AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I am sorry that you don't keep up with the most recent trends in EV, electric UTV.

https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/electric-vehicles/

Good reminder that they have electric off road vehicles that are very quiet. But wouldn't it be suspicious to see a ATV in the middle of the night - in NG's neighborhood or out somewhere at 2 am in the washes, hills or desert? JMO

 

[stmichael]

I am sorry that you don't keep up with the most recent trends in EV, electric UTV.

https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/electric-vehicles/

Cool. You think the guy with a $5 mismatched holster and a $15 WalMart backpack splurged for an EV Polaris? What are those a few hundred bucks? And then drove it out of the neighborhood that is surrounded by main roads and a hwy with a hostage thrown in the back? I mean her neighborhood isn't on the outskirts of the desert, its nestled within larger roads around it.

 

[MassGuy]

Woefully behind, but I did have a comment. I feel very differently about the FBI and its abilities now than I did in the not so distant past. Perhaps, there was actual reasons behind these decisions, and perhaps, all the negative “leaks” about the Sheriff are being promoted by an overly self-promoting and not so trustworthy current FBI

The messaging is worse (three screwups in the last 3 big cases), but it’s important to remember that the agents on the ground are the same as they’ve always been.

The CAST team, and other specialized teams continue to do their jobs, regardless of who is at the helm.

The noise doesn’t help here, but I don’t think it has any bearing on the FBI getting to the truth.

 

[Friday Fan]

I can't remember what user was familiar with military flight operations/training, but on Monday I believe, when we were tracking the medical helicopter (which turned out to be unrelated..) that user were giving info on what certain planes might be doing in the areas around Tucson: Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24

I'm asking because right now there is a US Army helicopter (GOON93) circling the mountains north of the Catalina Foothills and it was previously circling on some mountains further north of there (it took off from Pinal Airpark, which is public use, not military). It doesn't look like there's much up there other than a small ski resort and they weren't circling that but hiking trails and some canyons (and the furthest right circling is around some old mines up in the mountains).

Could be for a missing hiker or training or anything else, but thought it was interesting that it was military. There's another Army heli that also took off from Pinal but went west and then circled back close to this heli, circling over Tiger AZ, which is another abandoned mine with no roads in.

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Border Patrol was circling mountain tops in that general area last night....
Who knows???? Seems like an odd place due to the elevation and that it's winter but what do I know?

So, the army helicopter in Tucson could be doing border patrol duty near Tucson because an army helicopter is obviously doing it in the Laredo sector.

The US Army was circling areas near Laredo last night and they're at it again tongiht and with this flight path, I'm 99% sure they're doing border surveilance.

There is no military base in Laredo. Also an army helicopter took off from Edinburg, TX from South Texas International Airport there. It is currently surveiling the border.

 

[mpnola]

Genetic genealogy is a very slow process. Can take months. Or longer.

Until @othram

 

[HoveringWombats]

Right!? I thought Google analytics were supposed to be accurate/well done. Plenty of large companies even use this info for decision making.

Just to make sure the record is correct on this: Google Analytics is (mostly) accurate. But it has nothing to do with Google Trends, which is what we're talking about here. They are totally separate, work in different ways, and do different things.

 

[nightowl2728]

Border Patrol was circling mountain tops in that general area last night....
Who knows???? Seems like an odd place due to the elevation and that it's winter but what do I know?

So, the army helicopter in Tucson could be doing border patrol duty near Tucson because the obviously doing it in the Laredo sector.



The US Army was circling areas near Laredo last night and they're at it again tongiht and with this flight path, I'm 99% sure they're doing border surveilance.

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I'm seeing at least 4 separate US Army helicopters on there now that are all circling mountains/canyons/mines/playas around Tucson in all directions, not border patrol labeled and not near the border. Looks interesting for sure. I added a couple more posts on it after my original.

EDIT: For example this one has been circling various mountains/mines north of Tucson for at least the past hour and has currently circled here 5+ times (there are no roads/homes/businesses). If anything, I hope they ARE searching for NG, as they should be. Interesting that it's after dark though.

 

[auburnmomof2]

The military helicopters could be training. I live a few hours from Fort Rucker and close to Fort Benning. Fort Rucker almost always has training helicopters in the area. Just my opinion based on life experience

 

[Mistermagoo]

Something went wrong, and those individuals (I do believe more than one) took the body to hide evidence. Perhaps one of the perpetrators assaulted her in a way that would have caused her to have dna on her and they were savvy enough to realize it, and thought it was easier to take the body.

Very good perspective overall, but this particular part I did not even think of, very possible if it was a robbery gone bad. A few things have been bothering me as I have been thinking about this case. LE has not shared much about what happened, or what they think has happened inside. They have every right not to tell us anything, but so many people think it is a robbery gone wrong, and to your point, maybe something happened and they had to take her. So if it was a robbery they should tell us if there are things missing, tell us to be on the lookout for something. It may help crack the case.

With all of that being said, the fact that not only are they not mentioning things that are missing, they are clearly stating that her phone, watch and personal belongings were left behind, which tells me that they went there to kidnap her and that is what they did, and that is why they are not treating the crime scene as a robbery.

 

[Fargo]

So let's just say the person(s) who drove her home and maybe walked her inside (although LE would have some record of this, no?), and some argument then accident occurred, person panicked. They left the house pretending all was well, went about their business, then middle of the night dressed up and came back to the house to remove the body because they believed the body contained some kind of evidence of their involvement in the crime. Certainly possible. I think unlikely. Unless both of the parties to the earlier evening events were involved, one or the other would be questioning the other's activities by now, right?

SBM. This is one of the theories I've been operating under since LE started spending so much time in AG/TCs neighborhood. Searching, talking to neighbors, asking for video. I think they're trying to pinpoint the movement of cars that night. There's a reason they are so hyper focused on that street and the roads in between. There's also a reason they alerted AB so early. There's something wrong with the initial story. As for why you would move a body? You were the last one to see that person and the first one LE is going to come looking for. People kill their spouses at home all the time and remove their bodies and claim they've "gone missing". We've seen that a hundred times. IMO

 

[RainbowBoogie]

Google Trends and Google Analytics are not the same thing. Google Analytics is not relevant here (it can't be used for this). People are using Google Trends, which is designed to show how the popularity of common search terms varies over time. To my knowledge (MOO, possibly out of date information disclaimers apply), it operates on a sample of search data rather than all data. For example (completely making up the number here), they might decide that they only need to look at 1% of search data to generate trends, because any sufficiently popular search term will still be in those millions of searches, in the right proportions compared to other popular search terms. But if you have an uncommon search term, it's possible or even likely that it won't show up at all in that 1% slice. And maybe it does show in the next 1% slice and it looks like suddenly there's a spike in traffic, when it was roughly the same.

I would not expect the problem to be that it shows searches that didn't happen. I expect that it will miss searches that did happen, but potentially inconsistently, which can show up as spikes and valleys that don't actually exist.

It's also possible that some search term normalization happens (things like spell correction, clustering of similar search terms, etc.) which might cause searches to show up in a trend when you might not expect them to.

Finally, the geolocation stuff is really iffy at small numbers. If all of the searches in that "spike" come from one user who happens to be using a VPN, it's going to be way wrong. This effect generally will cancel out on a common search term with millions of searches.

Bottom line really, without needing to know any technical details of how this works, is that it's not what Google Trends was designed for. Just like any other time we're using something in a way other than what it was designed for, the results might not be what we hope.

JMO, based on a combination of experience, knowledge, and educated guesses. There may be mistakes here. Trust at your own risk.

Incredible answer! Makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain that.

 

[elmomom]

Dbm

 

[simlyme]

not to some on one side unfortunately. All anyone would have to do is google the presidential debate and see the critcism she got. Not my opinion-it is fact she was really lambasted (even though I agree with you that she did well and was neutral), however I'm not linking what can be found easily, so I will say IMO

I 've read hundreds of posts on X , where one {group} says she deserves all of this . I was flabbergasted , yet not .
What evil times we live in.
BRING NANCY HOME !!

 

[BrittMontero]

Woefully behind, but I did have a comment. I feel very differently about the FBI and its abilities now than I did in the not so distant past. Perhaps, there was actual reasons behind these decisions, and perhaps, all the negative “leaks” about the Sheriff are being promoted by an overly self-promoting and not so trustworthy current FBI

Exactly.

 

[Friday Fan]

She moderated a town hall.

Savannah Guthrie Called Controversial Trump Town Hall 1 of the ‘Most High-Pressure Situations You Can Find Yourself In’

Does she lean more Democrat or Republican?

www.yahoo.com

In 2020! That was almost six years ago!!!

 

[farmgirl04]

Quoting myself: “When I think foot of the bed I think a bench. How many people have a dresser 3 or more feet away from the foot of the bed”?

How many women who wear Apple Watches charge the watch on the dresser near other jewelry? Nightstand top is cramped up with lamp, cellphone, landline, book, glass of water etc.. Foot of the bed is odd to me because I can’t see anyone using a bench to charge electronics? What else could be at the foot of the bed beside a dresser? If it was a dresser where NG charged her phone why say foot of the bed?

Maybe an end table near a chair at foot of bed or since she lives alone or even a chair/recliner where she watches tv with a charging port built in. Her bedroom set up might be different than what is considered “standard”. MOO

 

[moxiemom]

In 2020! That was almost six years ago!!!

An elephant never forgets....

 

[MassGuy]

Michael Ruiz (we've seen a million of his tweets) being interviewed right now:

Despite the friction, there's real progress here.

Talking about how the doorbell camera footage being recovered has possibly never been done before.

Also discussing the inconsistency with the sheriff saying he called the FBI, and then saying seconds later that he didn't even have to call them, because they called him.

Former FBI agent talking about how that Florida lab wouldn't have access to CODIS, which will cause a delay once that DNA is processed.

Talking about a glove being found INSIDE the house. I'm not taking this as fact as this point, because of the other gloves that have been found.

Former LE officer talks about how they obviously have evidence if they're able to quickly clear a potential suspect, like we saw with that DoorDash driver.

 

[BrittMontero]

I am sorry that you don't keep up with the most recent trends in EV, electric UTV.

https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/electric-vehicles/

And so what? He slung her across the pommel?

Mrs Guthrie was not abducted onna four-wheeler.

 

[PCHS]

Maybe an end table near a chair at foot of bed or since she lives alone or even a chair/recliner where she watches tv with a charging port built in. Her bedroom set up might be different than what is considered “standard”. MOO

a bench, a footstool, a trunk a table with TV etc. Without context, it is hard to know what is meant by that, it could be something totally reasonable if we saw it or more peculiar, imo.