AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m also thinking about how the perp enticed Nancy to open the door.

Was Nancy a sleepwalker?<Modsnip>
The perp wouldn't have to entice her to the door. The perp broke into her home! My thinking is the perp went straight away into her bedroom. I have also read in several articles that she wore a hearing aid. Most people take off their hearing aids at night. I cannot imagine how terrifying it would be to wake up and see a man wearing a mask, gloves, and hovering over you in the middle of the night. Absolutely terrifying!
 
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DBM.
 
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What was his intent at that front door? I didn’t see any sign of forced entry there. He slowly walked up, with his head down, realized there was a camera, and went back and grabbed lantana to block the camera. I am assuming he removed it then. What happened next? Did he walk around and find another way in, or was someone else working on that? It was I think 20 minutes before a camera detected someone inside. Was he trying to get in the front, or was he just waiting at the front for someone to come out that front door?
Maybe waiting for someone to open the front door to let him in? We’ve heard the back slider was wide open when the family got there Sunday midday. Could be the person on the camera came in to assist with a vehicle and the other person may have walked into the area through the washes.

Just spitballing here, all MOO.
 
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My sense is that it's not, and there is another camera. We have heard rumors of two, and I've gotta believe that's accurate.

I half expected them to release video from that camera today, as they are surely doing the same thing they did with the doorbell video recovery.

It may not be as helpful though, or it might give something away that they don't want out there.
Also, if the rumored second camera isn’t a Nest, it may also require a slightly different process to recover the footage from the backend system.
 
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How common is burglary in Tucson, and how common are home invasions?
 
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Then it recorded for as long as the battery held up, and you're right--they have more video. I hope it's better than my inner pocket or countertop.
Do you suppose the image/person that LE said was captured "from a camera" at 2:12 was from the disconnected doorbell camera?
The camera can also record audio so it is possible there is audio of the conversation between the perp or perps and NG as they got in their vehicle (or her vehicle) and were still within WIFI range. Probably not the smartest move to take the camera which essentially becomes a tracking/bugging device!
 
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Also, if the rumored second camera isn’t a Nest, it may also require a slightly different process to recover the footage from the backend system.
I think it is a Nest because it appears to be on the same system (no video, no subscription), just like the first.

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Mods, am I allowed to post a screenshot of something posted on the Ring app locally in Tucson? It’s regarding this case and just has to do with neighbors checking camera footage.
I think what you want to post might already be posted a few spots above you.
 
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Concerning the tyre tracks found on the drive - could Nancy have used a “granny trolley” after she’d come home from the supermarket?

I'm glad you posted this. Those tire tracks have bothered me since day one. I have watched too many things concerning this case and have not seen those tire tracks ever mentioned. I first thought possible wheel barrow but I think there would be a third tire track. Then I thought wagon or wheel chair. I finally am convinced those tracks were made by a wheeled trashcan and could be how she was removed from the house. I keep wondering if she is being held nearby and never put in car?
 
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Then it recorded for as long as the battery held up, and you're right--they have more video. I hope it's better than my inner pocket or countertop.
Do you suppose the image/person that LE said was captured "from a camera" at 2:12 was from the disconnected doorbell camera?
If the doorbell lost its connection to WiFi then I’m pretty sure it can only store about an hour’s worth of footage.

The motion detected at 2:12 was reportedly from another camera inside the house.
 
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How common is burglary in Tucson, and how common are home invasions?
Burglaries happen, home invasions happen, but not common . From what I know, they are related to drugs usually.

Burglaries are often related to stealing things to obtain drugs. Now do I have hard evidence of this? No, it’s just what I’ve seen in the news and what’s passed to me from LE that I encounter at work. . Since I can’t quote or back it up I’ll say IMO, and I’m just repeating what I’ve been told
 
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The camera can also record audio so it is possible there is audio of the conversation between the perp or perps and NG as they got in their vehicle (or her vehicle) and were still within WIFI range. Probably not the smartest move to take the camera which essentially becomes a tracking/bugging device!
If the camera was put in his pocket or backpack it isn't going to record anything. It has to be activated by motion to record audio or video.
 
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I think what you want to post might already be posted a few spots above you.
I saw the video and while I can't tell if one of the backpacks looks like the one in the released photos/video, the time stamp on the video is 1:53am MST, which would have been when the perps where in NG's home. Unless the time stamps can be off?
 
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Came here to post this, I don’t see much discussion about this here.

They’re asking neighbors for footage from January 11, 20 days before the kidnapping, from 9pm-midnight.

And also the morning of the day that she was kidnapped, January 31 9:30am-11am “(suspicious vehicle on Via Entrada around 10am)” is what it says on my Ring notification. This is a nearby street to NG, possibly casing the place twice before committing the crime?
 

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I saw the video and while I can't tell if one of the backpacks looks like the one in the released photos/video, the time stamp on the video is 1:53am MST, which would have been when the perps where in NG's home. Unless the time stamps can be off?
Neither backpack looks like the ozark trail model used by the abductor.
 
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I saw the video and while I can't tell if one of the backpacks looks like the one in the released photos/video, the time stamp on the video is 1:53am MST, which would have been when the perps where in NG's home. Unless the time stamps can be off?
Yeah timing and distance does not work.
 
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I saw the video and while I can't tell if one of the backpacks looks like the one in the released photos/video, the time stamp on the video is 1:53am MST, which would have been when the perps where in NG's home. Unless the time stamps can be off?
Timestamps should be based on Ring's servers from what I know, so it's probably accurate. JMO.
 

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