AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Fargo]

SBM The letters are proven to be written by the perps.

Really? When did that happen? Do you have a link?

 

[gremlin444]

Michael Ruiz (we've seen a million of his tweets) being interviewed right now:

Despite the friction, there's real progress here.

Talking about how the doorbell camera footage being recovered has possibly never been done before.

Also discussing the inconsistency with the sheriff saying he called the FBI, and then saying seconds later that he didn't even have to call them, because they called him.

Former FBI agent talking about how that Florida lab wouldn't have access to CODIS, which will cause a delay once that DNA is processed.

Talking about a glove being found INSIDE the house. I'm not taking this as fact as this point, because of the other gloves that have been found.

Former LE officer talks about how they obviously have evidence if they're able to quickly clear a potential suspect, like we saw with that DoorDash driver.

Line BBM:

Former FBI agent talking about how that Florida lab wouldn't have access to CODIS, which will cause a delay once that DNA is processed.

*blink* And in this digital day and age, just how long is it realistically going to take for the FL lab to transmit the results back to the sheriff's office to upload into CODIS? I can't see it being so long as to be detrimental, at this point.

 

[dkaras]

The letters are proven to be written by the perps. Mostly, with few somewhat unlikely exceptions. I really cannot decide if their ransom attempts were purposefully impossible or they were just clueless on how it should work. Crazy as it is, there's always a price negotiation. However, there's also POL. Idk....this case is wild!

If not ransom and a financial motive, that leaves somebody wanting NG dead. But why? The entire crime feels very personal. It feels like an attack on somebody other than NG. But, it could be anybody or anything. People can stew on perceived wrongs, jealousy, and delights forever and then unexpectedly exact revenge.

Thank you! I missed that the letters were proven to be written by the perps. I thought still under investigation.

WRT your second paragraph, "that leaves somebody wanting NG dead", I also think the crime "seems" personal but I cannot think of the "why" obviously just given what I've heard about the family. And no indication that any of the notes said anything personal TOWARDS the family. NG by all public accounts seemed like a lovely woman, SG isn't overly political or rude or dramatic, no known other family issues. (Key being "known"). MAKES NO SENSE!! for her to be a target. Other than a robbery for some currently unknown reason and accident that led to her death. IMO....

 

[LRinCA]

What have they been saying, for example? I can’t even imagine.

I feel like I'm on shaky ground with this type of subject so I'm trying to find the best way to convey. I'm going to use this article that first appeared in the Arizona Republic to try to illustrate. I get the impression there are many people on Twitter/X who are aware of NG's views on certain subjects and there is a level of ire regarding this. I hope this makes sense and at the same time doesn't violate any rules in place for this thread.

Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts include Christmas pajamas and bobcats

Nancy Guthrie's public Facebook profile shows a proud mother and grandmother who hopes for a better world.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Friday Fan]

UH-72 Lakotas are owned by the National Guard for the sole purpose of supporting a state mission. For Arizona it's most likely counter-drug and border surveillance. These are routine flights for them.

I meant to reply to the original poster***

In Texas, they are assisting border patrol.

https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/State-Partnership-Program/Article/577188/national-guard-helicopters-supporting-us-mexico-border-mission/

 

[Bodhi]

Google Trends and Google Analytics are not the same thing. Google Analytics is not relevant here (it can't be used for this). People are using Google Trends, which is designed to show how the popularity of common search terms varies over time. To my knowledge (MOO, possibly out of date information disclaimers apply), it operates on a sample of search traffic rather than all traffic. For example (completely making up the number here), they might decide that they only need to look at 1% of search traffic to generate trends, because any sufficiently popular search term will still be in those millions of searches, in the right proportions compared to other popular search terms. But if you have an uncommon search term, it's possible or even likely that it won't show up at all in that 1% slice. And maybe it does show in the next 1% slice and it looks like suddenly there's a spike in traffic, when it was roughly the same.

I would not expect the problem to be that it shows searches that didn't happen. I expect that it will miss searches that did happen, but potentially inconsistently, which can show up as spikes and valleys that don't actually exist.

It's also possible that some search term normalization happens (things like spell correction, clustering of similar search terms, etc.) which might cause searches to show up in a trend when you might not expect them to.

Finally, the geolocation stuff is really iffy at small numbers. If all of the searches in that "spike" come from one user who happens to be using a VPN, it's going to be way wrong. This effect generally will cancel out on a common search term with millions of searches.

Bottom line really, without needing to know any technical details of how this works, is that it's not what Google Trends was designed for. Just like any other time we're using something in a way other than what it was designed for, the results might not be what we hope.

JMO, based on a combination of experience, knowledge, and educated guesses. There may be mistakes here. Trust at your own risk.

I appreciate learning how this works. I was skeptical whether data on Google searches conducted days prior to recent homicides in Minneapolis and Columbus was meaningful. You explained in a way easy to understand what the tool is designed to do and why extrapolating from results for other purposes might be unreliable. Thank you!

 

[Han]

Many differing explanations for Nancy’s disappearance. Bottom line, are the Sheriff and the FBI at odds as to what happened here with the Feds leaning toward kidnapping. Does the Sheriff explain the disappearance differently? He has not shown much urgency. IMO

 

[Desperate Howswif Detec]

This is an actual career field. You should inquire with your state bureau of investigation about their requirements.

 

[AggieLou]

5’9”- 5’10” is above average male height in the United States. I figured the Somalia angle was just xenophobia and I really wanted to be wrong.

Be careful who you imply is xenophobic as most on here are not aquainted. And FYI Somali men are among the tallest in Africa, 6ft isnt rare. LE never mentioned race of the person on camera. And no one knows if those searches were actually from where they were showing or using a foreign vpn.

 

[ArabianLover]

I really don’t understand why typical procedures haven’t been followed here. Normally LE investigates the family first, gets them eliminated, then expands the circle. Is he star struck? (No offense) Is he just blindly believing their stories without corroborating? Just because of who they are? This would be a mistake.

We’re on day 12 now. The old rule is they need to find someone within 48hrs or the chances of finding them alive drop substantially.

This going back time & time again to search these homes just feels like incompetence to me. Why not seize the properties for 24-36hrs, get everyone out, search & run every test they need to run? Then release them back to the family.

This allowing people to tromp all over these homes, live in them, etc., while they repeat searches after the crime scene is contaminated seems somewhat useless.

I’m not saying the family has done anything. But they should have ELIMINATED all of that doubt right out of the gate.

Now it seems we have a war of egos going on. What a mess.

 

[Kemug]

Under any circumstances, LE MUST check that guy out. He may or may not have anything to do with the "Keystone Kidnapper" on NG's front porch.

But even if he is ultimately determined to be completely unrelated to the goings-on at NG's the night of Jan 31/February 1, if LE does not investigate him and eliminate him based on good evidence, a defense attorney in a court of law would have a heyday pointing out this video of a suspicious person in the neighborhood that night.

Yes if a man like that is seen at my door in the middle of the night, I would want him found, arrested, interrogated and whatever. No way is he not guilty of something!

 

[PaulaDC]

Is it Illegal to Throw Food Out of My Car?

It’s common knowledge that certain food scraps make good additions to your backyard compost bin, but those principles don't apply to the roadside.

takecareoftexas.org

"Throwing food scraps out of your vehicle does more harm than good."

FYI.

Oh jeez.....bless me Father for I have sinned.....

 

[Fargo]

I feel like I'm on shaky ground with this type of subject so I'm trying to find the best way to convey. I'm going to use this article that first appeared in the Arizona Republic to try to illustrate. I get the impression there are many people on Twitter/X who are aware of NG's views on certain subjects and there is a level of ire regarding this. I hope this makes sense and at the same time doesn't violate any rules in place for this thread.

Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts include Christmas pajamas and bobcats

Nancy Guthrie's public Facebook profile shows a proud mother and grandmother who hopes for a better world.

www.yahoo.com

Well damn, if that's all she did I need to get a state of the art security system and some bodyguards. IMO

 

[simlyme]

I feel like I'm on shaky ground with this type of subject so I'm trying to find the best way to convey. I'm going to use this article that first appeared in the Arizona Republic to try to illustrate. I get the impression there are many people on Twitter/X who are aware of NG's views on certain subjects and there is a level of ire regarding this. I hope this makes sense and at the same time doesn't violate any rules in place for this thread.

Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts include Christmas pajamas and bobcats

Nancy Guthrie's public Facebook profile shows a proud mother and grandmother who hopes for a better world.

www.yahoo.com

I hate we have to go around this topic, because I find it very relevant to what happened to Nancy . But yes , the article is spot on.

 

[crhedBngr]

Regarding searches from Malwaki and then Somalia, is it possible NG was contributing to charitable organizations there?

Maybe some people were wondering who was the lady who kindly contributed to these organizations.

Just a thought.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Yeah the gray truck was mentioned this morning when talking with neighbors. So many dead ends though, I’m not getting my hopes up that this will lead to anything, unfortunately. Really not reassuring seeing that the Sheriff and Feds are fighting

Thanks! I didn’t realize it was mentioned much earlier! Hard to catch up at the end of a day.

 

[MassGuy]

Line BBM:

Former FBI agent talking about how that Florida lab wouldn't have access to CODIS, which will cause a delay once that DNA is processed.

*blink* And in this digital day and age, just how long is it realistically going to take for the FL lab to transmit the results back to the sheriff's office to upload into CODIS? I can't see it being so long as to be detrimental, at this point.

Apparently there's a review process, which can take between 12-24 hours (I'd assume lower end for this).

By doing it this way and factoring in all the steps and the time it would take Quantico vs private lab, it looks like you're talking about the FBI route (testing/codis) being twice as fast.

But you're right, at the end of the day it probably doesn't matter much.

 

[VegasGirl35]

And if they weren't motivated by money, well... the, n that's even more concerning.

I agree. If the ransom was a red herring, than what was their motive? What made Nancy such a desirable target they're willing to risk life in prison? Who could've an 84 year-old pissed off that badly she'd be the victim of a revenge murder? Or does someone in the family have enemies that they're not disclosing to police?

 

[Murder She Wrote]

Have you seen that video from Ring Neighbors?

Ring Neighbors

neighbors.ring.com

That man looks similar to the POI in the videos released by LE imo.

Spotted by a neighbor's camera in Tucson on 01/23/26:
"This guy appeared in front yard about 3:30 am and then returned about 5:00 am. My dogs went crazy barking and thankfully spooked him away. I didn’t answer the door. Anyone else see him in area of 6th between Campbell and Tucson blvd?"

 

[Han]

I feel like I'm on shaky ground with this type of subject so I'm trying to find the best way to convey. I'm going to use this article that first appeared in the Arizona Republic to try to illustrate. I get the impression there are many people on Twitter/X who are aware of NG's views on certain subjects and there is a level of ire regarding this. I hope this makes sense and at the same time doesn't violate any rules in place for this thread.

Nancy Guthrie's Facebook posts include Christmas pajamas and bobcats

Nancy Guthrie's public Facebook profile shows a proud mother and grandmother who hopes for a better world.

www.yahoo.com

Question is, did Savannah make a plea just for her family or for the nation/world?

“I'm coming on just to ask you, not just for your prayers, but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson,” Guthrie says. “If you see anything, you hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange to you, that you report to law enforcement. We are at an hour of desperation. And we need your help.”