AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Peppery]

I don’t like that it says:

“information leading to the location of Nancy Guthrie and/or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.”

Most rewards I see offered say “safe recovery” or something to that effect. Something that indicates the reward is for an alive person.

I think that’s a good thing. If someone knows something, including if NG is deceased, they might still be enticed to report it.

 

[su5ie]

I honestly believe Nancy died from the fright of being awoken by a masked intruder, prehaps he woke her to open a safe or to see if there was one

He could have been creeping the home first and couldn't find it so decided to awaken a vulnerable elderly lady

A robber can be so light footed that often times people don't realise their homes have been ransacked until they wake to the mess . It depends how deeply you sleep imo

The reason she was not left on the premises is because prehaps he placed a hand over her mouth as he woke her and if she struggled being on blood thinners she may have bled from her gums or nose from force

The sheriff did say the home was evidently left in a way that was disturbed, this prehaps ties in with a home rifled through looking for something.

If she died in the home of a heart attack and the perp touched her or was in close proximity shouting at her he may have been worried about dna transfer so moved her so as not to implicate himself in a homicide

He may have no problem due to morals serving time for breaking and entering and stealing but may have taken umbrage to serving life without parole so hid her

The ransom demand may or may not be the same perp but likely one of the ransom notes may be if a description was given of things only a perp would know , prehaps it was demanded as a deflection rather than a want to extort

I really hope Nancy is found so her family can grieve and gain closure in the future

 

[ogold45]

Um... 60 miles an hour=60 miles in 60 minutes. I'm not a math whiz but, if I'm not mistaken, driving 40mph, you would cover .6 miles per minute so you could cover 5 miles in under10 minutes.

I was joking because people were saying he/she couldn't possibly get from 5 miles away to Nancy's house in 19 minutes.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Sheriff Nanos said there were multiple cameras.

In the official timeline they specifically said "doorbell" camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m.

Yeah, sorry, I should have been more precise about the point I was trying to make.

Earlier, in response to @MassGuy, I said it was unlikely that there is any video from the doorbell camera after the 1:47 AM "disconnect" event on the timeline. I was assuming that the disconnect correlated with the doorbell camera being removed from the mount and disabled or taken out of range, and that after that, it was gone for good. If the newly-revealed timestamps on these images are correct, then I was obviously wrong about that. The doorbell was apparently still on the wall well after 1:47, and was able to upload video during that time.

Given this new information, if it proves true, there are a few scenarios I can think of, some more likely than others.

1. The doorbell camera did disconnect at 1:47, but for a reason unrelated to being removed from the wall. Maybe a wifi jammer or other RF or internet disruption, maybe just random coincidence. At some point after that, it re-connected to the network so that it could upload the images we have seen of the unknown subject. This re-connection could have happened before, during, or after the subject was on the porch. At some point after that, it was physically removed (which we know because we've seen the now-removed empty bracket on the door).
2. The doorbell camera did not disconnect at 1:47, and this was an error on the official timeline. Maybe there were multiple Nest cameras, a different one disconnected, and the notifications were confusing. Or the time was written down wrong. Or the clock was incorrect on whatever device investigators saw the disconnection notification on (assuming a notification is how they knew the camera disconnected; it's possible they got this information via other means).
3. There were multiple "doorbell" cameras, one disconnected at 1:47 and one stayed connected, to capture the images of the subject.
4. The time stamps on the images of the subject are wrong, and those were actually captured before 1:47.

If I had to guess (we see how well this has gone for me so far), I would say it's the first option. But who knows.

I'm sure there are more possibilities, and this is all just my opinion based on the scant information we have. But the most likely scenarios suggest that I was wrong in my prior post, and I apologize for that.

 

[No it’s not]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022079125889114199

Thanks for that post MassGuy! From the FOX video and from another Fox article (see link) one can see exactly where the blood drops seem to end. The crack in the walkway helps to point to the area:

Pictures from: Nancy Guthrie's home swept again as authorities investigate new message

 

[unresolvedmystery]

I think that she didn't survive the first day of the kidnapping. And I also think that it would have to be the work of at least three people. The 2 kidnappers, the driver, and maybe an informant who knew the house or was there. I also think that they probably have a video of him or them taking Nancy out of the house. But it's too sensitive to make public.

I dont think it ever was a kidnapping, I think it was a staged kidnapping to hide a murder.

 

[lonetraveler]

I think he is dumb, but not THAT dumb

Hey, I've seen dumber things happen when a crime is committed.

 

[submarine7]

Taking NG out the front door, bleeding, maybe screaming, fighting, crying could have been a chaotic scene. Could the kidnappers have dropped the glove at the scene, or NG could have grabbed it off the hand of one of the kidnappers.

I don't know the weather in that area. Are there high winds which could have blown a lightweight glove around? Some areas have storms with high winds and light weight objects are all over the vicinity.

Could one of the evidence techs at the crime scene have not secured it in the back of a police van?

IDK I am trying to think of all options since it is so odd to have evidence floating around like this so long after the crime took place.

Don't forget he had a gun. Courage in the face of a gun probably poking into you is not always as brave. I could imagine complete compliance. She was powerless

 

[Emerald1328]

I think that’s a good thing. If someone knows something, including if NG is deceased, they might still be enticed to report it.

Absolutely. Usually that’s not how they come out of the gate with rewards though, so it just concerns me…wondering if they know something. Though I personally don’t think she was alive much longer after being taken out of the house.

 

[Sadi]

I hope that's the case. He really seemed out of his element with any news conferences he gave-and he hasn't had to deal with any massively major news story that is nationwide IMO

I think it’s definitely out of his element too. I’m hopeful that with the increased reward, someone will come forward with information soon.

 

[LAhiker]

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Perp has info that the camera is inactive, but sees the light and gets worried that it's still on. Wants to knock on door, but camera will let NG see him and ruin his ambush. Improvises with flowers to temporary block camera so NG can't see him; NG opens the door blind to the danger.

I agree that the guy knew that the doorbell camera was active due to the light. But I don't think NG would've opened the door to him or to anyone she couldn't see, especially at that time of night. I think the flowers were a crude attempt to shield his face from the camera while he was disabling it. After dealing with the camera, I'm guessing that he either picked the lock, waited for an accomplice who was already in there to let him in, or maybe went around the back to break in.

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

Nancy Guthrie live updates: FBI offers identifying details about man seen on Guthrie's porch

Live updates in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home in Arizona.

www.nbcnews.com

<snipped>
Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.

The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.

I'll admit, I'm watching this thread off and on throughout the day but I've not seen anything about gloves found at the house. A few miles down the road, but not at the Guthrie's house. Which Guthrie house?

 

[meade]

I agree that the guy knew that the doorbell camera was active due to the light. But I don't think NG would've opened the door to him or to anyone she couldn't see, especially at that time of night. I think the flowers were a crude attempt to shield his face from the camera while he was disabling it. After dealing with the camera, I'm guessing that he either picked the lock, waited for an accomplice who was already in there to let him in, or maybe went around the back to break in.

JMO

Unless she recognized his voice...

But yeah I don't know. Trying to adequately explain bizarre behavior is pretty futile.

 

[whowy]

I can’t imagine it’s very likely he would have seen something relevant 5+ miles away. That would be on the complete opposite side of town from me, for example.

Disagree. I think it possible for a vehicle to have been driven a whole 5 miles away from the crime scene.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

I'll admit, I'm watching this thread off and on throughout the day but I've not seen anything about gloves found at the house. A few miles down the road, but not at the Guthrie's house. Which Guthrie house?

NG house. The easiest way to find it is to look through the much more manageable Media, Maps, Timeline thread.

 

[lilyk]

Thank you @MassGuy.

Unless LE can pinpoint that NG hand or face blood is from early AM 2/1, then as I've suggested ^, I wonder if that was blood from an everyday bleed for an 84 year old likely on an anti-coagulent (my suspicion per recent pics).

She could have had a bleed that started when she got out of a car in her driveway - maybe caught her hand on something... or maybe her return from her mailbox where she bumped her had.

Then in this scenario, when she stopped at the door to get in (get keys?), she would have dropped a concentration of blood, likely from her hand. IMO.

The article describes the blood spots that look like donuts with a clear center as blood being mixed with air, meaning it came from her nose or her mouth as a bubble. Like the ring/circle that is left when a soap bubble hits the ground - it's not a solid soap ball. Which I think is a kind way of saying it was a bubble of blood and air coming from her lungs out her mouth or nose, not a primary source of a nose or mouth bleed. The droplets that are solid would come from a cut or tissue damage somewhere where it couldn't mix with air before dropping to the ground. The article also states it doesn't appear there was any attempt to stop the bleeding. I have no idea how someone can confidently say the regular non-aerated blood drops were from her hands or face (not mouth or nose) unless they have video of her bleeding from her face or hands. IMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Been saying several times to search the desert - relatively near Tucson (because I doubt the perps went far into the desert). Sad, but that's where a body would be dumped.

Exactly what I think! ^^^ some graphic info below.

I’ve been to southern AZ many times, and the desert is vast, with lots of tumbleweed, short shrubs, cacti, some tall8 ft, mostly around 4-5 ft tall. Very unforgivable land. I would think, it would be very easy to hide a body. The dryness and hot sun, shrinks the DB( sorry), to just bones in less than a month. Unrecognizable, maybe even DNA gone, not sure.

Since this is also an immigrant route, many passing die going through the hot desert. They say there are many bones( sorry, graphic). I think it’s already been in the 80s+ in AZ and it’s just Feb.

All just my opinion.

 

[Sessiebo]

I'll admit, I'm watching this thread off and on throughout the day but I've not seen anything about gloves found at the house. A few miles down the road, but not at the Guthrie's house. Which Guthrie house?

Scroll down in that NBC article then you can find the following text;

"Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.
The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.
The news comes after multiple reports that a nylon glove was found at the home."

Nancy Guthrie live updates: FBI offers identifying details about man seen on Guthrie's porch

Live updates in the search for Nancy Guthrie, the mother of "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie, who disappeared from her home in Arizona.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Sherlock77]

Was the black glove found on the side of the road leading towards NG’s house or away from it? If away (ie. car was driving on that side of the road away from the house after crime was committed), it might suggest someone was in the passenger seat tossing it out their window. Seems less likely the driver would have flung it out the passenger window. So while the prevailing assumption may be that there were at least 2 people involved, this may just sort of support that idea somewhat, if the glove was on the side of the road leading away from the house. OTOH if the glove was on the side of the road leading towards the house, then possibly the driver, as they were fleeing the scene, flung it out their window across the road…there wouldn’t have been any traffic at that time of night. This wouldn’t disprove a second person in the vehicle but it wouldn’t support it either. I know other pieces of evidence have supposedly been found and I don’t know anything about their locations relative to the road. Of course all this assumes that the driver didn’t stop the car for them or someone else to get out and place the glove there, and that the glove is actually related to this case. JMO

 

[snoopy100]

Quoting myself: “When I think foot of the bed I think a bench. How many people have a dresser 3 or more feet away from the foot of the bed”?

How many women who wear Apple Watches charge the watch on the dresser near other jewelry? Nightstand top is cramped up with lamp, cellphone, landline, book, glass of water etc.. Foot of the bed is odd to me because I can’t see anyone using a bench to charge electronics? What else could be at the foot of the bed beside a dresser? If it was a dresser where NG charged her phone why say foot of the bed?

where are you getting foot of the bed? too many pages for me to go back and find that info now, i'm sorry. but would love a link if there is one.

personal anecdote, my dad charges his phone downstairs from the bedroom in the kitchen. maybe nancy charges it in the kitchen? or by the front door? somewhere that she would remember to put it on in the morning before she leaves the house.

but if foot of the bed has been confirmed somewhere, ignore me.