 

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