AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Traced to Walmart meaning Walmart sells them. Not traced in the sense they have a person who bought those items in the Tucson store. 🙄
Its still very good info to have!!
 
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I’ve lived in 2 states, many homes and have never had a system or a camera currently either
Old and live alone now, still don’t
Same here. My 18 year old high school senior son is still at home. And I have a German shepherd mix dog that alerts me to anything unusual around my house. I will probably get cameras after my son goes to college. I honestly could never make up my mind about a camera, live on a dead end street with neighbors who are attentive and have cameras. But when I do decide to get cameras, I will be getting the subscription 🤷‍♀️
 
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is it verified these items were bought at the walmart? Or is it just that Walmart carries them? The DM article is paywalled.
It's just that Walmart carries them.
 
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Does anyone know what happened to that blue shirt crumpled up on a rock on the side of NG’s front walk? Photo from AZcentral.com
There's a closer view of the blue shirt on . THIS VIDEO IS FROM FEB 10 AND IS NOT NEW.

I asked many pages ago if this had ever been mentioned, but haven't seen it anywhere. Not sure it means anything. Just weird how everything else has been analyzed to extreme, but this was there early and got no attention. But it may have zero significance.

I'm so confused about he video that TMZ just released. Where is that at. Is that the night of the kidnapping? Is that Nancy's garage? Or where?
 
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TMZ released the video, not law enforcement. They blurred the face to protect themselves from litigation if it turns out to be unrelated.

I’m sure it’s been forwarded to law enforcement.

This video, and another showing a guy trying car doors, are visually very compelling.
But why would a probably homeless guy suddenly decide to break into a house, and after encountering a mobility challenged 84 year old woman, decide to take her. And how in the world would he take her? I doubt he had a car with him.
 
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The security cameras at Walmart will have a good picture of whoever bought the items, so even a cash purchase will yield major evidence. If he used self checkout, even better. Those cameras are practically up your nostrils when they're recording.
The self-checkout cameras are incredibly unforgiving. Another reason to never commit a crime beyond the very obvious ones... risk of those photos being released to the public...! (all IMO and just a lighthearted joke about how I look in the self-checkout cameras)
 
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I dunno, I made time this morning for laundry, dishes, and a meal before checking the site and now I have no clue what's happening. Breaks are dangerous. ;)
Right?!
 
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From what I understand, a person can only be held for questioning for a short time without grounds for arrest unless there are extenuating circumstances. I believe they stopped this guy because they thought he was about to cross the boarder, not because they had some basis for arrest.
Next level, in AZ a person can only be held under arrest without charges for 48 hrs.
Perhaps worth mentioning: In each case, LE interviews dozens, even hundreds of people. When the case is finally solved, the culprit's name is frequently found among those interviewed in the early days of the investigation, as I recall. AI compiled this list:
"To explore famous criminals who were interviewed early in their investigations, consider the following cases:
  1. Ted Bundy - Interviewed by police while he was a suspect in multiple disappearances.
  2. John Wayne Gacy - Initially questioned by police about his activities before being arrested for murder.
  3. David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) - Gave interviews to police during the early stages of the investigation into his shooting spree.
  4. Jeffrey Dahmer - Interrogated by police after being caught with evidence linking him to multiple murders.
  5. Aileen Wuornos - Provided interviews to law enforcement shortly after her arrest for a series of murders.
  6. Richard Ramirez (Night Stalker) - Interviewed by police during the investigation into his crime spree, which garnered significant media attention."
IMO, it is important to remember, the culprits' names were buried among all the other people interviewed who were innocent.

Since Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer, is who came to my mind when writing this post, I went back to AI:
"To determine if Gary Ridgway was interviewed early in the Green River Killer investigations, consider the following points:

  • Gary Ridgway was initially interviewed by police in 1983.
  • He was a suspect due to his proximity to the crime scenes.
  • Ridgway denied involvement during early interviews.
  • He was not arrested until 2001, despite being interviewed multiple times.
  • His interviews did not lead to immediate evidence linking him to the murders.
  • Ridgway later confessed to the killings after his arrest."
 
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There's a closer view of the blue shirt on
I asked many pages ago if this had ever been mentioned, but haven't seen it anywhere. Not sure it means anything. Just weird how everything else has been analyzed to extreme, but this was there early and got no attention. But it may have zero significance.

I'm so confused about he video that TMZ just released. Where is that at. Is that the night of the kidnapping? Is that Nancy's garage? Or where?
Not sure about the blue shirt.

The video is around the same time as NG's kidnapping, but it was 5 miles south. Impossible to go 5 miles in 5 minutes.
 
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Traced to Walmart meaning Walmart sells them. Not traced in the sense they have a person who bought those items in the Tucson store. 🙄
thank you. so just some DM click bait.
 
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Traced to Walmart meaning Walmart sells them. Not traced in the sense they have a person who bought those items in the Tucson store. 🙄
Then why does it say Tucson Walmart? I can't see the article
 
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This may have been shared already, tent going up outside her front door/porch area.
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TMZ released the video, not law enforcement. They blurred the face to protect themselves from litigation if it turns out to be unrelated.

I’m sure it’s been forwarded to law enforcement.
They blurred the face but if you watch the original video without the blur it definitely looks like he is also wearing a mask. Very strange if unrelated.
 
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Yes, can someone who can read the DM article please elaborate on the Walmart claim? Do we really know it is from a specific Walmart at a specific time, etc.?
No. The DM article just points out they are available at Walmart. Excerpt:

"To many observers, the entire outfit appears newly purchased. Generic. Budget. Cobbled together from big-box or online retailers in an effort to avoid standing out.

The Daily Mail found several of these items in a Walmart just miles from Guthrie's home.

Vecchi said that is consistent with offenders attempting stealth. They avoid wearing their own clothes. They buy disposable items. They assume anonymity lies in being ordinary.

But ordinary leaves a paper trail.

'No matter what it was, it's going to generate some sort of retail transaction, digital transaction, and distribution trail,' Vecchi said.

That is where the real grind begins. According to Leising, agents will first work to identify the precise make and model of every visible item – backpack, gloves, holster, jacket, weapon attachment.

Even seemingly bland products can often be narrowed down through stitching patterns, strap geometry, zipper pulls and the way fabric drapes on a body.

'Somebody knows that strap. Somebody knows that holster,' Leising said.

Once identified, investigators trace where those products are sold."

 
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I’ve noticed the Daily mail gets US news faster than we do!
 
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Brian Entin interviewed a retired Sheriff’s Dept officer. He felt the case has been botched from the beginning and blamed the Sheriff’s huge ego. He said the Sheriff would not relinquish much of the investigation to the FBI; the Sheriff’s investigators have only been hired in the last few years and limited expertise; stated it was laughable that the Sheriff rushed out to Rio Rico to be out front if they made an arrest of the Door Dash guy - said Sheriff should remain in the office to coordinate the investigation, etc. Obviously the retired officer had nothing good to say about Sheriff Nanos.
This is was a good interview. Re: his statements about Nanos' character, I couldn't help but wonder how much, if any, was inspired by interpersonal hostility. I got the sense (opinion!) that the retired officer never liked the guy. So it made me question any demarcation between "emotional" and "likely".

My geez, I hope this ramble makes any sense. Smh @ myself.
 
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This video, and another showing a guy trying car doors, are visually very compelling.
But why would a probably homeless guy suddenly decide to break into a house, and after encountering a mobility challenged 84 year old woman, decide to take her. And how in the world would he take her? I doubt he had a car with him.
I'm thinking it wasn't a homeless person. The guy on Nancy's porch looked well nourished and the clothes, mask and bag didn't look like they had any wear and tear. I think the videos are unrelated.
 

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