AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[VTHOMM]

Man with similar backpack is like man with similar Nike shoes. I can't believe TMZ put this out or it's getting any traction.

Doesn't look like the same jacket...etc...

 

[CandyKiss]

Also think they should look into restaurants NG, and maybe even her and AG together, went to in past 2 months. Where one or both of them had complained a lot. If they were together and it was AG who threw a fit, then maybe someone wanted to punish her.

Why would you think this; do you know if their personalities suggest this type of behavior?

 

[VegasGirl35]

I don't think any ransom notes should be taken seriously at this point. It will be almost two weeks now. The chances that she is still alive at this point is very slim.

Agreed. Whatever plan they had has gone to complete s***. There's no way they can collect money without being caught, so they tied up loose ends and bailed. I'd be shocked if they were even still in the U.S.

 

[Hans Olo]

So does AB. I know what you mean, but maybe just communicate with investigators instead of publishing immediately for clicks. JMO

You have no way of knowing they didn’t contact them first before publishing.

 

[jtfolden]

I agree the most likely usage of the flowers was to get a better grip for removing the camera, when it seemed the glove might tear from the first attempt, or the glove was slipping on it in the first attempt. We see the first attempt, glove-only.

IMO, etc.

Neoprene gloves are actually quite grippy when dry. They would become more slippery when they got wet, such as the juices from a soft plant.

 

[sds71]

The link to submit video does not work in the latest Pima County Sheriff's Department post requesting video footage

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022036134017323377

 

[GooseyPie]

I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.

 

[allboys]

I've also seen plural "aids" written

If Nancy’s hearing aids were both being charged when family/LE came to the home, then I think that would be a good indicator she was in bed when intruder(s) entered. It’s not like an intruder would take her hearing aids off, then charge them. My mom charges hers at night.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Does this mean the “1:47 am doorbell camera disconnects” entry has been removed from the timeline? Some clarification would be nice.

Ugh, yes, this definitely muddies the water. I wonder if there were multiple Nest cameras and it was a different one that disconnected. Or if the doorbell camera did later reconnect and upload more footage (as I earlier said I thought was unlikely, but obviously I could have been wrong). MOO

 

[Boxer]

BBM:
Agreed. It sounds like someone who's disgruntled/complaining about the fact that they don't have a larger role.

It will be someone from the Sheriff's Office who said that, not an FBI agent.

An FBI agent is a professional who knows and understands chain of command.

JMO.

Agree. POST class: Jurisdiction 101

 

[Der Detektiv]

I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.

How are you supposed to remove a pacemaker that easily? I thought it was under the skin. Are you suggesting the perp has surgical knowledge?

 

[Lamima]

Why would you think this; do you know if their personalities suggest this type of behavior?

Because of the black gloves he wore which some restaurants use. And maybe the removing of NG body is to punish AG. Just a thought I had but no real insight to that.

Trying to figure out why take NG out of the home if it wasn't for ransom?

 

[txsleuth70]

Or even yesterday?? Why now? Have they got the DNA off the gloves? Has the maintenance workers etc DNA samples come back?

If he double gloved with disposables there probably isn't any DNA on them, sadly.

 

[stmichael]

That we haven’t had a description of the perp’s vehicle yet is one of the strangest things about this investigation so far.

I know that neighbours’ cameras wouldn’t get usable images from the road in an area without streetlights, because the houses are set back from the road and, in low light, you’d get nothing usable. But why no images from nearby cameras on larger roads? I can’t imagine too much traffic at 1-2 am.

Does it mean NG wasn’t taken far from her house?

The problem seems to be linking the larger common roads (w/ more random traffic) that have cams to any vehicle from the crime scene which is a "blind spot" (a neighborhood w/o traffic lights, dark, houses spaced out/set back no traffic cams).

One other point an ex FBI agent who was commentating on scene was that the neighborhood is like a maze, multiple entry and exit points that lead to other roads. So hard to guesstimate a truck or van when you have a "blind spot" at the original location and lots of exit/connecting road possibilities. It seems they do not have a car linked. Having a long driveway/set back from road myself and a systems of cctv and wifi cams, if someone parks down the driveway or on the road there will be no footage (same for my neighbors who are spaced out, lots of woods in between). So IMO they're looking for suspicious vehicles that fit the bill and "reverse engineering" any appearances on neighborhood footage and bigger roads that lead there within that time frame.

The property and neighborhood set-up and darkness def. make this harder for investigators (and was likely. an opportunistic consideration by the criminal including any knowledge that an elderly woman lived there alone). Probably why he seemed relaxed.

 

[oc1234]

The link to submit video does not work in the latest Pima County Sheriff's Department post requesting video footage

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022036134017323377

What a cluster

 

[GooseyPie]

How are you supposed to remove a pacemaker that easily? I thought it was under the skin. Are you suggesting the perp has surgical knowledge?

Don’t need it if she’s dead.

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

AC runs in AZ even in the winter?

SBMFF

I am an AZ native, & we have had our A/C running these last couple of weeks as it’s been in the 80s outside already.

I have a friend who just turned 73 years-old yesterday (also here in AZ), and she keeps her house at 76-77 degrees summer or winter.

I would expect this depends a great deal upon the person & his/her preferences

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

If she wore hearing aides and did not have them in at night, perhaps she would not hear the AC shutting off. My mom wears them (not at night) and no way would ,she hear the AC was not running. I tease her that a marching band could come through and she'd be oblivious.

It is often cold at night in Tucson in January/early February and warm during the day. While it's a personal preference, of course, it seems that she might have the heat on at night and the A/C on during the day. MO

 

[DizzyB]

The lantana thing is intriguing. Was it to block the camera? Was he having trouble pulling the camera and he knew that sticky lantana would help his grip? Was he afraid the Nest housing would cut his glove and he wanted to put something between the glove and the Nest? Why did he think the lantana was a good idea, and why was he not more prepared? I am of the opinion that he was trying to hide himself as he first approached the door, so why did he allow himself to be captured on it?

 

[nightowl2728]

I know. Neither one is the ozark trail backpack and the jacket isn’t the same either…

I originally thought the man on the Ring camera in the neighborhood DID NOT look like the perp from the video, but to be honest upon taking a closer look and with the renewed timing explanation "from" TMZ, I'm not so sure and I think it doesn't have to be the SAME person. MOO

The backpack that the man lifts up is hard to see, but to me there's nothing that explicitly shows that it's NOT the Ozark Trails backpack in the NG Nest video. Unless you can see otherwise?
I also think there's a possibility that this man isn't the one on NG's Nest video but perhaps was an accomplice in with 1+ others (as the FBI has said they are looking into multiple people being involved).
Maybe he gave or took the backpack to/from the person we see in the NG Nest video (who in one of them DOES NOT have the backpack on - it's unclear to me whether that's before or after the other footage and I don't think specific timing of each was released, but let me know if I'm wrong).

Sorry I'm working as well so haven't screenshotted everything but if someone wants to I think that would be helpful to determine either way, or I can look later!
For those curious about route/timing, if you look back two posts of mine I have a screenshot of the route from the Ring camera footage to NG's (and the TMZ article).