AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[PCHS]

It certainly has been interpreted that way by most, so I don't have any issues with that potential motive. I sway back and forth. But we can't dismiss those kinds of actions as irrelevant or trivial and stop talking about them if we aren't absolutely certain, and when those actions can and do have other meanings and intentions.

JMO.

IMO there is also hyperfocusing on things that are just extremely extremely unlikely which do more harm then good..jmo

 

[merrymary]

Is there a point where we can get over the lantana? Please. Does it matter? Really? In the grand scheme of things. Let the Lantana Go MOO

...I don't know, I am kind of liking the nickname of the perp..."Lantana Man"

 

[milkshakedonkey]

The public’s understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes is not their operational priority. They’re holding their cards very close. Every now and then they seem to throw the public a bone but I just don’t believe they’re going to ever reveal specific information to the public unless they have a slam dunk case. Even then it will most likely be bits and pieces and enough to satisfy public curiosity. Some of these details they're hiding I imagine only the perp or someone involved would know. Some of it it also sensitive information that the public doesnt need to know.

Yeah, and besides that we're not even sure THEY know their operational priority given some of the information released recently.

 

[PCHS]

QUOTE: "I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it" <<< considering that would be a 1 to 6 hour surgery depending on the individual patient's circumstance, I doubt that was the case...just saying

Seriously it is honestly just deranged...I mean is it possible sure anything is possibly but it is highly highly illogical and impractical imo

 

[Chainspell]

The camera footage shared yesterday should have shown Nancy returning home in some form, whether walking up to her door or a car driving by to drop her off, but it does not ?

(Snipped for focus) Nancy's garage is pretty far out of way from the front door, you can see it in the image I'm attaching. I think it's highly likely that whoever dropped her off in their car, if they drove up to the garage door, it wouldn't trigger this camera. Not to say it isn't on other cameras, and LE may still be working to recover it, or are holding it back. JMO.

 

[Southhallgal]

Our opinions only: Yes. My son said either the guy changed from those all-white slip-ons with black bottoms to other shoes when he put the backpack on, or that’s a different guy without the backpack in the tennis shoes with black marks on the sides.

I feel like the guy without the backpack has a bit of a bigger belly, but it may just be the same guy looking different without the pull of the pack. I also feel uncertain their ski masks are the same, but it’s hard to tell with the image quality in the one without the backpack.

But I also overall don’t believe this was a one-person job.

I thought the same thing. The build looks totally different. The lantana person is much slimmer.

 

[shonyakay]

It's possible the doorbell camera could have been disconnected by someone already inside her home standing inside the doorway of the home removing it so as not to be seen in front of it at 1:47 a.m.

Then let's say he exited through the back door at some point either smashing and/or retrieving all cameras and then came around the front to retrieve the doorbell one. The sensor told LE someone was on camera at 2:12 a.m. but they didn't know if it was a person or an animal. Now they know it was lantana man.

 

[moonglow123]

Yeah, I feel like I'm out of useful speculation.

The perp doesn't seem very smart so it's shocking he's managed to evade investigators for this long.

If it was someone connected to her in any way, I don't think it would take two weeks to narrow it down. Maybe it really was someone totally random that became aware of her through the Tucson Home segment and targeted her for money or darker reasons.

Poor Nancy.

 

[pixiepixel]

It's my recollection that last week the sheriff said unless there were new developments, he wouldn't hold another press conference until Thursday (today). But I've also seen a tweet that the sheriff is not planning to do any interviews/updates today. Is that correct?

 

[Southhallgal]

To your point, it is interesting that LE has not ruled out family members. I think there could be different reasons for this, including keeping the perps more comfortable.

But, I also think that family had access to NG's home, etc. and it doesn't mean they weren't involved in some way shape or form. JMO. Just not sure it's clear in either direction at this point, other than nothing LE has indicated would say that the family WAS involved

It's day 12. I would think they could have cleared the family by now. It's very interesting....

 

[txsleuth70]

appreciate the photogrammetry effort, but this is a distorted image we're working with. you can see how distorted by looking at how curved the grid of tiles appears. makes it hard to accurately judge height without a carefully calibrated nonlinear mapping. ... which LE may be working on, right now.

Well, yeah. Lebowski. Didn't say trying to be accurate. Just make a best guess. That's all anyone can do here

 

[Han]

(Snipped for focus) Nancy's garage is pretty far out of way from the front door, you can see it in the image I'm attaching. I think it's highly likely that whoever dropped her off in their car, if they drove up to the garage door, it wouldn't trigger this camera. Not to say it isn't on other cameras, and LE may still be working to recover it, or are holding it back. JMO.

Thank you! Hope everyone notices the location of the garage around the corner from the front door.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

It's my recollection that last week the sheriff said unless there were new developments, he wouldn't hold another press conference until Thursday (today). But I've also seen a tweet that the sheriff is not planning to do any interviews/updates today. Is that correct?

Yes, there was a post earlier that said nothing was planned.

 

[SlimPickens]

IMO there is also hyperfocusing on things that are just extremely extremely unlikely which do more harm then good..jmo

As in most cases with little information or data at the public's disposal, there tends to be hyperfocusing on some things that may in fact ultimately be trivial. But this isn't necessarily one of those things, IMO.

We don't even know if he took the camera with him or even was the person that took it down. But he certainly knew he was on camera.

 

[pulchra73]

I may have missed that then. From what I’ve seen publicly, I haven’t come across confirmation of her physical arrival, just device data. If there’s a source, I’d appreciate it.

Her phone, hearing aids, garage opening and closing, pacemaker attached to her app. I'm pretty sure there are also signs she was in bed, had her pj's on etc otherwise the LE would say it didn't look like she went home.

 

[IceIce9]

Perhaps it depends where in the world you live, I know and worked with deaf people, children to adult and only one person has two because shes deaf in both ears, so both can be true

Occupational hearing loss is often in one ear only. Age related hearing loss (presbycusis) is usually in both ears but is seldom identical. Most people who experience hearing loss have one ear that is their “good” ear even if experiencing some degree of hearing loss in that ear. Usually they will use a hearing aid in only the ear that has the larger degree of hearing loss, although some people do prefer hearing aids in both ears. Individual preference.

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

I would suspect it is probably a troll, but if I am Savannah, 1 bitcoin would be like a drop in the bucket. I would pay on the off chance it may be legit (as small a % of a chance that may be). MOO

Here’s HARVEY:

Discussing the 2nd email from the person wanting the single bitcoin to rat out the kidnapper.

 

[birdbox]

Eyes look like possible mascara or could it be a woman's silicone mask under the knitted face mask ?
Why is the FBI so sure it's a male?
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Because in all things, we tend to look at probability and not possibility. Its possible a Chinese operative is behind this, but not probable. Authorities have to focus in many caees on what is probable, because the possibilities are endless. So, what's probable? Most violent crimes committed by males. Less than .01 of .01% of these types of violent kidnappings would be perpetrated by a female. What else is probable? Usually people who know the victim in some capacity either directly or indirectly. Being the mom of a famous person who has had some media coverage skews this data slightly in that one could argue shes "known" by more people. So, again, in short, looking at data, a female perpetrator would be less probable to a point where it may jot be considered unless there were obvious or some other striking female feature.

 

[Notthisshipsister]

Could the perp be a new driver? Someone with not much experience on the road. Hence why he’s going so slow.

Or maybe had the mask(s) on and couldn't see well? Maybe driving slowly so as not to attract attention to himself, should LE be around on traffic patrol?

 

[SweetVirginia]

Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.

Ýes, a pacemaker is surgically implanted under the skin in the chest area and then attached to the heart via electrical wires (This is my brief layman’s description. Lol). However, I see no reason for the abductor(s) to remove it unless they thought a pacemaker has GPS capabilities. Which they don’t (at least my own pacemaker does not). I have an app installed on my phone that can remotely send reports to my doctor, but only if I’m relatively close to my device. Her smart watch was reportedly found at her home, so unless they also took her phone or other device which synced with her pacemaker, there would be no need to remove the pacemaker from under her skin. Hope this makes sense. Again, unless the perpetrators don’t understand that about pacemakers. MOO