AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Just some random thoughts:
  • Was the person smart enough to not bring his cell phone?
  • Are there any LPRs in the area — on a likely exit route? Or was the person smart enough to not use a vehicle with correct plates? Maybe had stolen plates, or a temporary tag, or removed/covered the plates?
  • Is there not a single camera in the neighborhood or at a business that caught even a bad image of a vehicle?
  • The untraceable (so far) messages to the media outlets and the bitcoin account suggest some level of sophistication. Yet you don’t bring something to obscure the doorbell camera? Of course, this assumes the messages and bitcoin account are actually connected to the perpetrator, rather than an opportunist.
  • There was a search warrant for the residence in Rio Rico, which requires LE to put forth some facts or evidence in an affidavit and present it to a judge. They would need more than similar eyebrows. LE must have had some type of information that made the gentleman who was detained last night viable. I’m convinced that gentleman is a dead-end lead, but to get the search warrant, I wonder if LE had some type of information that put him (and perhaps many others) in a pool of potentially viable leads. In other words, does LE have at least some dataset of digital evidence, from which they can include or eliminate individuals as possible persons of interest?
  • Hopefully there’s a reporter on the ground who is working to dig up the affidavit for that search warrant. It will likely hold valuable information.
Re Vehicle
I wondered, too, that we have not heard of a vehicle picked up on nearby cameras. I would think at that late night hour, a vehicle would be seen on camera, reported to the public to look for it.

JMO
 
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Can someone clarify why the Amazon package is still sitting there unopened? I would think it would be important to confirm whether it contains anything relevant to the case. With all the letters and ransom notes they are reporting showing up after the night NG went missing, please help a gal understand why they wouldn’t look in it? And take it away?
 
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Hopefully, they geofenced any cell numbers that pop up in that location at that specific time and trace them back to burner purchases at certain stores. Then maybe they can get some video on a burner purchase.

I don’t have a lot of burner experience but I would believe the number would connect to a carrier and they would be able to trace where it was purchased. I can’t imagine they would have their personal phone on them but who knows. He did use foliage on the camera.
 
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If this were an inside job involving family, and the ransom is an unrelated opportunist, why take her off the property? Could take years to have someone declared dead and get inheritance if that’s motive. If the ransom is related why are they still holding out when the family said they would pay? Nothing makes sense… MOO
So much about this case is confusing. Why would you take a woman from her home to kill her? If it simply to kill her, why not there at the house?
 
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We shouldn't really even know about a random glove they found, before any examination or testing. Now it's a whole thing and it shouldn't be, if you ask me. There is going to be tons of random crap outside on the side of the roads. I'm not saying they won't find anything. But this little glove on the side of a road should not be national news. That's a lot of pressure for a piece of trash.
Reminds me of the black glasses they found in the Sebastian Rogers case. Much ado about nothing. smh (JMO, of course)
 
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Did anyone else notice that in the snapshots of the suspect, one of them he does not have the gun and backpack on him. Are there 2 separate people wearing the same clothing? Or is that a photo of him captured after committing the crime..? Walking back to the house after using the gun and items in the backpack, to remove the camera?
I think it's from a different time period. The FBI said it was of "the individual." So it must have been before and not after, because he disabled the camera before the crime.
 
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Re Vehicle
I wondered, too, that we have not heard of a vehicle picked up on nearby cameras. I would think at that late night hour, a vehicle would be seen on camera, reported to the public to look for it.

JMO
Apparently it is too dark to see anything other than what is in the sky.
 
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Yeah, that used to happen when I lived in a condo complex: Gloves, jackets, etc would be left near the group mailboxes so people could see they had lost them.

I'd say it belongs to someone from the press.
I hope it wasn’t Brian Entin who dropped them. He had a whole box of them he was showing his viewers yesterday and I immediately thought “Don’t lose track of those!” 🫣😆
 
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Another great interview by Brian Entin. This former homicide detective described Sheriff Nanos has having an "exorbitant ego". He is very critical of Nanos past and present handling of this case (and his former cases).
IMO, LE doesn’t continue returning to a location over and over without cause and a working theory. At this point, LE has been at AG’s house as much as NG’s. And they aren’t leaving empty handed.
 
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Seeing as after over a week there has been no apprehension of any suspect except an unconnected man who someone said had similar eyes to the porch man, I guess it is safe to assume family members or their associates are unlikely to be involved. I mean, if they are going after some random guy... It's obvious they really have no idea who did this.
 
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Apparently it is too dark to see anything other than what is in the sky.
Do you have a source?

I would have thought most modern cameras would have night-vision enabled.
 
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So much about this case is confusing. Why would you take a woman from her home to kill her? If it simply to kill her, why not there at the house?
No body no evidence no cause of death able to be determined no crime possibly?
 
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So much about this case is confusing. Why would you take a woman from her home to kill her? If it simply to kill her, why not there at the house?
Exactly.
 
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How long would that take realistically?
It's the highest priority. It is touch DNA though, so they wouldn't be able to use Rapid DNA technology on it. From what I can gather, it would take 1-3 days, with my guess being the lower end of that.
 
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I just had an interesting thought. Hoax or not, I would very much like to imagine the perp freaking out all day, wondering who on earth was going to turn him in for 1 bitcoin. :eek:😂
 
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IMO, LE doesn’t continue returning to a location over and over without cause and a working theory. At this point, LE has been at AG’s house as much as NG’s. And they aren’t leaving empty handed.
Unless they are trying to find something to substantiate their only theory based on last known to see her alive + family, and they can't find it but keep trying b/c they don't know what other direction to go in.
 
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So much about this case is confusing. Why would you take a woman from her home to kill her? If it simply to kill her, why not there at the house?
It brings me back to what I speculated at the beginning: you'd remove a body if you felt shame.

But I'm still thinking she might have left home walking. If so, I have no idea why someone would take her except ransom, and I am thinking the ransom notes are a hoax by an opportunist.

And then my head goes in circles.

jmo
 
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It's the highest priority. It is touch DNA though, so they wouldn't be able to use Rapid DNA technology on it. From what I can gather, it would take 1-3 days, with my guess being the lower end of that.
Thank you!
 

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