AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #23,641
If the backpack is truly from Walmart, that would be something. How many times have we seen footage of criminals buying their gear at Walmart?
They gotta buy it somewhere.
 
  • #23,642
This has been a thought of mine..Only because I know of an instance where it has happened (I was close with the family that it happened to) and I know it has happened here in Tucson a few times. I wonder if this is a home invasion that was mistaken house. Like thefragile7393 said, they do happen, but it usually has to do with drugs.
How many of those people take an 84-year-old woman with them?
 
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In a recent discussion, Greg Gutfeld proposed an intriguing strategy regarding the ongoing mystery surrounding Savannah Guthrie. Gutfeld, a co-host known for his sharp insights, suggested that Guthrie, perceived as the least likely suspect, should voluntarily undergo a polygraph test

This suggestion aims to create pressure on other individuals associated with the case. By having Guthrie take the polygraph, it could prompt others to follow suit. Gutfeld believes that no one should be ruled out at this stage, and the willingness or reluctance to participate in the test might reveal more about the individuals involved.

Expert Opinions on Polygraph Testing​

Paul Mauro, a guest on the show, chimed in on Gutfeld’s idea. He noted that, as of now, there has been no known application of polygraph tests in this case. While Mauro expressed uncertainty about the progression of the investigation, he acknowledged that the results of polygraph tests are typically not admissible in court.
  • Gutfeld’s Main Argument: Initiating a polygraph test for Guthrie could help uncover the truth.
  • Impact of the Test: Reluctance to participate may indicate something unusual.
  • Legal Considerations: Polygraph results are not used as evidence in court but can serve as investigative pointers.
You could not pay me to do a polygraph. Those things are so easy to flop or pass, and since they can’t hold up in court, there’s no reason to do one. Yes, they can be a tool, but if somebody doesn’t pass due to nerves or whatever, then they can continually be harassed by law-enforcement or by the public at large in my opinion.
 
  • #23,644
This is my first post regarding this incredibly unusual case. I have noticed that the black gloves that have been discussed are used by mechanics, as well as other people. I just realized that the person in the video on Ms. Guthrie's front porch also had a "mouth" flashlight. I think mechanics also use those frequently. It may be nothing, but thought I would share. It may be a coincidence that two of the objects are used by that particular profession.
 
  • #23,645
In a recent discussion, Greg Gutfeld proposed an intriguing strategy regarding the ongoing mystery surrounding Savannah Guthrie. Gutfeld, a co-host known for his sharp insights, suggested that Guthrie, perceived as the least likely suspect, should voluntarily undergo a polygraph test

This suggestion aims to create pressure on other individuals associated with the case. By having Guthrie take the polygraph, it could prompt others to follow suit. Gutfeld believes that no one should be ruled out at this stage, and the willingness or reluctance to participate in the test might reveal more about the individuals involved.

Expert Opinions on Polygraph Testing​

Paul Mauro, a guest on the show, chimed in on Gutfeld’s idea. He noted that, as of now, there has been no known application of polygraph tests in this case. While Mauro expressed uncertainty about the progression of the investigation, he acknowledged that the results of polygraph tests are typically not admissible in court.
  • Gutfeld’s Main Argument: Initiating a polygraph test for Guthrie could help uncover the truth.
  • Impact of the Test: Reluctance to participate may indicate something unusual.
  • Legal Considerations: Polygraph results are not used as evidence in court but can serve as investigative pointers.
Polygraph tests are bogus. They’re totally subjective and attorneys advise their clients not to take them.
 
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Could be. The celebrity ones I've seen are thicker, not stretchy, and oversize. I think they'd looker bulkier under the ski mask than the images released. The features on celebrity masks are often exaggerated. Underneath the ski mask, the eyebrows would be more prominent, I think.

The mask under the ski mask looks more like the realistic-looking, form-fitting kind used by the assassin in Minnesota wore.

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Same type of mask under ski mask in my opinion.
 
  • #23,648
In regards to the "Face" of masked man:

Does anyone see them 'blink' in any of the videos?

Does anyone else see the mouth in the exactly same position (lips slightly parted) throughout different shots, like a frozen face?

Does anyone notice the 'brows' go all the way flat towards the center of the nose, not normally arching?

I need to watch it again, but these are some reasons why I suspect it's a mask and not a real face.
Mouth is open because he has what they call a bite light in his mouth. It's a flashlight you gently bite down on to cause it to illuminate so your hands are free to work.
 
  • #23,649
I love neighborhood cooperation and think Nancy’s area has been great.
 
  • #23,650
even if it exists, they are only releasing footage that they think will be useful in finding the person(s) who did this. No one needs to se

If they had this video, why would they release it? They released the videos they did because they contained images of an alleged perpetrator. They're not going to release every video they have; only the ones that have information they want the public to get. I don't think any conclusions at all can be drawn from videos that we don't know if they have, and they probably wouldn't release if they did.
The purpose in asking this question was not about “releasing” the footage, more about the fact we haven’t heard definitively if she ever walked into the house that evening and if she had been spotted on camera, I would think they would state that, and I haven’t heard this. Someone else mentioned she supposedly went in through the garage.
 
  • #23,651
You could not pay me to do a polygraph. Those things are so easy to flop or pass, and since they can’t hold up in court, there’s no reason to do one. Yes, they can be a tool, but if somebody doesn’t pass due to nerves or whatever, then they can continually be harassed by law-enforcement or by the public at large in my opinion.
I listen to full interrogations. There was a case with a missing little girl. They interrogated several people. It was clear to me this one guy was not the guy. But they asked him to take a polygraph. He agreed, but was nervous. He failed. Luckily for him, the guy who did it was found, it was definitely him. I was horrified!!!! The innocent guy even said why would I fail since I didn't do it? She said I don't know, but I wouldn't take any more in the future.
I literally think I would fail it, too. Because just hearing questions about the crime would make me nervous. I have already decided I will always refuse one, if I am asked to take one. And I will refer to that guy I watched take one and fail!!!!
 
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This is my first post regarding this incredibly unusual case. I have noticed that the black gloves that have been discussed are used by mechanics, as well as other people. I just realized that the person in the video on Ms. Guthrie's front porch also had a "mouth" flashlight. I think mechanics also use those frequently. It may be nothing, but thought I would share. It may be a coincidence that two of the objects are used by that particular profession.
That's really interesting, thanks for sharing. To be honest, when I was thinking about the mouth flashlight I was surprised I had never thought to do that for certain household tasks and how it would be helpful... maybe a mechanic would have not had to think about it.

EDIT: It seems like there would be limited places to buy a mouth bite light as some are calling it; if that is what it is. I would think that would be more specific than the backpack or clothing for LE to trace purchases. Unless the person is in fact a mechanic or close proximity to one where they could get it easily.
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Unrelated, could there be significance to the first sentence of the criminal complaint for the ransom imposter? It says "N.G. was last seen inside her residence in the Catalina Foothills.... on January 31, 2026" (emphasis and sniping by me).
I thought the last time anyone "saw" her was when family dropped her off? Did they SEE her go into the house and that is what is meant?
I also think it confirms that she did disappear from her house and not another location perhaps earlier in the evening. I can't imagine LE would lie in a complaint; I think they would just leave that information out if it was meant to be secret in the ongoing investigation. But I could be mistaken/MOO.
Or, was whoever wrote this just sloppy and inexact.
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  • #23,653
The "talking heads" on tv are driving me crazy. They really don't know anything about this crime, and are making sweeping generalizations. Specifically, about "ageism". And that an older woman should not be living alone.

No one brought issues of age up when the college kids in Moscow, ID were murdered.
 
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The purpose in asking this question was not about “releasing” the footage, more about the fact we haven’t heard definitively if she ever walked into the house that evening and if she had been spotted on camera, I would think they would state that, and I haven’t heard this. Someone else mentioned she supposedly went in through the garage.
LE have never suggested that her going home was a question so why would they focus on that or comment on it?
 
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You could not pay me to do a polygraph. Those things are so easy to flop or pass, and since they can’t hold up in court, there’s no reason to do one. Yes, they can be a tool, but if somebody doesn’t pass due to nerves or whatever, then they can continually be harassed by law-enforcement or by the public at large in my opinion.

My own opinion of polygraphs, is that they are a psychological tool to tell suspects who have taken a polygraph that they failed it, to coerce a confession.

The fact that results are not admissible in court, tells me that they are subject to interpretation, and therefore, junk.
 
  • #23,656
This is clearly a dangerous place to live. Metal doors and most nice neighborhoods have classy metal barred windows.
 
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This is clearly a dangerous place to live. Metal doors and most nice neighborhoods have classy metal barred windows.
Are you joking? Or…?
 
  • #23,658
This is my first post regarding this incredibly unusual case. I have noticed that the black gloves that have been discussed are used by mechanics, as well as other people. I just realized that the person in the video on Ms. Guthrie's front porch also had a "mouth" flashlight. I think mechanics also use those frequently. It may be nothing, but thought I would share. It may be a coincidence that two of the objects are used by that particular profession.
This. I posted earlier that the gloves resembled ones that Tattoo artists use, they look like black nitrile gloves being worn over thicker gloves, IMO. Mechanics also use them frequently. Just doing a little research, they are not found in that color in many places outside of Home Depot, Menards, or ordering them online. It just seems to me that unless they were seeking those specific gloves out, it maybe something that they had a personal supply of already due to a line of work they are in.
 
  • #23,659
This is clearly a dangerous place to live. Metal doors and most nice neighborhoods have classy metal barred windows.
I've got a security storm door on both my front and garage side door. No crime here. I just like it because you can leave it open, let air in and it feels secure.
 
  • #23,660
Is there a confirmation from church friend she was supposed to go to friends house for service online and did not arrive so they contacted SIL and AG. I can't find a link.
Pima County Sheriff confirmed this. The church was the NY one that Savannah attends in person and NG and friends watch the online service at 9AM Tucson time. (11am Eastern). I think friends alerted AG around 11AM but it was after Noon that AG alerted 911.
 

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