Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[thefragile7393]

Regular lurker, rare poster, but there are numerous issues with this case that have frustrated me enough to ask or post something. I’m gonna stick to the pics and video of the masked man on NG’s Nest because it blew my mind in ways I wouldn’t think I would ordinarily do.

First off, and I don’t intend to make light but my own reaction was out of character, my initial response was “lazy millennial”! No sense of purpose! The way he mopes around, slow moving to the point I want to dub over “duh, which way did he go?” like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. The Lantana on the camera? Regardless of his motivation for grabbing them it is definitely a lack of preparedness. Whether that’s for concealment, to provide some grip to get purchase on it to yank or turn, or as some kind of gesture to get in, hide, or send some message to one or all family members. I wouldn’t carry my gun that doesn’t fit the holster there. I certainly would remove reflective gear from my clothing. I would be moving much more quickly and assertively. However, my subsequent viewing left me seeing a person more my own age (50’s) maybe a little stiff, and sure enough they weren’t getting caught to not move any faster than he needed to. I was aggravated either way because what I’m seeing in his activity is not as proficient as I would have liked them to be to cause this much difficulty in their capture.

I’m focusing on this because this is one of the very few pieces of evidence/actual fact that has been provided to us. But I’m still left pondering what I watched. So…

Are any of these images or videos time stamped or has law enforcement verified when these were recorded? Are with and without backpack shots from close time proximity to one another? Why do I find this important? His behavior takes on a different interpretation if this person was responsible for removal, a driver, or simply a lookout. When the clip starts the person is offscreen towards our left side of the doorway with their shadow visible. Where is that in location to say the garage, the main drive? Did this person just arrive because it’s time to take her out? This person annoys me less if his behavior fits his role.

None of the above is fact, just me thinking out loud. I appreciate reading other people’s posts because their thoughts help spur on my own, and hopefully this will do the same for someone else.

Praying for a (more) swift resolution.

In my opinion, we can’t figure out what generation this person is from. People from any generation can act very similarly.

From my working at a hospital, I’ve seen generalizations of pretty much every age group blown away by what they do or do not do. The way this person seems to act isn’t indicative of any age group IMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

reporter spoke with a member of the Guthrie family who provided additional information. Although she gave her name, Sally Guthrie did say she had concerns for her safety as the case continues. “To be honest, I am trying to keep a low profile because, as an elderly person who lives alone, I have become frightened,” Sally Guthrie said. She confirmed she was the first cousin of Nancy Guthrie’s late husband, Charles, who she said was from Pineville. “Find a Grave,” an online database of burial records which has the largest collection worldwide, has Charles Guthrie listed as being born in Harlan on Christmas Day in 1938.

The family member did confirm that she was the first cousin of Nancy Guthrie’s late husband, Charles, who she said was from Pineville. “Find a Grave,” an online database of burial records which has the largest collection worldwide, has Charles Guthrie listed as being born in Harlan on Christmas Day in 1938. The website lists his year of death as 1988. An obituary attached to Charles Guthrie’s “Find a Grave” page relays that he died while on a mining exploration project in Mexico.

The obituary also confirms that he was survived by his wife, Nancy Guthrie, and daughter, Savannah Guthrie, among other children and relatives. Savannah Guthrie has earned national fame as the co-anchor of the NBC News morning show Today, a position she has held since 2012.

Missing person family member confirms Guthrie has ties to area - Harlan Enterprise

Before her name became a part of a highly-publicized national missing person’s case, Nancy Guthrie once lived in Harlan County – an interesting detail in the alarming saga currently unfolding […]

harlanenterprise.net

 

[Magic8Ball]

Are any of these images or videos time stamped or has law enforcement verified when these were recorded? Are with and without backpack shots from close time proximity to one another? Why do I find this important? His behavior takes on a different interpretation if this person was responsible for removal, a driver, or simply a lookout. When the clip starts the person is offscreen towards our left side of the doorway with their shadow visible. Where is that in location to say the garage, the main drive? Did this person just arrive because it’s time to take her out? This person annoys me less if his behavior fits his role.

None of the above is fact, just me thinking out loud. I appreciate reading other people’s posts because their thoughts help spur on my own, and hopefully this will do the same for someone else.

Praying for a (more) swift resolution.

Snipped for focus:

In response to the bolded portion of your post above, the garage is on the same side of the house we see the intruder come into view from in the ring clip, i.e, from the viewer's left.

JMO.

 

[detectivewannab]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021802019993051272

Maybe the black gloves were planted.

 

[Elle*Bee]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

I was wondering about that.

 

[New Penny]

I am beginning to think this was never a kidnapping. The person on camera was hired to clean up the crime scene and perhaps dispose of the body, and Nancy was murdered before his arrival. I won’t speculate on the murderer, though. I think we all have our thoughts, and that is enough. Still doesn’t explain the Apple Watch sync, if it happened earlier in the night, though. The kidnapping theory has just gotten weird and is going in too many insane directions.

Have not thought of this! I’ve been trying to put my finger on his general demeanor approaching the entry. No hurry or anxiety. Reluctance seems to fit.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[Kapua]

I appreciate you trying to learn more about the method and place of entry into NG's home because to me it seems like such a wild card question, given how large the home is, it's all one floor - who's to say the perps even went through a door? Could have been a window. Or multiple entry points. I don't think we even know if she has a security system and if so, how it operates (just movement in the home, just open/closing doors, windows?, was it on that night in its full capacity? sometimes people leave them off - she's lived there decades or forget especially after a late night). Broken into or keys/codes used? Entries already unlocked? Happens a lot where I grew up, less likely in Tucson I would imagine.

The weirdest thing about the Nest cam footage we've seen, to me/MOO, is that they were even at the front door, given all the other possibilities.

A lot of people with security systems only arm them when they are away from home. My alarm system has an Away mode and a Stay mode. When in Stay mode, the motion sensors in the house are disabled, but the window and door sensors are enabled. When in Away mode, all sensors are enabled.

As for entry, let's look at possibilities:
1. Entered through a garage door. (Someone posted upthread that older garage doors are easy to defeat.)
2. Entered through an unlocked door.
3. Entered through a door by using a key.
4. Entered through a door by picking a lock.
5. Entered through a window.

For #3. I want to know who had keys to Nancy's house. Is there a possibility that someone copied a key that one of her family members or household staff kept? Also, did she hide a key outside somewhere in case she locked herself out?

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

Does anyone know if it was wired, or battery operated? If battery operated, it would definitely continue recording until the battery was removed.
I know this because I've some lovely video of my inner jacket pocket and kitchen countertop.

 

[nightowl2728]

A lot of people with security systems only arm them when they are away from home. My alarm system has an Away mode and a Stay mode. When in Stay mode, the motion sensors in the house are disabled, but the window and door sensors are enabled. When in Away mode, all sensors are enabled.

As for entry, let's look at possibilities:
1. Entered through a garage door. (Someone posted upthread that older garage doors are easy to defeat.)
2. Entered through an unlocked door.
3. Entered through a door by using a key.
4. Entered through a door by picking a lock.
5. Entered through a window.

For #3. I want to know who had keys to Nancy's house. Is there a possibility that someone copied a key that one of her family members or household staff kept? Also, did she hide a key outside somewhere in case she locked herself out?

Yes and you can even have the "Away" alarm on when you're home for different rooms. For example, maybe the main part of the house is alarmed but the bedroom/bathroom isn't. Just as an example. I know many people have it for the first floor but not upstairs when they go to bed upstairs.
It just seems like for entry there are unlimited possibilities... why the front door?

 

[Der Detektiv]

Concerning the tyre tracks found on the drive - could Nancy have used a “granny trolley” after she’d come home from the supermarket?

 

[Slamalam]

Like this?

I was going to suggest Prince, but I can’t find one of him available anywhere.

 

[Der Detektiv]

I’m also thinking about how the perp enticed Nancy to open the door.

Was Nancy a sleepwalker? <modsnip>

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I know Tucson is a bigger city than Moscow, ID -- but thinking about the Kohberger crime and looking at the Tucson map, it's clear that once the kidnappers presumably drove out of NG's foothills neighborhood, at some point they will have gotten onto a major road (unless they drove her up into the mountains, of course).

And major roads (especially with businesses) have cameras.

Can any Tucson locals describe how empty or busy those main streets would be at, say, 3 or 3:30am? Quiet enough for individual cars to stand out?

In the Idaho crime they were able to see the same car at various points around town as he drove to and from the crime in the wee hours. Might things be quiet enough that the same could be done/hopefully is being done in Tucson?

ETA: I don't mean the freeways. I mean the routes into/out of her neighborhood (assuming there are some traffic cams on those roads?)

 

[NewYork625]

Also, where is the footage of Nancy arriving to her home from earlier in the evening???

No camera in the garage area, or it was possibly overwritten.

 

[nightowl2728]

I'm going to assume that CP truly was a dead end... I think if he wasn't/actually had information, we would have seen more activity today :/

 

[Magic8Ball]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

My own impression of the video, at least the clip where the perp is walking back with the lantana, was that it was cut off by LE at a specific point as he began to walk back toward the camera.

Methinks there's something significant caught on camera that LE doesn't want out in the public domain.

JMO.

 

[DizzyB]

Have not thought of this! I’ve been trying to put my finger on his general demeanor approaching the entry. No hurry or anxiety. Reluctance seems to fit.

MOO

What was his intent at that front door? I didn’t see any sign of forced entry there. He slowly walked up, with his head down, realized there was a camera, and went back and grabbed lantana to block the camera. I am assuming he removed it then. What happened next? Did he walk around and find another way in, or was someone else working on that? It was I think 20 minutes before a camera detected someone inside. Was he trying to get in the front, or was he just waiting at the front for someone to come out that front door?

 

[MassGuy]

Does anyone know if it was wired, or battery operated? If battery operated, it would definitely continue recording until the battery was removed.
I know this because I've some lovely video of my inner jacket pocket and kitchen countertop.

It’s battery for sure. You can see it’s not hardwired.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In another development, TMZ reports that the bitcoin account associated with Nancy Guthrie’s expired ransom demand suddenly showed activity earlier on Tuesday local time.

The outlet reports that around $152 worth of bitcoin showed up in the account’s publicly viewable log. It is not known where the money came from, but anyone with a copy of the ransom note would have had the information required to send the money.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-cctv-shows-armed-man-at-home-of-missing-mother-nancy-guthrie/news-story/e3ce80dc7596eef3888218b0768eacb2