AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bluewing3102]

If it was an outer glove it could have both his and NG's DNA. He had a bite light in his mouth so when he removed it he would transfer saliva to the glove.

If this glove is in fact from the abduction would you really be able to extract actionable DNA from a black glove that has been sitting under the desert sun for over 10 days?

 

[An Interloper]

The MIL said on camera that she didn’t think it was him and didn’t look like him at all.

Reportedly, MIL said he did "fedex or something" for work. Likely pinged as being in the area delivering when LEO reviewed cell data. A tip and a hit on cell/other data = a visit.

 

[stmichael]

You responded to me and my previous comments. I stand by my words. Just because a door has burgler bars doesn't mean that it is bolted shut. They open and shut. How did he get in the house? In the SW, burgler bars are also considered decorative. So, it wasn't like she was living in a fortress.

Agreed. That's a welded steel residential "security door". It has it's own bolt set (I own a very similar one on one of my houses). With it's own keyed deadbolt it can be a hassle (extra set of keys) so like a lot of families the garage (easy fob or keypad entry) might have been the primary way to come and go. You are quite right that she may have kept it unbolted if she found it inconvenient, just like some people who have an alarm in a "good area" don't always arm it.

Those security doors are secured with their own metal frame over the framing of the door, usually with propriety lag bolts (so you need a special tool not a common ratchet set) that go at least 3 inches into the wood framing around the regular door. You can winch or pry bar them open but it takes a lot of efforts/leverage but they won't be kicked open or breached by pulling. In the academy they teach door breaching for these kind of doors which are common on trap houses/high crime areas. Anyway the lockset and frame was intact so they did not breach the front security door --it was either unlocked or it was unlocked from the inside if anyone went through it. If she had a single cylinder deadbolt then it could have been opened from the inside (if they gained entry otherwise) I use double cylinder deadbolts (keyed on both sides) for many of my deadbolts --the worst thing you see in residential applications is a single cylinder deadbolt and a window right next to--2 seconds smashing window w/ a rock/branch and flipping the deadbolt open and you're in.

 

[Hans Olo]

Where was it said AG borrowed NG's car?

It wasn’t

 

[cherryleaf]

Agreed I really think LE is grasping at straws and has no clue where NG could be located. Hence why they need to find the abductor and be able to either retrace their steps or get a confession. JMO

I truly think it’s something the public should pay attention to. This is such a high profile missing persons I can see the NEED for closure. Forced confessions are real

 

[nightowl2728]

Yes- i've said very early on that PCSD calling off search efforts after a day was a bad idea. Even if they thought a crime was committed from the get-go NG could've been abandoned somewhere quickly out in the desert.

I understand LE resources are limited and they probably started focusing on the ransom, but there are plenty of people who'd be willing to help conduct grid searches. If NG is somewhere out in the desert- 10 days later isnt a good outlook.

JMO

Completely agree! They clearly have no idea where she is... why not try the simplest grid searches ANYWHERE they reasonably suspect she could be. Main priority.

The only thing I can think of otherwise is that they DO have proof of life and that's been ongoing. But I am highly skeptical that's the case (despite SG's video Monday... now two days ago).

 

[Friday Fan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021696791272456224

That looks like it was tossed no more than a few hours ago! I'm sorry....A glove that has been out for 10 days won't look like that!

Heck it's still in the shape of the hand it was on!

Maybe the desert preserves things like that, but they also have dirt and pollen in the desert. They also have gravity. As in: A glove will lose the shape of the hand it was in fairly quickly after it is removed.

 

[Winter67]

Most likely already brought up. But I put the picture up of the door and watched the video several times. Looks like he definitely pushed the doorbell three times while covering the camera with his glove. Why ring the bell if it was planned. I've all along thought the BIL but he would have a key I am sure. Such a puzzling case.

 

[Czechgirl]

If you could ask LE/FBI any question about this case and receive an answer,
What would you ask?
I'd like to know what the ransom note said or what the house looked like inside.

 

[dogmom805]

Interesting. I wonder if someone actually delivered something large to the house recently and even assembled it. Like furniture. They may have seen photos of Nancy with Savannah. Maybe recognized SG and asked NG about it who proudly told him she is her mom. That may have given the delivery guy ideas for a kidnapping for ransom. JMO.

Maybe he does not work or deliver alone.

 

[PacoElFlaco]

Is it true that the man apprehended and released in Rio Rancho last night was only of interest because a tip stated that his eyes matched the suspect in the porch video? To me, that would indicate that law enforcement has absolutely nothing at all to go on in this case. It seems like a very desperate "Hail Mary" play to carry out such a large operation on such flimsy "evidence".

 

[An Interloper]

IMO he was using the plants as a grip to get the nest Camera off. He was wearing stupidly bulky gloves so looks to me that he couldn't get a grip the first time. Aren't they sticky too?

I always reach for flowers when I can't get a grip. Seriously though, black latex/nitrile gloves are pretty grippy - even if worn over another pair. Hard for me to understand it.

Hope they get him alive so we can find out.

 

[nightowl2728]

Most likely already brought up. But I put the picture up of the door and watched the video several times. Looks like he definitely pushed the doorbell three times while covering the camera with his glove. Why ring the bell if it was planned.

Sorry I haven't seen this reported or said before. Can you break it down a bit more to explain/post screenshots if possible? That seems relevant if true.

 

[Emerald1328]

They did not take 3 days. The first ransom note came on Monday, the day after the crime.

Source: What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

And we don’t know that other news stations/outlets didn’t get one on Sunday but just didn’t go blabbing to the public about it like the other 3.

 

[Razz]

I was on X & typed in AGC's name & someone posted a pic of DE & WOW

Who is DE? Wracking my brain on this one.

 

[SaraSmile]

I'm a 60+ woman living alone in an ultra-safe, bland community. But even if someone said they were LE I would never open the door.

I'd speak to them out the window and call 911 and ask for verification that authentic LE - be it local cops, state, fed, whatever - were on my doorstep. The police station is a mile away and anyone pounding on my door can wait until a squad car arrives to back me up.

I would not open at 2am to a recognized voice unless I could see them, see their vehicle and see that they were unaccompanied. Otherwise, calling 911. Even threat of a gas leak, I'd probably just open a couple of windows till the responders arrived.

And I am lax, hardly paranoid, about security. But there are too many good ruses out there.

As an aside, beware of kittens meowing. Pretending to be an abandoned, scared kitten is one of the eerier ruses used to lure people out of their homes.

Interesting about the kittens, what a ruse! Kind heart opens door to look for kittens…

Reminds me of the puppy ruse, with child abduction, human trafficking, grooming…

People let down their guard….

 

[Navillus923]

Keep seeing the misinformation that the family waited one hour to call 911.

This is not true.

They called 911 almost as soon as they arrived

[The source of this misinformation was the sheriff in the first press conference but it has now been debunked]

Source: ABC7 news official police timeline (Feb 6)

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New York Times (10 Feb) A Timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s Disappearance

"When Ms. Guthrie did not arrive at a friend’s house to watch a live-streamed church service on Sunday, the friend notified Ms Guthrie’s family. Family members went to her house just before noon to check on her, discovered she was missing and called 911."

Thank you. I can't believe people are still talking/questioning it that
they waited an hour to call

. I wish there was a way to force people to read confirmed timelines and then continue on in the forums.

 

[Winter67]

Sorry I haven't seen this reported or said before. Can you break it down a bit more to explain/post screenshots if possible? That seems relevant if true.

Bring up a picture of the front door. The door bell is to the right. Watch the video at the same time and he is pushing in to something right where the doorbell is located. The camera is a little above and he is covering that with his glove.

 

[PCHS]

Is it true that the man apprehended and released in Rio Rancho last night was only of interest because a tip stated that his eyes matched the suspect in the porch video? To me, that would indicate that law enforcement has absolutely nothing at all to go on in this case. It seems like a very desperate "Hail Mary" play to carry out such a large operation on such flimsy "evidence".

That is what was reported/he said...bottom line is regardless if that is it or something else..it appears like this is very disorganized.

 

[Chimera]

What does his MIL need to apologize for? She defended him persistently over and over on national TV to anyone who would listen that he had nothing to do with this and he was at home when Nancy was reported missing.

Oh, I thought it was stated she was the one to contact LE to say that his eyes resembled the security footage ?
Still it appears that LE were just following up on the tip.
It'd seem that they had more to go on than that he may have resembled the person on the sec. cam.
Jmo.