AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

This is way beyond frustrating. What is earth is “quality control”, and how long does it take?? The last I heard was up to 24 hours. That glove went out days ago.
Argh…

I thought the 24 hours included the "quality control" and it's been way past 24 hours. JMO

 

[Van Helsing]

NEW: "Unnecessary delays" in getting DNA from glove in Nancy Guthrie case into FBI database --

The decision to send the glove with DNA to a private lab in Florida is causing what one source familiar with the case calls “unnecessary delays” in getting the DNA entered into the FBI’s CODIS database.

That’s because the FBI does not accept DNA submissions directly from private labs. Instead, once testing is complete in Florida, it’s likely the DNA data extracted must first be sent back to the state system in Arizona where it can be uploaded and becomes shareable with the FBI for entry into CODIS.

That extra step adds time creating what the source describes as a “catch-up” process when the FBI could have processed and entered the data within a day, according to the source.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023570698019479692

Lord. It looks almost as if the sheriff is stalling the investigation. It's like referees in college basketball. Is it corruption or just incompetence? There's no way for us to know for sure.

 

[maamager]

Agree. She had a source that she trusted who gave her the information she reported. Everybody was still a suspect at that time, and also at that time, LE was conducting searches in the property near that family member as well as in that family member's house. It's plausible that she was given correct information at that moment but then things changed somewhat rapidly.

It's got to be hard to be a media person who has to make decisions in the moment as to what is true and to be trusted, and what needs much more investigation before reporting on it.

JMO

i disagree with all the respect i have. AB did something very very foolish in the name of being the first to break the hot story — that’s no better than some of the more salacious tabloids we come across. journalism in these spaces have got to do better. these are real people going through the worst time of their lives.

not attacking you or op, just my opinion

 

[Ladyotm]

My family member is a locksmith - recently he had to sort out the locks on behalf of the police for a victim of crime. The reason the elderly couple had a home invasion is because their carer (woman) provided information to the criminals.

Something happened in my hometown years ago. An elderly man's CNA told others "he had money". They broke in to rob him and killed him. I can't recall if she shared it in casual conversation or as part of a set up.

 

[shonyakay]

NEW: "Unnecessary delays" in getting DNA from glove in Nancy Guthrie case into FBI database --

The decision to send the glove with DNA to a private lab in Florida is causing what one source familiar with the case calls “unnecessary delays” in getting the DNA entered into the FBI’s CODIS database.

That’s because the FBI does not accept DNA submissions directly from private labs. Instead, once testing is complete in Florida, it’s likely the DNA data extracted must first be sent back to the state system in Arizona where it can be uploaded and becomes shareable with the FBI for entry into CODIS.

That extra step adds time creating what the source describes as a “catch-up” process when the FBI could have processed and entered the data within a day, according to the source.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023570698019479692

You know all of those conspiracy theories are going to be swirling now. Ugh.

 

[mikenikes]

The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.

i agree. Not complaining at all I want to see this solved. But I do wonder if it's because of how heinous this was. Clearly a planned abduction. I know the guy they got on video seemed amateur, but I do wonder if he had one job which was to look for a camera and remove it. And clearly they're not amateurs because a million fbi agents are investigating and have not been successful yet.

Savannah looked rough yesterday. This whole thing is so damn sad I cannot even fathom if this was my mother. I think I'd be catatonic. I truly think that is also why so much is going into this and the whole world is caring about it. Not out of morbid curiosity but because we truly want justice and answers for the poor family. I cannot imagine if it goes unsolved… how does the family survive? I know even if it does get solved it is still horrible but having no closure would be truly unimaginable.

 

[EyeCandy]

so another move by the sheriff that seems so odd

 

[BellaToothless]

Someone posted photos of the Subaru from when it was being towed earlier. It looks like there’s some previous damage to the front end of the car.

Yes it does look damaged.

 

[submarine7]

Do you have a source for this pls?

Second Nancy Guthrie Ransom Note Demands Payment for Kidnapper’s Identity

TMZ has received another email from the person who claims to know the identity of Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper ... and the words are chilling.

www.tmz.com

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Do you have a source for this pls?

These TMZ ransom notes (4 now) have been pretty widely discussed here. Is it necessary to re-source every time they are mentioned? Is there some point where it’s considered general knowledge for posting purposes? TIA for any guidance on that.

 

[bettyboop]

Hello. I'm following along , and I watched Brian Entin on News Nation and he did a tour of NG's neighborhood which I thought was very well done.

 

[stmichael]

OK I'll respect the forum's rules of "no links to Nanos and politicizing not allowed" anymore (apparently Nanos links are deleted) but just want to say this:

He is an elected political figure and backed by a political party.

He's also had a direct history and public statements about his beef w/ the FBI which is directly pertinent to their current relationship on the case.

I see that as important context to current mechanisms of the investigation on this case and not a as
"politicizing" but ok.

 

[SlimPickens]

I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..

(FWIW, I used to sell shoes)

The first thing that I thought when seeing him in motion is that he was wearing only socks because it looked like I could make out his toes moving. Someone else mentioned that as well. I thought to myself at the time that that was pretty smart on his part if that was the case, because a sock seems like it would be a good buffer between leaving a footprint or shoe print.

In any case, your pictures do look like he is wearing a shoe, so not a bad idea to discern whether he is or is not, and if so the make and model.

JMO.

 

[Bluewing3102]

OMG people- NG's car WAS NOT damaged.
It was a glare hitting the body lines of the car.
This rumor is snowballing on this thread.

Please watch this link at 2:45

 

[EyeCandy]

Nancy Guthrie investigators eye fresh doorbell cam footage of man with goatee lurking near neighbor’s home

A new video has surfaced in the search for Nancy Guthrie’s abductor, which shows a man with a goatee lurking outside a Tucson house one week before she was taken.

nypost.com

Pic 3 .. the rounded back as the guy goes off this porch IMHO looks familiar

Granted it is 6.5 miles away but it is also a week away so a person looking to rob someone or could easily get that far within a week

 

[Van Helsing]

I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..

(FWIW, I used to sell shoes)
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In some pictures it looks like the shoes are totally covered by fabric, like they are incorporated in the pants or separate shoe covers. But, In that last picture it looks like the the soles are visible.

 

[submarine7]

These TMZ ransom notes (4 now) have been pretty widely discussed here. Is it necessary to re-source every time they are mentioned? Is there some point where it’s considered general knowledge for posting purposes? TIA for any guidance on that.

I provided a source but I was thinking it would really clean up things if we didn't have to cite or source the same things repeatedly?

 

[TheDinks]

I’m surprised we have any information as to whether or not the DNA has been entered into CODIS. I’m not used to LE sharing a blow by blow of their investigation. Sure, if they need footage from residents’ cameras, or have identified someone that they need to speak to and ask for the public’s help, I can see them putting out a request.

Did they find DNA at the house that would absolutely be tied to the crime? In order to clear the family, would you have to be positive that no one connected to a family member is a suspect? I understand that WS is a victim friendly site and family members should be treated as victims. I’m just trying to understand the elimination of all family members while there still appears to be no profile of who did this.

It was only stated Siblings and spouses...

So this doesn't include say, a niece just for example, a bit farther removed from immediate family.

 

[Luna20]

This is way beyond frustrating. What is earth is “quality control”, and how long does it take?? The last I heard was up to 24 hours. That glove went out days ago.
Argh…

I’m hoping to hear some details about DNA from the guest who is on Tricia’s podcast tonight. 8:30CST

The dna details have been too choppy for me to understand. It seems we are getting two narratives on it.

 

[birdbox]

I still don't understand why DNA testing from a roadside glove is eliciting regular updates to the public.

It will be the biggest let down if it doesnt yield something.