GUILTY NC - Kathleen Peterson, 48, found dead in her Durham home, 9 Dec 2001

  • #221
adnoid said:
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Not the kind she needs.
Snort! I bet you might have just some kind of remedy in your hip pocket eh? ;)
 
  • #222
adnoid said:
The help she needs is best administered in a professional setting.
"administered"

:laugh:
 
  • #223
Hey KCL ... nice work! I'm glad Peterson's sister has found her "voice" vis a vis her connection with you. One can only wonder if the other Peterson family members (sans Anne Bird) will ever come to terms with who and what Scott really is or continue to deny, deny, deny. Clearly the truth is a bitter pill to swallow but as Michael's sister points out, it's definity the key toward healing.

DAWN TREADER :cool:
 
  • #224
Didn't the article say that Michael was almost exclusively homosexual recently? If I read it correctly, this is confusing. Wouldn't Kathleen have wondered why her husband was acting different or perhaps giving her the brush-off.

Could Kathleen have said a snide remark that angered Michael enough to strike out at her?
 
  • #225
katiecoolady said:
Well, in the case of Ann Bird, I think it was a blessing she got distance from that freaked out family. She has a good family. Jackie would always and continually be a disappointment to her. If not downright abusive. IMO. I don't feel she will suffer at all (in the long run) getting disconnected from that dynamic.

Ann's is much more complex. She has two brothers (besides MP) and nieces and nephews she's grown up with, spent holidays with, her own child being connected to etc. her entire life. It really is in the wake of this sociopathic bomb going off in the center of her family that has caused all of the destruction. She has had a very close relationship with entire family before that. I hope it heals in the future but save Michael Peterson admitting he did it and her family validating her position, there will be big gaps. She made it clear that no one treats her with disdain really...just total distance. I think they know she knows far more than she's said and wouldn't want to trigger an avalanche (not that she would do that but still...).
I agree with you on Ann Bird, she's better off without Jackie.
I am happy to hear that the other Ann has great support.


It really is in the wake of this sociopathic bomb going off in the center of her family that has caused all of the destruction.] Quote.]


Wow! That's heavy
 
  • #226
Gozgals said:
Thank you Katiecoolady for this article. What a great picture too!;) ;)

Just the other day I pulled up recent articles on the "Other Michael" and was

reading about him. Glad to see his sister speak out.

You did a wonderful job. I look forward to reading your future peices. I know I will be getting this magazine, just to read your work.

Thank you again.

Gozgals.
Do you have any links on this recent stuff Gozgals , I would love to read them Thanks.
 
  • #227
redeskimo said:
Do you have any links on this recent stuff Gozgals , I would love to read them Thanks.
Here is one great link for you guys on this case--granted totally Guilty perspective but some of the greatest writing and compilation you will find anywhere. May I introduce my online friend Vance Holmes (aka Poetic Justice):


www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_m_peterson.html

Enjoy!
 
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  • #229
katiecoolady said:
Here is one great link for you guys on this case--granted totally Guilty perspective but some of the greatest writing and compilation you will find anywhere. May I introduce my online friend Vance Holmes (aka Poetic Justice):


www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_m_peterson.html

Enjoy!
Thanks again Katie.
I did read the book: Written in Blood.
It was excellent.
 
  • #230
noorbe said:
Thanks again Katie.
I did read the book: Written in Blood.
It was excellent.
I agree noorbe. It was actually the author of that book, Diane Fanning, who hooked Ann Christensen up with me. She's a very cool lady herself. I started reading her book Through the Window but honestly got so spooked I had to set it down. She had alot of access to that serial killer in prison. I intend to follow her writing career ...she's working on a new one (trial) now.
 
  • #231
nanandjim said:
Didn't the article say that Michael was almost exclusively homosexual recently? If I read it correctly, this is confusing. Wouldn't Kathleen have wondered why her husband was acting different or perhaps giving her the brush-off.

Could Kathleen have said a snide remark that angered Michael enough to strike out at her?
Yes, Ann quoted her brother Bill as he was explaining the strength of the DA's case (while attempting to manipulate her to agree to releasing 350K of their father's estate...along with several other strong pieces of evidence against Peterson, which, ironically became the straw for Ann...that which cracked open her mind to realize his guilt). He said that Mike had been nearly exclusively homosexual. That was the first I'd ever heard of that. I suppose it reflected the degree of male on male 🤬🤬🤬🤬 they found and God knows what else Mike confessed to him.

I don't think for one minute Kathleen knew of his sexual acting out. Or was in complete denial about it. She was very preoccupied with the stress at her job at that time. Remember, sociopaths can be VERY convincing, charming and talking anyone out of, or in to, anything.

Many people think she found 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on his computer that night which caused her to confront him and he lashed out.

I think I'm in the minority who believes this was a very carefully crafted attack fueled by his rage against women in general (which Ann was exposed to--her piece is really the tip of the ice berg in that regard). I think he planned this well in advance and staged the whole thing. He was probably fairly impaired himself by alcohol so made several mistakes. He probably also made mistakes in the Ratliff murder but took such control of that scene from start to finish that it was not investigated as a homicide. Which of course spurred him to think he could get away with it again.

In my opinion. I think most of the G's think it was more of a spur of the moment rage killing. I think rage was involved obviously but, with what I know, I think he has some traits of a serial killer in that he enjoys the kill. He enjoys gore and blood and violent scenes...I'll just leave it at that.
 
  • #232
katiecoolady said:
...Many people think she found 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on his computer that night which caused her to confront him and he lashed out...I think I'm in the minority who believes this was a very carefully crafted attack...
Now that I think about it, your conclusion makes perfect sense. I mean, what are the odds that Kathleen would be "suddenly" killed in the exact same manner that this other woman died. Too coincidental for my taste...

Could it be possible that he even "planned" for Kathleen to find the 🤬🤬🤬🤬? If they were in debt and his meal ticket was in danger of losing her job, he may have thought that she was worth more dead than she was alive (due to the large insurance policy). As other killers, he may have thought that he got away with it once. So, he could get away with it again.
 
  • #233
nanandjim said:
Now that I think about it, your conclusion makes perfect sense. I mean, what are the odds that Kathleen would be "suddenly" killed in the exact same manner that this other woman died. Too coincidental for my taste...

Could it be possible that he even "planned" for Kathleen to find the 🤬🤬🤬🤬? If they were in debt and his meal ticket was in danger of losing her job, he may have thought that she was worth more dead than she was alive (due to the large insurance policy). As other killers, he may have thought that he got away with it once. So, he could get away with it again.
I think his going out to rent the movie "America's Sweethearts" was part of his preplanning and staging. HE kept bringing this up as if it had significance. Like others would buy the "look at how soulmated we were" line of BS. Who remembers the TITLE of a movie they rented the night their loved one is killed or even thinks to mention it...maybe that they were watching a rental movie earlier in the evening sure..but to go on and on about the title? Even his creepy lawyer kept using that as if it had some kind of meaning. That alwayst to me was a clue.

Did you know about the freaky black cat poster, Le Chat Noir? His first victim had this identical poster in her home when he killed her. Then he takes possession of her daughters and moves into the mansion and hangs that EXACT print at the bottom of a creepy staircase where those girls live. How sick is that? As some memorial to their mother who died at the bottom of a staircase? And the whole black cat symbology. I think he was delighting every time he passed that remembering his first kill. Well, it wasn't his first as he killed many people in the war.

Speaking of that, did you guys know that Patty was protesting the War when he voluntarily signed up? Some people believe that he volunteered for the War so he could have the opportunity to experience killing people...in a legal way. There are many signs that point to this. He had a thirst for killing. Ann's words in her story about him needing to be contained are very very accurate. She knows her brother better than most people...certainly better than those he wanted to buy into his innocence.
 
  • #234
katiecoolady said:
Here is one great link for you guys on this case--granted totally Guilty perspective but some of the greatest writing and compilation you will find anywhere. May I introduce my online friend Vance Holmes (aka Poetic Justice):


www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_m_peterson.html

Enjoy!
Great link . Thanks a million
 
  • #235
katiecoolady said:
...Ann's words in her story about him needing to be contained are very very accurate. She knows her brother better than most people...certainly better than those he wanted to buy into his innocence.
Is Michael in the general population? I certainly hope so. Also, was he allowed to use any of Kathleen's money for his defense?? I hope not!! How was her estate distributed?
 
  • #236
Katie:
Thank you so much for the link. Interesting article.
I followed this case somewhat, but of course not as closely as the Peterson west case. ;)
It's quite chilling on when Anne realized he actually did do it,... and the first. How scary to think that someone you love and respect is capable of such deceipt, manipulation, and murder! :eek:
I guess it's because of the many new forensic discoveries that they are just now starting to uncover a number of cases such as this,.........whereby upon the death of a spouse they realize that a previous spouse or spouses died under similar circumstances that were ruled 'accidental' at the time. To anyone thinking these guys wouldn't be dangerous because this was a 'one time' occurrance need to think again, IMO.
My hats off to Anne for her courage in standing up for what she believes in. Right is right and wrong is wrong and murder is.........murder.

JMHO
fran
 
  • #237
katiecoolady said:
Here is more debunking the Maha Mockumentary on this case called The Staircase:

www.peterson-staircase.com


I followed the trial and knew he was guilty. It wasn't until after watching "The Staircase" that I saw what a true 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 he really is/was. I'm sorry that Anne lost out on having that portion of her family in her life, but honestly, I think she's probably better off. I'm glad that she's telling her side of the story. That Mike would take money from family members with medical needs doesn't even shock me in the least. He's so self-centered that he can't see past his own needs. What did did to his children during that trial and the months leading up to it was disgusting. Hopefully, one day they'll too see the truth and be able to free themselves from him and go on to lead happy, productive lives.
 
  • #238
katiecoolady said:
Michael Peterson's sister speaks out about his guilt:

www.justicemag.com

KUDOS Katie, great article. Thank you for bringing Ann's voice to us and being there for Ann. This is one case, I will never forget.

Katie, do you happen to know if the German government has reopened the investigation for the death of Liz?
 
  • #239
LaMer said:
KUDOS Katie, great article. Thank you for bringing Ann's voice to us and being there for Ann. This is one case, I will never forget.

Katie, do you happen to know if the German government has reopened the investigation for the death of Liz?
I just read this LaMer www.wral.com/peterson/index.html it's down at the bottom of the piece titled A year after the verdict life goes on for people in the Mike Peterson trial . It say's that Germany has opened an investigation .
 
  • #240
LaMer said:
KUDOS Katie, great article. Thank you for bringing Ann's voice to us and being there for Ann. This is one case, I will never forget.

Katie, do you happen to know if the German government has reopened the investigation for the death of Liz?
I don't think it is being considered "reopened" officially. I'm doing a bit of investigating in to that right now. I know Liz's sisters are interested in seeing him prosecuted for her murder. But that is very very delicate considering Liz's daughters who's entire reality is structured that Michael Peterson "saved" them vs. murdered their mother in order to procure them and their incomes. (the latter I obviously believe completely).
 

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