AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[avalonisland]

The smell of that would be more than enough for someone to notice.

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

 

[simlyme]

On this post it says, the guy was released and they gave him his car back.

@touchlove JLR isn't allowed here ,

 

[Voidz]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

 

[slueth1111]

It's always felt to me that he wasn't using the flowers to cover the doorbell cam because he didn't get them before approaching, and with all in that backpack he could have brought something that actually worked to cover it, like painter's tape. Plus, you have to admit some flower stems is NOT a very good camera block.

With all that said... it just feels to me like he was holding them out for the camera to capture them. Why? Absolutely NO clue. Only he knows why he did that. But, it feels to me like there was a purpose (other than trying to block the lens).

Maybe part of his communication to the family, that only he'd know, is "I held out flowers to the camera". That way LE knew they had the right guy that was communicating thru the ransom letters. It took a while before those images were released so that very well could be what the purpose of holding them up would be.

JMO!!!

I think he couldn't get a grip of the camera with the gloves. I think of me trying to do stuff with gloves on. He used the flowers to grab the camera. IMO

 

[avalonisland]

But he’d been driving the van for the first week, immediately after she disappeared. That doesn’t make any sense to me. His van is also not white, according to the BE interview.

Carlos has an alibi. He was at Mother in law's home Friday night after work, 1/30/26, to Monday morning, 2/2/26 which is like 60 miles or so from NG house. Who can provide alibi's of NG family that was with her 1/31/26 other than the family members. Carlos has someone other than himself to prove he was not in NG area during her disappearance.

 

[Dreamcherry]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

No, it was something like 7 minutes iirc?

 

[TheDinks]

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

dbm

getting frustrated with inane comments, sorry people

 

[slueth1111]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

It was stated in time line it was only a few minutes from arriving there

 

[luc1fer12]

C sounds suspicious in alot of areas but not in regards to taking NG against her will from her home.

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

 

[outback]

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

And...he wouldn't find that suspicious??

Why not tell the police? Especially considering the story is huge and he knows a person is missing or possibly dead?

Jmo

 

[avalonisland]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

Yes, around 11:10am NG church buddies contacted Tucson daughter who lived 10 mins from NG house and waited for like an hour to report NG missing.

 

[sdmike1974]

This intruder's unhurried movements has me concerned that he is working in concert with other(s) and his sole purpose is to remove NG who is bound and gagged.

Or worse. Perish the thought.

Could play a role in why he made such an effort to cover (with plants) or actually remove the doorbell camera which would likely have recorded NG being carried thru that door to the street or driveway.

Edit-to-add
I just noticed others have posted similar speculation.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

People who are used to getting hassled?

 

[touchlove]

@touchlove JLR isn't allowed here ,

Im sorry, I didn’t know he wasn’t allowed. The last time I was on this site, it was over 11 years ago. Today’s the first day, that I have been back on this site, so I wasn’t aware. Thanks for your understanding. I won’t post any more stuff from him.

 

[Voidz]

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

MSN

I am genuinely curious now this proves she made it home? Can it not be disconnected remotely?

 

[Sharonuk]

Have they said if the uber driver had NG on video saturday night? Or if she was in good spirits on the way to AG house?

 

[rebel123]

I don't believe Nancy is that far away from her home. She is elderly, has health issues, so I think that may have been a consideration for the person who has taken her. I think she's being held 'out of sight', so close by, but in a 'secluded area'. Traffic is none existence.

 

[avalonisland]

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

C and "wife" and kid were working when pulled over....doing a Doordash delivery assignment. Carlos seems to be treated like a fall guy but it will get to the actual ones involved in hurting and abducting and maybe killing NG, but it does not seem to be Carlos. Maybe Carlos did some security camera disable stuff but no way hurt NG

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

MSN

I think this probably means she was at home, yes but not necessarily- the phone may have been elsewhere with Nancy and placed back at the home around/after its last connection. Unlikely though. I’m sure LE must have been able to trace the phone’s movements over the course of the evening.

 

[avalonisland]

Have they said if the uber driver had NG on video saturday night? Or if she was in good spirits on the way to AG house?

No word on Uber driver. I still think its strange AG would not pick up NG for a dinner which was all of 10 min drive. Just bizarre