Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Fargo]

Does the guy in the NG ring cam video have a hood on his jacket? I have tried to find the video again for ages to no avail.

No.

 

[TIGER0822]

You've got to be kidding me

I hope this is not a repeat of the Brian Kohberger case, where everyone driving a white Hyundai Elantra is considered a suspect!

 

[LAhiker]

Does the guy in the NG ring cam video have a hood on his jacket? I have tried to find the video again for ages to no avail.

Here's one of the videos.

 

[whowy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021943167218794741

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If the found glove is the perp's, looks likely it was tossed out from the passenger side. Maybe someone else was driving?

 

[GoJacks]

The alert was sent out to all users of the Neighbors App within a two-mile radius of Nancy’s home in the Catalina Foothills neighborhood north of Tucson, Arizona.

Nest camera bracket removed from Nancy Guthrie’s house after investigators erect tent to shroud evidence gathering

Investigators have asked for all video footage pertaining to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance covering the month before the 84-year-old went missing.

nypost.com

what does this have to do with what i quoted or asked?

i was asking if 5 miles away considered the same neighborhood (in this area)...

JMO if i drove 5 miles depending on which way I could be in a completely different area, social economic status, etc etc.

 

[FoldInTheCheese]

I originally thought the man on the Ring camera in the neighborhood DID NOT look like the perp from the video, but to be honest upon taking a closer look and with the renewed timing explanation "from" TMZ, I'm not so sure and I think it doesn't have to be the SAME person. MOO

The backpack that the man lifts up is hard to see, but to me there's nothing that explicitly shows that it's NOT the Ozark Trails backpack in the NG Nest video. Unless you can see otherwise?
I also think there's a possibility that this man isn't the one on NG's Nest video but perhaps was an accomplice in with 1+ others (as the FBI has said they are looking into multiple people being involved).
Maybe he gave or took the backpack to/from the person we see in the NG Nest video (who in one of them DOES NOT have the backpack on - it's unclear to me whether that's before or after the other footage and I don't think specific timing of each was released, but let me know if I'm wrong).

Sorry I'm working as well so haven't screenshotted everything but if someone wants to I think that would be helpful to determine either way, or I can look later!
For those curious about route/timing, if you look back two posts of mine I have a screenshot of the route from the Ring camera footage to NG's (and the TMZ article).

IMO it would be a huge coincidence (and very disconcerting!) if two different people with backpacks, etc were out and about in the middle of the night around the same time and fairly close distance. I’m leaning towards both being involved. One approached the door, one was a lookout, driver, etc.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

In his video, Levin said the camera was removed at I think 2.12, not 1.48 or thereabouts as previously has been reported.

He said the footage of the man on the camera was at 2.12am

 

[ldlager]

True, though less likely especially considering the watch was somewhere most people would not keep one. MOO

Hanging by a thread or string from handle of kitchen cupboard….?

 

[cait2007]

A thought came to me and I haven’t seen this idea discussed anywhere else.

What if this whole thing did in fact start as a regular old random robbery/break in? Perhaps the guy knew an old lady lived there but nothing more. Then in the process, the bad guy learned about the “rich and famous” daughter and he pivoted to a stupid spur of the moment kidnap/ransom idea.

Say he comes in, finds Nancy, and starts demanding cash but she doesn’t have any to give him. He has a gun and Nancy panics. What if she says hey don’t hurt me, my daughter is on tv and can get you money. We can work this out.

Then the wheels start turning and this fool thinks hey, I could do a kidnap/ransom and get big $$$ He’s a bumbling fool though and didn’t think any of it through. He has no idea how to contact the family with his ransom demand so he contacts the news.

We’ve discussed this a lot. However, this thread moves so dang quickly.
It seems obvious the crime didn’t start as a kidnap for ransom. It doesn’t make much sense to take someone who is 84yo and has health issues. I don’t think they’ve mentioned that any of her medications had been taken, which would be imperative for keeping her alive. I think she possibly fought back or didn’t give the perp what he wanted— maybe cash or stock transfer. After all, he was with her for 30+ minutes based on the cam footage and pacemaker going out of range. She could’ve succumbed to injuries or died after the perp took her, so that leaves no way to offer proof of life.

 

[TIGER0822]

What if she's in a coma somewhere? No proof she actually walked out the door.

DBM

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Here's one of the videos.

Thank you.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

No.

Thanks. I have just rewatched through the link provided and I do see a hood?

 

[Serononin]

And for a whole month?! It says Jan 1 to Feb 1. Unless that is a typo (which is crazy).

It would make much more sense if it's a typo and they actually want footage starting on Jan 31, but who knows

 

[Der Detektiv]

IMO it would be a huge coincidence (and very disconcerting!) if two different people with backpacks, etc were out and about in the middle of the night around the same time and fairly close distance. I’m leaning towards both being involved. One approached the door, one was a lookout, driver, etc.

It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.

 

[thefragile7393]

I disagree. Just 5 miles south of Nancy's house is one of Tucson's poorest areas

IMO that has nothing to do with any of this

 

[thefragile7393]

It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.

Men with backpacks aren't an uncommon sight anywhere in Tucson. By the U of A, by Pima college, Downtown, pretty much anywhere many men carry backpacks.

 

[Sessiebo]

I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?

FBI offers identifying details about man seen on Nancy Guthrie's porch

Live updates in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home in Arizona.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[nightowl2728]

It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.

I think the two backpacks, in the middle of the night, and not being able to unlock the gate, altogether is most suspicious, but I also agree it could be totally unrelated/related to a different crime.

The fact that FBI has stated that likely multiple people were involved (maybe this guy was an accomplice) and the footage we see from NG's includes a man both with and WITHOUT the backpack also makes this suspicious to me. Where did the backpack go and when? Did an accomplice carry one for himself and take another person's at some point in time?

I posted a bit back about the random video vs. the perp footage, and it hasn't been clear to me if the backpacks are similar or different. The one that the man is hoisting over the gate isn't really identifiable, one way or the other, IMO.

EDIT: I also posted that the time from the location of the random video to NG's house based on the key times is within the realm of possibility, as it's about 15 mins drive. It's also along the route that the gloves were found in terms of the most direct route to/from NG's to the likely location of the random video.

Not saying any of this is conclusive by any means, just saying there are several things to me that seem to line up.

 

[FoldInTheCheese]

Does the guy in the NG ring cam video have a hood on his jacket? I have tried to find the video again for ages to no avail.

I don’t think so

 

[pixiepixel]

A thought came to me and I haven’t seen this idea discussed anywhere else.

What if this whole thing did in fact start as a regular old random robbery/break in? Perhaps the guy knew an old lady lived there but nothing more. Then in the process, the bad guy learned about the “rich and famous” daughter and he pivoted to a stupid spur of the moment kidnap/ransom idea.

Say he comes in, finds Nancy, and starts demanding cash but she doesn’t have any to give him. He has a gun and Nancy panics. What if she says hey don’t hurt me, my daughter is on tv and can get you money. We can work this out.

Then the wheels start turning and this fool thinks hey, I could do a kidnap/ransom and get big $$$ He’s a bumbling fool though and didn’t think any of it through. He has no idea how to contact the family with his ransom demand so he contacts the news.

I have been wondering the same thing! Years ago the famous baseball player Cal Ripken's mother was abducted. Her kidnapper drove her around for a day before finally dropping her back off at home, unharmed. No ransom, no demands, nothing. They still don't know who did it, but a popular theory is that he tried to abduct a random old lady to get some cash, but started freaking out when he saw on the news that he'd abducted the mother of one of Baltimore's most beloved celebrities.

More about that, here: Cal Ripken's mom abducted, now safe