Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SherryLock]

LG is largely assumed to be male but that doesn't completely rule out the possibility of LG actually being female. And of course there's also the possibility that LG didn't act alone. Which makes me wonder about KD, who I believe is in jail now on other charges. She also may be LD's girlfriend and may be distantly related to the Guthries. (I'm not sure what's been verified and what hasn't).

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[stmichael]

I looked it up and Google says all radio communications including gps, wifi, and cellular service. That's interesting.

Yep. "Signal" jammers.

Multiband WiFi and cellular jammers are illegal, high-power devices designed to disrupt communication by emitting signals stronger than cellular towers, Wi-Fi routers, or GPS satellites

They are typically more bulky that anything seen on Latanas man (what some have seen as a walki?)


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[submarine7]

I know this thread is 2000+ pages but yes, this has been dissected over and over and yes, there are a lot of strange mannerisms/choices in it.

Also note that he is carrying what appears to be a semi auto that is almost falling out of a mismatched pistol holster. (may not be an actual live firearm, no way to know).

The Walmart exclusive backpack also had reflective strips on it which are notorious for glowing on IR (night cams). Some have speculated it was his "kit" - an assembly of abduction tools; zip ties, duct tape, tarp or plastic sheathing, rope, etc.

The bite light was additionally interesting because he used an approximation of DNA covering PPE (gloves, etc.) but then used a saliva DNA transferring bite light (yeesh!).

I agree his handling of the camera was very fumbled, as you suggest there would be a more direct way to deal with it. Indeed the footage offered up plenty of odd details.

I know little about guns but would a silencer fitted on it make it too large for its holster?

 

[vereb]

DBM

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Going back to the video of the perp.
Who brings a full backpack to a robbery? NO ONE....
Have you ever bent over with a heavy backpack? It throws off your balance to a degree. The perp had no issues bending over for the lantana. My assumption is the backpack was filled with lighter "stuff". No bulges to suggest otherwise. He's already carrying a gun. No need for weapons in the pack. Clothing or sheets, perhaps?

That bite light is also interesting. I've only seen electricians working in the dark use these. Mechanics trying to use both hands. Plumbers in cramped spaces.

Btw, if you don't want to be caught on camera, why approach it with a semi closed fist? Wouldn't you splay your palm open?

Agree the backpack was filled with light items such as tarps. JMO

 

[FaviousM]

They are typically more bulky that anything seen on Latanas man (what some have seen as a walki?)

Plenty of examples online of ones that are about the same size as a walkie talkie, certainly pocketable

Here's one with a 15-20m range I found with a quick Google Portable Cellphone + Wifi Jammer J-240A-Pro - jammer4uk

 

[LakeRat55]

I looked it up and Google says all radio communications including gps, wifi, and cellular service. That's interesting.

That would only be a huge, powerful, wide-spectrum military grade device, not something obtainable to an individual and carried in a pocket. The use, sale and import of any 'jammer' is prohibited by US law.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

What’s the garbage situation-do trash collectors go to the enclosure or does it have to be put out on the curb (assuming someone would handle for Nancy). Anyone watch Task on HBO? The garbage collectors use their routes to identify and rob drug dealers. Things went horribly unexpected and wrong on the show while they were committing their crimes.

In Tucson, the garbage cans must be taken to the street. JMO

 

[stmichael]

Plenty of examples online of ones that are about the same size as a walkie talkie, certainly pocketable

Here's one with a 15-20m range I found with a quick Google Portable Cellphone + Wifi Jammer J-240A-Pro - jammer4uk

Yep. I said typically. The smaller temu jammers are less effective. The ones you generally see in commission of home invasions are the ones I posted. Those are more typical because they are more effective. Who knows what Mr. $5 mismatched holster went with.

 

[pitbull]

I know this thread is 2000+ pages but yes, this has been dissected over and over and yes, there are a lot of strange mannerisms/choices in it.

Also note that he is carrying what appears to be a semi auto that is almost falling out of a mismatched pistol holster. (may not be an actual live firearm, no way to know).

The Walmart exclusive backpack also had reflective strips on it which are notorious for glowing on IR (night cams). Some have speculated it was his "kit" - an assembly of abduction tools; zip ties, duct tape, tarp or plastic sheathing, rope, etc.

The bite light was additionally interesting because he used an approximation of DNA covering PPE (gloves, etc.) but then used a saliva DNA transferring bite light (yeesh!).

I agree his handling of the camera was very fumbled, as you suggest there would be a more direct way to deal with it. Indeed the footage offered up plenty of odd details.

No doubt it's been rehashed a million times. Going back to the only visual evidence we have of the perp is vital.
I guess all the wi-fi jammer, internet connection, roof cams, alignment of the planets talk has me frustrated....lol

 

[Sundog]

This sequence of events makes sense to me:

• Perp knew there was a camera in advance (perhaps by suggested Jan 11th visit)
• Camera is intentionally taken offline at 1:47am via WiFi Jammer or some other means
• Perp is waiting and/or doing some other prep for the next 30 odd minutes
• At some point before 2:12am the internet connection to the camera comes back online (if it's a WiFi jammer maybe the battery died or something)
• Perp finally goes to enter the house (or at least try to) via the front door around 2:12am when the video is captured and gets out to Google's servers
• Perp is surprised to see the camera is online (should be able to tell it's online via the light colour) and tries stuffing plants in front of it
• Perp eventually disconnects/breaks the camera and takes it with them

Could be one person, could be multiple but I think it works

As for why a short range WiFi jammer would affect neighbours connections, maybe it was just a brief thing as he is passing by and already has the jammer on to be extra sure it'll be ready to block the camera's connection when he gets there

How would a neighbor know if someone had temporarily disrupted their internet or WiFi service at approximately 2:00 a.m. in the morning?

 

[submarine7]

That would only be a huge, powerful, wide-spectrum military grade device, not something obtainable to an individual and carried in a pocket. The use, sale and import of any 'jammer' is prohibited by US law.

Criminals don't care if something is prohibited.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

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Just so you know, the administrators have asked us to not use that person's name. Initials are fine, just not the full name.

JMO

 

[FaviousM]

How would a neighbor know if someone had temporarily disrupted their internet or WiFi service at approximately 2:00 a.m. in the morning?

According to another poster (and the neighbour Brian Entin spoke to) the camera keeps a history of wifi disconnections and may even give you a notification that the camera disconnected

 

[Bluewing3102]

How would a neighbor know if someone had temporarily disrupted their internet or WiFi service at approximately 2:00 a.m. in the morning?

Depends, usually if the ISP (Internet Service Providers) offers an app to download- the homeowner can look at the diagnostic logs to see when the router was down. Otherwise if they didn't have an app installed you'd have to contact the ISP directly to check.

 

[stmichael]

I know little about guns but would a silencer fitted on it make it too large for its holster?

Probably not.

The holster is believed to be a universal revolver holster that fits a 6" barrel so I estimated it at 10". A suppressor on a small frame semi might fit in there (he had the gun loosely jammed in there without the securing strap snapped over it as intended, it looked like it would fall out). I doubt if he was using a suppressor and signal jammers he would have such a mismatched holster or carry in that manner, completely unnecessary.

 

[Trino]

Agree the backpack was filled with light items such as tarps. JMO

Unless the culprit was plannng on taking something(s) from the house. Maybe gemstones?

 

[submarine7]

This is the guy seen on camera with two backpacks a few miles from NGs home on the night she went missing. He is using a wifi jammer. That's why he holds the backpack up like he does. They are used and not hard to acquire.

 

[FaviousM]

Probably not.

The holster is believed to be a universal revolver holster that fits a 6" barrel so I estimated it at 10". A suppressor on a small frame semi might fit in there (he had the gun loosely jammed in there without the securing strap snapped over it as intended, it looked like it would fall out). I doubt if he was using a suppressor and signal jammers he would have such a mismatched holster or carry in that manner, completely unnecessary.

The holster is a weird thing

Would it really be more difficult/expensive to acquire a holster that actually suited his weapon?

 

[ab01]

How would a neighbor know if someone had temporarily disrupted their internet or WiFi service at approximately 2:00 a.m. in the morning?

The couple said they have four Ring cameras on their property, and that the one that is closest to Guthrie's home said “not available” when they went to look for footage from the overnight hours on the day of the abduction.

I believe they are claiming that when they went back and looked later, they noticed that one camera wasn't recording at the relevant time.

I think there are a lot of assumptions being made about a possible wifi/internet outage in the area.

I believe investigator were likely attempting to corroborate some information they might have been told. By asking various neighbors if they noticed any disruptions. MOO

Guthrie case investigators question neighbors about any internet issues on the night she disappeared

The 84-year-old mother of “TODAY” co-anchor Savannah Guthrie has been missing for more than a month.

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