AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Monepone]

I'd like to know about that package? It wasn't there when the pics of this guy was at the door that I saw. IMO

It wasn't there at the night of the kidnapping but why it wasn't collected is beyond me. It could be a regular order or it could have something from the kidnapper.

 

[NewYork625]

Trust me it's there . The 27 second one . Walks up, puts hand to camera , walks back to porch entrance , takes a step to the right, picks up rope. Starts walking back to door

I believe that's the video where he walks back to the walkway to pull out some lantana (flowering plant) branches and returns to try to obscure the camera with them.

 

[loves2readhistory]

Did anyone else notice that in the snapshots of the suspect, one of them he does not have the gun and backpack on him. Are there 2 separate people wearing the same clothing? Or is that a photo of him captured after committing the crime..? Walking back to the house after using the gun and items in the backpack, to remove the camera?

That picture supposedly said ALTERED when posted so the LE digitally removed backback for more normal view of body/clothing.
It is b-w image so cant really tell colors of things

 

[Lebowski]

If the person has ever been arrested and is in the system, not that long. But if they have to use genealogy DNA, that could take a while to come up with possible relatives.

jinx

 

[danablue1]

How about if someone was simply going to commit a robbery and steal something of value a small safe or jewelry. They knew where a hidden key was and walked into the house knowing exactly whete it was kept. NG woke up.to go to the bathroom or something and saw him. I don't have a source for this so will have to say it's my opinion. The cellphone was on.the kitchen counter and she may have taken her hearing aid out so didn't hear any nest notifications or noise outside her door. The above it only my opinion.

 

[txsleuth70]

Trust me it's there . The 27 second one . Walks up, puts hand to camera , walks back to porch entrance , takes a step to the right, picks up rope. Starts walking back to door

That's not rope. He rips the plant apart.

 

[MassGuy]

if the perp's in codis they could then find him within hours. but if they have to resort to FGG, that takes months in the best cases.

It took about 3 weeks in the Kohberger case, but they did it because they knew it had to belong to the perpetrator. Here they've got a pair of gloves, which could have a bunch of innocent explanations.

Unless they have more information, I can't see them doing that.

But who knows, they may have found something in the house (blood, touch DNA on a particular relevant object).

 

[PacoElFlaco]

No crime except for the gun on the camera.

Arizona law allows for the open carry of firearms without a permit. So not even that.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

Blu shirt? I missed that

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021330343056507029

Blue shirt in this video.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Apparently it is too dark to see anything other than what is in the sky.

Some nest or ring cams in NG's neighborhood may not have brush and trees between the front door and the street, and LE has likely accessed those nest or ring cams. IMO, many of the houses are set back from the street with cactus, brush and mesquite trees in front of the house so the cams don't necessarily see street traffic. MOO

 

[Der Detektiv]

I'd like to know about that package? It wasn't there when the pics of this guy was at the door that I saw. IMO

I think there are quite a few pranksters sending deliveries to Nancy’s door. Yesterday it was Domino’s pizza, today it’s an Amazon parcel.

 

[Monepone]

I don't think anyone has talked about the rope the criminal picks up ,in the video. Bends down on right side of entrance , can plainly see it's a rope.Or has that been mentioned ?

Those are flower vines he pulled from the flower bed to cover the camera.

 

[stmichael]

SBMFF

I do not think he ever used the gun at Nancy’s (unless he pistol whipped her in the face to cause nose bleed or something).

If she had been shot, there would have been far more blood, and doorstep/front walk would have looked much different.

My opinion and conjecture only.

There was no firearm discharged as far as we know and investigators would know this definitely. He would not be able to clean up a gunshot wound or even bullet holes/GSR/evidence in that time.

One of my theories in the amateurish/rag-tag presentation of the person on the Nest cam footage is that it was not a live firearm but perhaps a replica/airsoft he had in that mis-matched holster that was used for intimidation/coercion of an 84-year-old woman. Had he had to actually use the sidearm he would have trouble even getting his finger inside the trigger guard with those awkward gloves.

 

[connie9030]

Do you have a source?

I would have thought most modern cameras would have night-vision enabled.

Some high-end cameras offer "color night vision," but this usually requires some ambient light.Most houses sit too far off the road to capture anything. As far as a source about the lighting conditions in the neighborhood, here is one:

NG's Catalina Foothills neighborhood near Tucson is described by residents as "pitch black" and incredibly dark at night, with minimal lighting due to local, down-facing light pollution ordinances. The remote, spread-out area features dense desert scrub, long driveways, and no streetlights, hindering surveillance, say USA Today and BBC News.

 

[Ellis' Mom]

agree to disagree. LE never cordoned off the 'crime scene' on the front walk from day one. nor will they confirm which door(s) were entered or exited, plus they walked back the 'forced entry' comments.

has anyone found a link to confirm/deny/report that AG/SIL's car was towed/evidenced? pure question. they towed NG's car, you'd think they towed the last car in which she was allegedly a passenger...

Okay, but I'm not sure what I said that you're disagreeing with. I've only stated that I don't believe the FBI et. al. created the video "yesterday" to mess with the perps (though they probably messing with them in other ways) because:
-The blood was not there in the videos released yesterday.
-The doorbell was missing and blood was there late morning on February 1st (and is probably still there).

IMHO--releasing the crime scene after one day was CRAZY.
No one has confirmed which door(s) were entered/exited or if there was forced entry.
We have very little factual evidence from LE.

AG/SILs car was towed per AB via LE (I don't trust AB...but second link confirms WS mods consider this verified):

Nancy Guthrie update: Sheriff responds after Annie Guthrie car sparks rumor

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard practices as officials continue investigating Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

www.newsweek.com

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AZ Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'

Feb 4, 2026

BREAKING NEWS....TRYING TO VERIFY NOW!!!! Will check back in a few minutes!

Notes from the video (all of this info comes from Banfield’s unnamed LE source):

- The cameras were Nest cameras and were smashed

- <modsnip: Removed reference to information that has NOT been confirmed by LE> — police have towed the car belonging AG and impounded it as evidence

- Blood was found inside

- Her Apple Watch was left in the home

- The back door of the home was left wide open

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[GMG1999]

It is either something happened to her unexpectedly or the kidnappers are afraid they will be busted if they try to send proof of life. Digital forensics is very sophisticated these days especially when FBI is involved.

But wouldn't they be busted if the ransom was paid and then they accessed it?

 

[loves2readhistory]

Can someone clarify why the Amazon package is still sitting there unopened? I would think it would be important to confirm whether it contains anything relevant to the case. With all the letters and ransom notes they are reporting showing up after the night NG went missing, please help a gal understand why they wouldn’t look in it? And take it away?

Why was a reporter allowed up there in first place. They stopped having guards on site—need them to patrol miles of roadside for ‘clues’.
This is a f’d investigation

 

[nycpizzaparty]

It took about 3 weeks in the Kohberger case, but they did it because they knew it had to belong to the perpetrator. Here they've got a pair of gloves, which could have a bunch of innocent explanations.

Unless they have more information, I can't see them doing that.

But who knows, they may have found something in the house (blood, touch DNA on a particular relevant object).

I think if the gloves have NG's DNA, then if there is DNA from second person on the glove too - they pursue that as fast as possible.

 

[Lebowski]

It took about 3 weeks in the Kohberger case, but they did it because they knew it had to belong to the perpetrator. Here they've got a pair of gloves, which could have a bunch of innocent explanations.

Unless they have more information, I can't see them doing that.

But who knows, they may have found something in the house (blood, touch DNA on a particular relevant object).

yeah, i suppose they might be able to accelerate a lot of the steps, and just ordinarily don't because they're usually applying it to cold cases.