GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #6

[tlzzdavis]

I am new and am not sure how to do all of this....but something jumped out at me and I had to try to post. Do you think that the last 2 text messages might have been sent to her Mom? ("A man is taking me home" and "home safely") Her mom new she was going out drinking....perhaps that is how her mom knew KB was spooked... Might be a stretch...

Reports have shown they were sent to her childhood friend Justin.

 

[Muckrucker]

I am new and am not sure how to do all of this....but something jumped out at me and I had to try to post. Do you think that the last 2 text messages might have been sent to her Mom? ("A man is taking me home" and "home safely") Her mom new she was going out drinking....perhaps that is how her mom knew KB was spooked... Might be a stretch...

Welcome. Good questions.

We do know from interviews with Kelli's brother Matt that at least two text messages were sent to Kelli's long time friend, Justin. Justin had been to visit Kelli recently and had met Nick while Kelli and Justin played pool at Froggy's several weeks before Kelli's disappearance.

(We don't know for certain if the two texts mentioned were the last messages sent for sure, or that there weren't others exchanged in between.)

From an interview with Kelli's Mom, she heard the story about Kelli being 'spooked' from police, who were relating Nick's story to her. We don't know if she really was spooked or not, because only Nick and Kelli know if that story is true. And Kelli isn't around to tell her side of that experience.

 

[TigerBalm]

JVM from earlier tonight, she spoke to Kelli's husband Mike and her brother Matt.

She also has a few clips of NH speaking to the reporter last week.
(Take note of his facial expression when he is asked if he killed Kelli, his mouth says no but his head says yes.)

Kelli Bordeaux: 4/25/12 - YouTube

 

[spoiledmom]

JVM from earlier tonight, she spoke to Kelli's husband Mike and her brother Matt.

She also has a few clips of NH speaking to the reporter last week.
(Take note of his facial expression when he is asked if he killed Kelli, his mouth says no but his head says yes.)

Kelli Bordeaux: 4/25/12 - YouTube

I agree. The look on his face says it all.

 

[GDUD]

welcome to all of our new members!!!!

:hero::fireworks::fireworks2::fireworks::hero:

I am new too!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

A civil docket is a list of cases pending before a civil court. It is essentially a schedule that tells the judge and the plaintiffs and defendants what cases will be brought when. Cases are usually scheduled at least several weeks in advance, so interested parties can view the civil docket to determine what issues are being litigated at any given time.

Cases brought in civil court are private lawsuits between two citizens. In other words, no federal prosecutor or officer of the court brings cases in civil court. When official state action occurs, such as criminal court cases, the cases are normally brought in criminal court or in another division of the court system, such as tax court.

Civil courts are thus governed by laws detailing the duties people owe to each other. This is not to be confused with civil law systems. Civil law systems are those systems which do not rely on common law or judge made law. Civil courts can and do exist in common law jurisdictions, such as the United States and England.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-civil-docket.htm

Think Judge Judy.

 

[katydid23]

I hope this guy does not get away with this. I do not believe a word of his story.

 

[tlzzdavis]

:banghead::banghead:So I just finally watched JVM....the husband sounds like he is going to be the one who trips up! She doesn't really have friends...then when asked why he wasn't concerned about not hearing from her he states that he was busy spending time with him family and he figured she was spending time with friends. Hmmm... the hinky meter just went thru the roof. IMO Where are phone records showing MB's cell phone pings? I am going crazy over this case!

 

[LLLindsayy]

Typing from my phone from work (oops!) so I cant tell yet if this POV has been brought up, but if it is the case that Kelli was spooked by something, but got out to walk anyway.. Maybe she WAS spooked by something in the car, didnt feel 100% safe walking home (news of recent rapes?), but felt safer walking home than she did staying in the car. This would explain being spooked, the walking home yet not wanting to, and the "let me out right here." Sorry in advance if that is confusing!

 

[gngr~snap]

Typing from my phone from work (oops!) so I cant tell yet if this POV has been brought up, but if it is the case that Kelli was spooked by something, but got out to walk anyway.. Maybe she WAS spooked by something in the car, didnt feel 100% safe walking home (news of recent rapes?), but felt safer walking home than she did staying in the car. This would explain being spooked, the walking home yet not wanting to, and the "let me out right here." Sorry in advance if that is confusing!

Spooked? IMO a soldier does NOT get "spooked" that easily! She had military training! She was taught to defend herself! She might be a small woman but I will NOT under estimate her!
IMO she HAD to be "subdued" by other means. by injesting or inhaling an unknown agent! This was personal IMOO!!!!

 

[tlzzdavis]

Typing from my phone from work (oops!) so I cant tell yet if this POV has been brought up, but if it is the case that Kelli was spooked by something, but got out to walk anyway.. Maybe she WAS spooked by something in the car, didnt feel 100% safe walking home (news of recent rapes?), but felt safer walking home than she did staying in the car. This would explain being spooked, the walking home yet not wanting to, and the "let me out right here." Sorry in advance if that is confusing!

Don't mark my words BUT from everything I have read her mom said she was spooked... NH I do not believe ever said that...and her mom also stated she had spoke to KB since earlier in the day Friday. So how would she know that KB was spooked? Just seems far fetched for her to make statements on what KB was feeling at that time. IMO KWIM

 

[Analyze This]

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/cumberla...ng-soldier-will-appear-today-show-ar-2207886/

Mike Bordeaux is going to be on the Today show this morning.

 

[Melly53]

This is from http://www.nccourts.org

Q.I have just recently separated from my spouse, when can I get a divorce?
A.Most divorces can occur after the parties have been separated and lived apart for one year. (Last updated on 09/04/2001 &nbsp

Q.Do I have to wait a year for child support and my share of our marital property?
A.No, but if you and your spouse cannot agree on child support and division of your marital property you may need to seek the advice of an attorney about a separation agreement or some other form of action. Some actions, such as the division of marital property (equitable distribution) must take place before the divorce is granted. You should seek the advice of a lawyer before you divorce. (Last updated on 09/04/2001 &nbsp

Q.What does a separation agreement cover?
A.Almost anything the two sides can agree to, such as how much child support is paid, who the child or children live with and how often the other parent gets visitation, who gets the house, the car, and who is responsible for what debts. (Last updated on 09/04/2001 &nbsp

 

[LLLindsayy]

Spooked? IMO a soldier does NOT get "spooked" that easily! She had military training! She was taught to defend herself! She might be a small woman but I will NOT under estimate her!
IMO she HAD to be "subdued" by other means. by injesting or inhaling an unknown agent! This was personal IMOO!!!!

Don't mark my words BUT from everything I have read her mom said she was spooked... NH I do not believe ever said that...and her mom also stated she had spoke to KB since earlier in the day Friday. So how would she know that KB was spooked? Just seems far fetched for her to make statements on what KB was feeling at that time. IMO KWIM

I was quoting the following message and responding to the mom's words. On the premise that what she said is true. Of course it can be argued that she is learning her information from NH so it might not be true at all.

"I don't think she got home from the bar, and supposedly the person who dropped her off ... something supposedly spooked her in the car," Johnna Henson said. "She didn't want to get out of the car, yet she got out of the car, and that's the part I don't understand. If something spooked her, why would she get out of the car?"
http://www.wesh.com/r/30930047/detail.html

 

[VOH910]

VOH, can you tell me, that Friday night, did you leave first or did Nick?
If you did, can you tell me was his car in the lot when you left? Do you recall?

Can you please reiterate how far behind Froggy's was his lean to, from the map even with it being DOT land, it appears he essentially lived in the forest by the ramp leading onto the highway? Would it be a long walk to bar? Did Nick always bring his car to the bar? or did he just appear at times? Was the juke box on upon his return? Did you hear or see his car lights as he pulled in? How did he drive his car back to his lean to and yet no one ever saw him to know he was living back there? You did say no one knew that right?

I left after Nick. I cannot answer about his car.

It was walking distance, I can tell you that much. About a 1-2 minute walk.

I cannot answer most of those questions. I'm sorry.

In regard to his living arrangements, all of the people I have talked to had no clue he was living behind the bar.

 

[tlzzdavis]

Has anyone else wondered what path this investigation would be going down if NH didn't have his record from 10 years ago? Or if the last person seen with her was a "law abiding" citizen? Just a thought...because as my old boss always said " you can what if it to no end but it doesn't change what the truth is "
And please don't say that she wouldn't be missing if she didn't leave the bar with Nick. In my mind it would have been easier for him to harm her and it go un-noticed had he done it when he picked her up to go to the bar...at that point hardly anyone would have even put the two as being in each others company.
Remember innocent until proven guilty!

 

[VOH910]

VOH,
When you say it was not a date, as you have in the past. You mean not a conventional date. No affection was shown, no holding of hands, no kissing, but they hung out the night together.

Can you tell me, what did you think it was? When he showed up with a woman? Obviously you did not consider it an everyday night at Froggy's. Or you would not have been shocked...lol. So what made it different....

Yes I know I am a pain in the MULE....lol

Mules are reliable animals for traveling through the mountains!

There was no intimacy between them. I thought it was friends hanging out. I tend to not speculate about things, but I at first I did think maybe it was but then I really did not care so I did not put thought into it. They both volunteered it was not a date late in the evening.

 

[VOH910]

And last but not least...

VOH, I think you rock....
I want to wish you good luck on the search tomorrow...
Wear bug spray...(me and my bugs) Avon skin so soft works wonders ...lol

and VOH....

I will say a prayer tonight for you....I pray you get that job tomorrow...Best of luck

As a hiker/camper I prefer Off Deep Wood Protection! But for some amusement I did have a friend ask me if she would need a flashlight going deep into the woods. After I regained my composure, I recommended she get a miner's head lamp. :floorlaugh:

 

[VOH910]

Wow Muckrucker I did not know that. I know that small claims is held in County Court. However to file for divorce ( here anyway) you must file in District Court...So I am guessing Civil court can be held at both County and District Court levels. I wonder if they also have a Municipal Court level for Civil hearings....Very interesting...

Cumberland County handled divorce and custody cases with in the Civil Courts and I believe they have a special Family division that also handles restraining orders.

 

[VOH910]

If you get a traffic violation from a city cop, then its Muni. If you get one from Sheriff or CSP, then it goes before the County Court here.

I really am only somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to criminal courts...and that is not from a Lawyer type standpoint, but from the poor officer stuck on court transport many times, very boring job.

In Fayetteville, traffic tickets given by city cops are handled at the County Level. There is no city court.