AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shadowsc]

I can't say I have heard of this news site before (not saying it is not relevant or correct). But this is the first time I have seen mention of the smartwatch being at the foot of the bed.

I hadn't seen that either, just that it wasn't a typical location (like on a nightstand, or on its charger). It that leaked, that's a media person leaking again. I doubt LE leaked that.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Here's a thought ... what if LE KNOW and they also know the 'struggle' or evidence a crime happened at Nancy's house ... was staged ?
Who stands to gain from Nancy being gone ?

What if they know she was not returned back home because with a cane she may not have opened/closed her door that quickly ?
What if they know her car was used and brought back by someone who had no problem opening/closing the garage door in under a minute or two ?

Am hoping very much that LE are figuratively miles ahead of us, because it doesn't look that way right now, just an opinion.
They've been reticent in the past about letting the public know much, understandable, and I have to assume that the release of that doorbell/cam footage was intentional to make the perp(s) sweat.
Omo.

If they KNOW this, then the guilty party would be pretty obvious presumably. Ransom notes would likely not be taken seriously. Random delivery men would not be detained. I don't know. IMO it feels like a stretch to think family was involved especially if they had the sort of information you are asking about.

 

[Luna20]

The pulse generator is just under the skin on the left side of the chest just beneath the collar bone. It's easily visible. Not that I think anyone removed it, but it wouldn't be difficult. IMO

You still have to cut through the skin to remove it. Depending on what would be used to remove it, it would be bloody.

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022026011983093766

 

[scandiamerican]

Does both of these pictures look like the same person to you all? Apparenlty, Meghan Kelly was saying this onelooks like the person is wearing a different jacket, and that it's camo. It's too blurry for me to be sure of that. What do you all think?

View attachment 644212

Images show masked person on Nancy Guthrie's porch the night she went missing

Authorities investigating the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie released the first surveillance images Tuesday, showing a masked person on her porch the night she went missing.

www.pbs.org

I tried enhancing the image various ways yesterday, and it also struck me that it does look like camo with that, BUT that appearance of a pattern can also just be noise from the camera images taken in the dark.

 

[rosiebean]

Her phone, hearing aids, garage opening and closing, pacemaker attached to her app. I'm pretty sure there are also signs she was in bed, had her pj's on etc otherwise the LE would say it didn't look like she went home.

Add to that her Apple Watch, which can track when it is take off of the wearer (it stops tracking certain health data and activity metrics for example). We know the location of many of her devices can be tracked, though I've seen conjecture that her things were take from her outside of her home and staged at home. IF there was staging in that manner, the Apple Watch would data would show that IMO.

 

[Sessiebo]

“The note also referenced two specific details inside the Guthrie home: a white smartwatch at the foot of a bed and a white backyard floodlight that the sender claimed was destroyed.”

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/bitcoin-nancy-guthrie-ransom-note/2026/02/11/id/1245686/

That's very specific information

 

[Tugb0ats]

Her phone, hearing aids, garage opening and closing, pacemaker attached to her app. I'm pretty sure there are also signs she was in bed, had her pj's on etc otherwise the LE would say it didn't look like she went home.

I understand the garage logs and device data are strong indicators she was home. But those are still indirect indicators. A garage opening doesn’t automatically confirm who triggered it. Phones and watches can show location without proving who physically had them. The pacemaker data makes it harder to dispute, I’ll admit that. I’m not saying this is the most likely scenario, I’m saying it’s not impossible. This is a sleuthing forum, and I think it’s fair to explore alternative possibilities when the timeline still clearly has gaps.

 

[cherryleaf]

Yeah, and besides that we're not even sure THEY know their operational priority given some of the information released recently.

Honestly I get what you’re saying. I’m trying to kinda cut these guys some slack because but it’s been a bit difficult. I do suspect that they are all Exhausted and tired and frustrated and overwhelmed and grouchy, etc. They know eyes are on them and it’s gotta be doing a number on some of them that they don’t have NG back or anyone in custody. Egotistical finger pointing and infighting is probably happening as well.

 

[penguinface]

It certainly has been interpreted that way by most, so I don't have any issues with that potential motive. I sway back and forth. But we can't dismiss those kinds of actions as irrelevant or trivial and stop talking about them if we aren't absolutely certain that's why he did it, and when those specific actions can and do have other meanings and intentions.

JMO.

I think that if it was intended as some symbolic gesture or as “insider knowledge” to prove that he’s the guy when communicating with LE or the family, he’d want to make sure that it was seen by leaving the camera there, connected to the system, rather than taking the effort he took to both disable the camera and later remove it entirely.

JMO

 

[VegasGirl35]

Here's a thought ... what if LE KNOW and they also know the 'struggle' or evidence a crime happened at Nancy's house ... was staged ?
Who stands to gain from Nancy being gone ?

What if they know she was not returned back home because with a cane she may not have opened/closed her door that quickly ?
What if they know her car was used and brought back by someone who had no problem opening/closing the garage door in under a minute or two ?

Am hoping very much that LE are figuratively miles ahead of us, because it doesn't look that way right now, just an opinion.
They've been reticent in the past about letting the public know much, understandable, and I have to assume that the release of that doorbell/cam footage was intentional to make the perp(s) sweat.
Omo.

How would that explain the pacemaker though? If the pacemaker was syncing with the phone app at 2 a.m., Nancy was clearly home.

 

[meade]

New ideas:

1) Perp used the side of his fist to block camera because he was about to knock on the door when he noticed the camera, so he shifted his fist to quickly block it while he gathered his thoughts (something about the camera surprised him).

2) Perp didn't care that HE was on camera, but still needed it blocked/disabled. Why? To hide video of him leaving. Or video of someone else arriving.

Why hide video of him leaving? Because maybe he was leaving with a dead body that would undermine the kidnapping farce? Or there was some other aspect of the departure that he didn't want on camera?

So maybe he tried to cover it up with a plant, and when that failed, pulled the entire camera off.

Edit. Or he wanted it covered so that when he knocked, NG wouldn't see anything if she checked the camera.

 

[submarine7]

The second message received by TMZ does not make sense. The person claims to be an informant but then issues a threat toward NG if the Bitcoin is not received. WTH?

 

[wibbleflea]

I can't say I have heard of this news site before (not saying it is not relevant or correct). But this is the first time I have seen mention of the smartwatch being at the foot of the bed.

TMZ founder Harvey Levin (who saw the note) said it provided the location of the Apple Watch and that it mentioned the “destroyed” floodlights at the rear of the house. It was during his interview with Chris Cuomo on NewsNation. But this is the first time I’ve seen the location of the watch revealed. I don’t know NewsMax, either.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Nancy Guthrie live updates: Authorities offer identifying details about man seen on Guthrie's porch

Live updates in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home in Arizona.

www.nbcnews.com

<snipped>
Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.

The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

The second message received by TMZ does not make sense. The person claims to be an informant but then issues a threat toward NG if the Bitcoin is not received. WTH?

Yea that note is so weird. His reasoning for needing the bitcoin make no sense as he could get the $50K reward if he went to LE. Apparently he gave his name and his email address in the first note he sent.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

The second message received by TMZ does not make sense. The person claims to be an informant but then issues a threat toward NG if the Bitcoin is not received. WTH?

Where did you read the threat was toward NG? The TMZ video seemed vague to me.

 

[submarine7]

Yea that note is so weird. His reasoning for needing the bitcoin make no sense as he could get the $50K reward if he went to LE. Apparently he gave his name and his email address in the first note he sent.

So they can easily find and charge him with extortion.? Totally insane. Yes, his reasons make no sense.

 

[KonaHonu]

Day twelve, with no description issued to the public of a suspect vehicle. It’s dark in NG’s area but does someone familiar with the area know if there are better lit roads nearby, with cameras? If so, how far away are they?

Source: Google maps and 40+ year Tucson resident.

The main roads around the area are Campbell, River, Skyline, First Avenue, and Orange Grove. Street lighting is very dim everywhere in Pima County. There are laws to protect optical astronomy.

Campbell would have been the closest road to exit the neighborhood from but depending on which way you were heading, you could exit on Camino Miraval to Skyline.

The thing is, all of these intersections have traffic cams. I have not been able to find a live or archive link for these cameras though. I'm sure the SO knows every car that went through those intersections in the early morning hours of 2/1

 

[submarine7]

Where did you read the threat was toward NG? The TMZ video seemed vague to me.

That's an assumption, but what else could he threaten?