• #24,701
I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.
??? THAT would have been VERY bloody. JMO
 
  • #24,702
Is this a troll or should LE take this seriously. Thoughts?

I would suspect it is probably a troll, but if I am Savannah, 1 bitcoin would be like a drop in the bucket. I would pay on the off chance it may be legit (as small a % of a chance that may be). MOO
 
  • #24,703
I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.
There is more than drops, there is aspirated blood, I dont see a way to fake that.
 
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How are you supposed to remove a pacemaker that easily? I thought it was under the skin. Are you suggesting the perp has surgical knowledge?
The pulse generator is just under the skin on the left side of the chest just beneath the collar bone. It's easily visible. Not that I think anyone removed it, but it wouldn't be difficult. IMO
 
  • #24,705
??? THAT would have been VERY bloody. JMO
Doesn't mean it isn't possible, that rucksack had something in it and may have dripped a trail
 
  • #24,706
Tucson Outdoor Lighting Code is so strict—requiring specific shielding angles and total lumen caps—that many residents find it easier to just leave the lights off rather than risk a fine. Likely, the only people you will encounter outside after dark are criminals! Government restrictions seem too rigid there. I am sure it's not imperative the stargazers get to stargaze EVERY night. A better idea might be to give them a few days a week of dark skies instead of 24x7.

Outdoor lighting codes are not just about "star gazing" - light pollution has important implications for human, animal and plant health.

Wikipedia: Light pollution: Consequences
 
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  • #24,708
"If you have hearing loss in only one ear and normal or nearly normal hearing in the other, then one hearing aid is all you need. But most people have hearing loss in both ears, especially if the loss is age-related."

Perhaps it depends where in the world you live, I know and worked with deaf people, children to adult and only one person has two because shes deaf in both ears, so both can be true
 
  • #24,709
Like some of you, my mind is beginning to wander from my initial hunch. I watch too much Dateline. I am now sadly, wondering about other possibilities, like if either AG or TC 'joked' about doing something to her and wasn't serious, and other one took action to help, or one joked but was actually serious? Or, did either one have a lover, that did something to NG to 'help' them, or was NG causing this person grief because they wanted more time with AG and NG was taking too much time away? Were AG/TC having marital issues? Ugh. This needs to be solved and NG needs to be found so the family can be cleared, and have closure to grieve. Either someone wanted her to disappear or this was random. I have little hope NG will be ok.
 
  • #24,710
I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.
No
 
  • #24,711
I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.
That's what I think too. Until there’s verification she physically entered her house, I think it’s fair to question the timeline. There’s been no footage shown of her arrival or departure from Annie’s. If that confirmation exists, why not release something to put these questions to rest?
 
  • #24,712
The lantana thing is intriguing. Was it to block the camera? Was he having trouble pulling the camera and he knew that sticky lantana would help his grip? Was he afraid the Nest housing would cut his glove and he wanted to put something between the glove and the Nest? Why did he think the lantana was a good idea, and why was he not more prepared? I am of the opinion that he was trying to hide himself as he first approached the door, so why did he allow himself to be captured on it?
Honestly, it looks like someone high or that has an intellectual disability. The gun is being worn so weirdly that all he needs is to also be carrying Big Gulp.
 
  • #24,713
Is the delivery driver that was detained off limits?
 
  • #24,714
The lantana thing is intriguing. Was it to block the camera? Was he having trouble pulling the camera and he knew that sticky lantana would help his grip? Was he afraid the Nest housing would cut his glove and he wanted to put something between the glove and the Nest? Why did he think the lantana was a good idea, and why was he not more prepared? I am of the opinion that he was trying to hide himself as he first approached the door, so why did he allow himself to be captured on it?
I think he had woollen gloves on underneath the rubber gloves and his finger pinch grip was off because of the bulkiness imo
 
  • #24,715
Because of the black gloves he wore which some restaurants use. And maybe the removing of NG body is to punish AG. Just a thought I had but no real insight to that.

Trying to figure out why take NG out of the home if it wasn't for ransom?
Unfortunately to hide the evidence from SA. We had a case in Paso Robles, CA and another case in Vermont. Both older female victims living alone and taken. It's not common but does happen.
 
  • #24,716
I would suspect it is probably a troll, but if I am Savannah, 1 bitcoin would be like a drop in the bucket. I would pay on the off chance it may be legit (as small a % of a chance that may be). MOO
I tend to agree with this. At least they will know.
 
  • #24,717
If the other dudes in the footage they released today is who Patel was calling "persons of interest" I'm not confident they are connected at all.
 
  • #24,718
That's what I think too. Until there’s verification she physically entered her house, I think it’s fair to question the timeline. There’s been no footage shown of her arrival or departure from Annie’s. If that confirmation exists, why not release something to put these questions to rest?
because "putting questions to rest" is not something LE does or should care about. that's more like a political motivation.
 
  • #24,719
I wouldn't notice for a bit if the AC/Heat was off but I'd notice very quickly if the fan turned off LOL
Yes but this is an elderly woman with hearing impairment.
 
  • #24,720
The link to submit video does not work in the latest Pima County Sheriff's Department post requesting video footage

Unreal. You always test the link. You have a meeting about file size, and what types of files can be uploaded. Your IT people run point, and explain everything to all team members who are less tech savvy. You make a plan, and then release. Or, you just wing it, and hope for the best. As the Sheriff says, your guess is as good as mine.
 

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