GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #11

[lowes123]

Ok, first just want to say I am glad as much justice as could have been was served. NH is terrible and what he did was absolutely horrific. While you may have had him convicted before he was, he basically was free and did as he wanted for 2 years, leaving those of us concerned about the case to wonder every scenario. Her husband adamantly told the press his relationship with his wife was fine. This was not true. When one lies about that, you wonder what else he was lying about. I heard from locals that he was very nonchalant when posting missing flyers of her, at times even laughing. Everyone grieves differently, but these things were red flags. When no one is caught for 2 years, you wonder what happened and try and visit every scenario. Did her husband do it? Was she kidnapped and trafficked? Did NH do it? Was she a victim of the still unsolved Northside rapist? Clearly if he was doing coke the day before he led the PI to her body, he wasn't really under the radar of FPD. I am glad he is in jail and I hope he suffers as his victims did. And I doubt anyone on here or even his own family will put money on his commissary.

 

[sundrop]

Good points, Nick confessed to PI on the Tuesday before he showed him where the body was, drugs?

 

[lowes123]

Do you think that the PI gave him the coke to loosen him up to tell him?!?

 

[OldSteve]

Ok, first just want to say I am glad as much justice as could have been was served. NH is terrible and what he did was absolutely horrific. While you may have had him convicted before he was, he basically was free and did as he wanted for 2 years, leaving those of us concerned about the case to wonder every scenario. Her husband adamantly told the press his relationship with his wife was fine. This was not true. When one lies about that, you wonder what else he was lying about. I heard from locals that he was very nonchalant when posting missing flyers of her, at times even laughing. Everyone grieves differently, but these things were red flags. When no one is caught for 2 years, you wonder what happened and try and visit every scenario. Did her husband do it? Was she kidnapped and trafficked? Did NH do it? Was she a victim of the still unsolved Northside rapist? Clearly if he was doing coke the day before he led the PI to her body, he wasn't really under the radar of FPD. I am glad he is in jail and I hope he suffers as his victims did. And I doubt anyone on here or even his own family will put money on his commissary.

Good summation - the questions you asked were ones I had. What surprised me is that searching did not find her since she was buried at his camp ground - it did not sound all that far from Foggy Bottoms, if I'm correct?

I still have concerns, not about his guilt, but about the use of PI's connection to LE as if working undercover... grounds for future appeal I wonder..

 

[sundrop]

She was not found behind the bar, that's where she was killed at, she was found about 3 miles from bar off River Rd

 

[Madeleine74]

There will be no future appeal, as he voluntarily accepted a first degree murder guilty plea deal and the legal requirements in choosing such a deal is that the killer forfeits all rights to future appeals. That's it, lock, stock, & barrel. He'll be in prison the rest of his life.

As for the rest of it, wondering what happened and following a missing persons case, and looking at what LE has released for information is certainly not the issue. It was the outright 'making up evidence and facts that did not exist around scenarios that did not happen' and using those made up/imagined bits to place blame on a person who wasn't even near the victim, that was unconscionable, and that most certainly did happen in this case. Even after LE announced who had direct information into KB's disappearance (NH), that information was abandoned in favor of continuing speculation/rumor/made-up-evidence.

Anyone who didn't participate in that should certainly not feel defensive, and they'd have no reason to object to that summation, as it did happen. And those who take great exception and get defensive about it and feel the need to justify the behaviors are feeling culpable and must have participated. Rather than get defensive, it's an opportunity to look within and learn and understand.

 

[sundrop]

Still with the plea a lot of information is still being left out and misinformation being told even in court

 

[sundrop]

DA said that he didn't take case to trial because of legalities

 

[Madeleine74]

Bottomline: did NH kill KB and bury her body near the freeway, in the woods? Did he have a justifiable reason for killing?

 

[sundrop]

NH has always been the only suspect, it was not self defense so there's no reason for the murder

 

[Madeleine74]

He did it.

He pled guilty.

game over.

 

[sundrop]

You're correct for 16 months after nick was arrested, its been a game

 

[borndem]

That's a big win in that they get him convicted, he gets LWOP, and no trial had to occur where 'issues' alluded to would have been on display.

Was he being threatened with a possible DP sentence? That would provide the motivation to take a guilty of 1st degree murder plea and LWOP.

Local News

[h=1]Fayetteville man pleads guilty to killing Kelli Bordeaux[/h].
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Nicholas Michael Holbert, 28, pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and first-degree kidnapping. The plea helped him avoid a possible death sentence in the case.

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Read more at http://www.wral.com/fayetteville-ma...-kelli-bordeaux/14817419/#bcS8DPzrjgEtrOQh.99

It would appear so -- kidnapping and murder -- I guess he realized he was up against it. And sometimes the threat of the DP will make a suspect realize what a big gamble that would be. And now that he has made that plea, he gives up all rights, IINM, of appeal. So they've got him.

 

[OldSteve]

There's always wiggle room -

In most cases when there’s an appeal after a guilty plea, the appellant claims that the conviction is no good because the plea wasn’t made knowingly, intelligently, and/or voluntarily.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal-law-basics/guilty-pleas-and-appeals.html

Do I want this to happen here - No.

 

[sundrop]

Usually judges dismisses these types of appeals

 

[Madeleine74]

There's always wiggle room

No there isn't wiggle room. In fact there are specific steps that are taken not only by the DA but also by the judge to make sure the perp clearly understands what s/he is doing and exactly what they are giving up by taking a plea deal. It's a big document in fact, which I found and linked to in another case, that outlined each and every step in a plea process in NC.

The perp not only has to sign a document and initial relevant passages, s/he also is questioned by the judge. The judge will only accept the plea when the judge is convinced the perp is taking the plea willingly, without coercion, without any other promises, and they fully understand the terms of the deal.

I have no fear that Holbert will be locked away the rest of his life, as he deserves. He won't be able to successfully appeal.

 

[borndem]

Well, he's in Central Prison, where he'll be for several weeks. He will undergo physical & mental health tests and the like, and then he will be placed in a prison that is commensurate with his custody status (minimum, medium, close, etc.) and control status (level of individual supervision, isolation, and control), and medical needs, if any. His particulars, incomplete at this time, will be completed when his initial tests, etc., are done.

Here is his mugshot.

The remainder of the data will not fit in the margins here, so it can be seen in this link:

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi...turl=pagelistoffendersearchresults&listpage=1

 

[borndem]

A follow-up to my post above -- it looks like Nick will remain at Central Prison for however long, apparently. His particulars are complete, so he may as well settle in for a while. The DPS does move inmates around from time to time. It shouldn't matter a whit to us since he should be solidly in a NC prison until he takes his last breath, and leaves there horizontally in a body bag, just like his victim was when her tattered body parts were found. He won't have a chance to abuse another child; and he won't be trying to assault a young woman behind a bar ever again. So we can fuggedabout him and know that Kelli and the ones who loved her finally have closure and a measure of justice. So long, Nick.

Here's a link to his updated NCDPS record:


http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi...turl=pagelistoffendersearchresults&listpage=1

 

[OldSteve]

The remark he made about her getting him mad because made a derogatory comment about him being a sex offender is typical of the way killers, instead of having remorse, look to come up with something to justify what they did...

Well, good that he will not be able to harm anyone else. But I wonder, considering his previous lifestyle of living out of his car, how worse off he'll be n prison.

 

[Madeleine74]

In prison he is fed regularly, has a bed, can take 2 showers a week (maybe 3, I'm not sure), will get healthcare and dental care (not great, but better than nothing, which is what he had before). He was homeless before and it didn't seem like he had prospects for much. I'd say his lifestyle has improved in certain ways. Not a way any of us would ever want, but he's a ward of the state now.

The important thing is he is off the streets and won't be able to kill any one in free society again. And, he's such a liar because supposedly KB didn't know about his past offense (unless he told her).