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Talks of a 2 am search and his reasoning being they may be tracking a device path.
 

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I think they blurred his face because he has not been identified as having anything to do with the crime. His presence in the area and the backpacks might just be a coincidence.

I find it odd though there just happened to be a guy casually wandering around the area carrying two backpacks at 2 in the morning...

As always, JMO

The face is as clear as day....
this guy is certainly going to be contacted as to his intent at that gate in the early morning hours. ............
moo.
 
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a websleuther determined the height about 200 pages ago so...way to go LE (eye roll).

possibly a stupid question but why hasn't the family thrown money into the 'ransom/bitcoin' ask? we know SG at least has the money. and she herself two/three videos ago said "we will pay"...so why not throw some spaghetti money on the wall and see what sticks?

another websleuther said we would all do ANYTHING to get our loved one saved/home/discovered. so why hasn't the guthrie family thrown so much as a dollar at bitcoin/offshore account?/anything these alleged kidnappers have asked for?

my answer - because these are bogus claims/distractions. curious as to what others think.
I wondered the same for the "golden tip" reward money.
Now i understand it may be too much to handle for LE to go through all those tips flooding in already. Imagine if the reward is 1mil 😅
 
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The only problem there is that the Zodiac Killer provided proof of not only who they were but what they had done. This just seems like more scammers and trolls.
Or of BTK and his correspondence with media outlets.
 
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So I just did a google explore search. I did custom dates from 1/1/25 until 1/30/26. The only time her home was searched for was on January 18th, and it was searched 29 times. I am hoping that they were able to find out from where and maybe that is pushing the dates.
In 13 months, her home was only searched for on 1 day - Jan 18th - and it was searched 29 times. Seems quite significant for LE and this case. MOO
 
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5 pm news says reward raised to $100K
Hope Savannah is covering that and not the tax payer. Nothing against NG, but if this had been any average missing person, how much effort would have gone into finding them I wonder.
 
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another websleuther said we would all do ANYTHING to get our loved one saved/home/discovered. so why hasn't the guthrie family thrown so much as a dollar at bitcoin/offshore account?/anything these alleged kidnappers have
I said something similar upthread. I shouldn't judge because I'm sure the Guthries are following the directives of the FBI, but I'm surprised they aren't a little more proactive. When I think of famous cases like Laci Peterson and Elizabeth Smart, the families were front and center. Searching, organizing, doing interviews, press conferences, etc. At this point the ransom demands and threats are irrelevant. Nancy is likely dead and this is a murder case. There's nothing to be lost from being more aggressive. So like you said, why not throw a big sum out there and see what happens?
 
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I still cannot get past the question of WHY? If nothing was stolen; ransom messages probably fake;
then someone or some persons went to a LOT of trouble to kidnap an 84-year old woman with health issues. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
Practice run for a harder crime?
 
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DBM missed current info
 
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The Today Show page is reporting that LE is asking neighbors for doorbell cam footage for the first time. Just now? Really?

The description of the suspect just released by the FBI is pretty vague. Almost a "why bother?"

Feels like a botched investigation.

In the video, did we ever see the person try the doorknob? I don't think so. Word has it that she didn't lock the door. Perp likely knew that.

So many mixed signals. Gloves looked layered and padded. Seems that would be difficult to operate a gun, rob a house, manhandle or kill someone. This person couldn't have acted alone.

Seems that consensus is that the video perp is a novice. I'm not so sure. The impression of layered clothing, gloves, and masks to hide persona seems to have been pretty effective. I also think that the person played with their gait to try to disguise it. Sometimes it looks mincing, sometimes rather masculine.

People say that they were surprised by the camera, but it also looks like they were trying to keep their face away from it originally. All mixed signals.
 
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I still cannot get past the question of WHY? If nothing was stolen; ransom messages probably fake;
then someone or some persons went to a LOT of trouble to kidnap an 84-year old woman with health issues. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
Because she knows them. JMO
 
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I think they blurred his face because he has not been identified as having anything to do with the crime. His presence in the area and the backpacks might just be a coincidence.

I find it odd though there just happened to be a guy casually wandering around the area carrying two backpacks at 2 in the morning...

As always, JMO
Tucson has 500,000 plus population and metro area has 1 million plus (NG lives in the metro area, not the city)
In a city of this size, this is to be expected.

His explanation for the behavior could be innocent. He could have been visiting someone who frequently has a gate unlocked, but then finds it locked. It's actually very, very, very common! Anyone who lives in a gated apartment can attest to this.

Or maybe he frequently takes short cuts through the area and this time it's locked.
 
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Why would a thief enter through the front door? Was the door unlocked? Which door did they exit from? Which door had the blood on it front or back?
We know a suspect was at the front door and disabled the nest cam and that it's likely they took NG out through the front door because of the NG's blood. We don't know that they entered through the front door.

They completely smashed a back outside light so perhaps they went in through the back. MOO
 
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Because she knows them.
Why do you think the ransom notes are not real? Kidnapping for ransom is the most likely answer. And they covered up fully because it was only an abduction, not a murder. So they wouldn’t want her to recognize them and report them after she was released.
 

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