NV - Jessica Valenzuela, 32, dead, 36 injured, car plows into crowd, Las Vegas, 20 Dec 2015 *arrest*

[flourish]

I thought she was broke and desperate.
She didn't have money right?

Pffftttt

what's changed that makes you think she wasn't broke and desperate?

 

[MsFacetious]

I wonder if she was successfully controlling her issues with THC...
Then ran out and that triggered this whole downward spiral.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

what's changed that makes you think she wasn't broke and desperate?

She was "living in a car" with a three year old. She had no money. But she had drugs. I find that interesting. Gas is pretty cheap right now. A lot cheaper than weed. But she was "stuck" and desperate in Vegas.

Sorry. I'm not buying it.

 

[flourish]

She was "living in a car" with a three year old. She had no money. But she had drugs. I find that interesting. Gas is pretty cheap right now. A lot cheaper than weed. But she was "stuck" and desperate in Vegas.

Sorry. I'm not buying it.

Thc lasts a while. She could have smoked a joint a month prior or the hour prior. We don't know. We also don't know she paid for it. One can trade for weed...maybe she was an Oregon medical patient that didn't have to pay for it. We don't know. Maybe she wasn't buying it, either.

 

[flourish]

Was it a urine test, hair, blood? Thc level?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Again, I'm not buying the whole "poor homeless mentally snapped victim of the system" bs.

I don't care when she smoked it. I only care about what she did to the victims. She's not a victim. She's a monster.

JMO

 

[CARIIS]

That can't possibly be the extent of it, tox-wise, can it? Hmm.

So she tested positive for thc? That doesn't prove when she used it...

I agree with you flourish -- having some TCH in your system means nothing as far as plowing over people .

There are reasons why it is getting more and more legal tthroughout the US -

imo

 

[CARIIS]

In blood tests , for weed, the numbers only mean a "detection" threshold - it is not like alcohol. Totally different entity. It has little correlation to impairment - it just means there was some there , to indicate exposure TCH sometime in some peroid.

Or to put it another way ...All it indicates is "use" and or exposure (pot filled room/car) not degree of impairment.

There are also two kinds of TCH . There is the active level - and a entity that is kinda like a byproduct of the tch itself. The by product stays longer than the actual TCH which produces the actual feeling.

The cutoff for the byproduct numbers are generally 20- 50/ng

Some debate but as refereence an occisionial user it will stay around 4 days. Frequent/Chroniic (which really translates to what?) 10 days. .

In sum:

difficult to establish a relationship between a person’s THC blood or plasma concentration and performance impairing effects.

their mere presence in body fluids cannot be construed as evidence of impairment.”[3]

If those levels are true, they are extremely low and they don't indicate that she was impaired in any way,"

the results undercut the findings of a police drug recognition...... and reported that she appeared to be under the influence of a stimulant.

some kind of stimulant weren't borne out,"

...... Holloway's system was above state limits, it was below a 50 nanograms-per-milliliter limit set by Department of Transportation for pilots, overland truckers and other interstate drivers.

My guys (on probation) had to random drop, so basically that is when I learned that it is totally different than alcohol testing -- night and day

someone who may have smoked in the last week or so, IMO has no menaingful impact on driving over fellow humans.

IMO, I think it is gonna end up be fatigue induced entity ....



http://digipathlabs.com/driving-impairment-and-thc/

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/...ip-crash-suspect-tests-positive-for-marijuana

http://www.leafscience.com/2014/04/22/how-long-thc-stay-system/

 

[CARIIS]

she had been on the "road" for what a bit over a week:

sleep deprivation leads to a rewiring of the brain's emotional circuitry

a lack of shut-eye is causing some psychological disturbances.

Harvard ..... after studying 26 healthy students aged 24 to 31 after either an all-nighter or a full night's sleep.



Fourteen subjects spent 35 straight hours without getting a wink before being rolled into a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) shoulder and finally pictures of burn victims and other traumatic portraits.

The researchers mainly monitored the amygdala, a midbrain structure that decodes emotion, and observed that both sets of volunteers had a similar baseline of activity when shown the innocuous images. But, when the scenes became more gruesome, the amygdalae of the sleep-deprived participants kicked up, showing 60 percent more activity relative to the normal population's response.

researchers noticed that more than five times more neurons in the area were transmitting impulses in the sleep-deprived brains.

"I think we may start to think about a new potential function for sleep," says Walker.

"It does actually prepare our emotional brains for next-day social and emotional interactions."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-a-lack-of-sleep-cause/

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I agree with you flourish -- having some TCH in your system means nothing as far as plowing over people .

There are reasons why it is getting more and more legal tthroughout the US -

imo

I'm not saying the weed caused her to do this or that it even played a role.

My point was, people want to say how hopeless and broke she was but she was able to smoke.

I don't care when she did it.

She had a child to take care of and she was using.

Most good moms I know have never had THB in their systems at all when they have a child to take care of.

I'm assuming the "trace" is not being detected from over three years ago.

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

She didn't plow down those people because she was tired.

She made every choice that got her into the predicament she was in.

Those people on that street were completely innocent and were injured and one died because of this disgusting person's choices.

And probably 90% of this thread is posts defending this monster.

And people wonder why our country is so screwed up.

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://m.reviewjournal.com/news/las...counts-night-the-deadly-las-vegas-strip-crash

TRAUMA UNIT CHIEF RECOUNTS NIGHT OF THE DEADLY LAS VEGAS STRIP CRASH

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Jessica Valenzuela was trapped under the sedan for at least 200 yards as pedestrians ran alongside, banging on the car and trying to get Holloway to stop, the source said.

Valenzuela, 32, of Buckeye, Ariz., died at University Medical Center from multiple blunt-force injuries as a result of the crash. Her death was ruled a homicide.

Thirty-five other people were injured in the crash, three of whom had critical head injuries.

http://m.reviewjournal.com/news/las...led-1-injured-dozens-tests-positive-marijuana

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Armentano said if Holloway wasn’t a frequent marijuana user, she could have accumulated 3.5 nanograms per milliliter of active marijuana and 23.6 nanograms of marijuana metabolites on the day of the crash.

If she was a habitual user, it’s possible she could have passed a week without using marijuana and still registered such levels, he said.

http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/dec/30/report-driver-in-strip-sidewalk-crash-had-marijuan/

So she was either a frequent user who had used within a week or so OR had used that day for those levels.

Either way, it's not acceptable.

Frequent user/mother of a three year old=disgusting.
Used that day/mother of a three year old sleeping in a car=disgusting.

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't remember seeing this.
So after she told the valet to call 911 she just walked away and left her three year old baby girl still strapped in the back seat of her killing machine.

Mother of the year for sure.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/who-is-vegas-suspect-lakeisha-holloway/6988833

Witnesses said she was "stoic" after the rampage, telling a parking valet what she had done and calmly asking him to call 911. Then she parked her car outside a hotel about a mile away from the crash scene and walked away, leaving her 3-year-old daughter alone in the back seat, Lombardo said.
Holloway was found and arrested a short time later.

 

[SugarQueen]

This woman/ girl didn't have a picture perfect life. As a child she had no choices over what her life was like. As an adult/ older teen she HAD choices. She was given an opportunity to make her life better. She made the CHOICE to run down innocent strangers! People she knew nothing about! I'm tired of hearing about the " system" letting people down. What ever happened to people taking responsibility for themselves and their actions?
I just don't understand how her past gets her any sympathy for what she's done.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

This woman/ girl didn't have a picture perfect life. As a child she had no choices over what her life was like. As an adult/ older teen she HAD choices. She was given an opportunity to make her life better. She made the CHOICE to run down innocent strangers! People she knew nothing about! I'm tired of hearing about the " system" letting people down. What ever happened to people taking responsibility for themselves and their actions?
I just don't understand how her past gets her any sympathy for what she's done.

I agree. She was enrolled in a program that helped her. She helped herself. She got scholarships most kids can only dream of. She had the opportunity to go to college. A lot of kids never get that chance.
And she ruined it.

IMO this all boils down to her obsession over a man. There was recent "trouble" in her relationship.

IMO that's why she did this. IMO it was a vindictive self centered, attention getting, evil act. Over a man.

She wasn't thinking of her baby when she left her HOME and FAMILY in OR. She was thinking of a fricken man.

JMO

 

[dotr]

I agree. She was enrolled in a program that helped her. She helped herself. She got scholarships most kids can only dream of. She had the opportunity to go to college. A lot of kids never get that chance.
And she ruined it.

IMO this all boils down to her obsession over a man. There was recent "trouble" in her relationship.

IMO that's why she did this. IMO it was a vindictive self centered, attention getting, evil act. Over a man.

She wasn't thinking of her baby when she left her HOME and FAMILY in OR. She was thinking of a fricken man.

JMO

Rbbm. Bingo, imo.
She was going places, she had done well and could have beaten the odds, but instead the model/actress wannabe, got saddled with a baby and apparently no husband or acting father for that baby. The suspect got right back in the cycle she managed to escape-over a man(? )only she was going to make somebody- anybody, pay for that misstep, and pay attention to her too!
imo, speculation.

 

[flourish]

Right right someone doesn't spend every post simply degrading and re-admonishing, and wants to look at other aspects of the situation. So many times posters lament, "what made this person do this?" but actually discussing those factors here is apparently defending and excusing.

I'm interested in learning more about what led this woman to do this horrendous act. It wasn't just one thing or one person. It was a combination of things that happened and the timing and how her particular psyche was impacted along with her temperament and resiliency factors, etc. I find it interesting in a psychological, sociological, criminalogical manner. That's what I love about websleuths --looking at so many facets of a case and people. I find it boring and short-sighted and, frankly, naive to just jump in the "they're evil" "it was reefer madness" "for a guy" bandwagons and leave it at that. There is always more to it. Life is nuanced.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Bad people do bad things. Sometimes just because they want to.

She said it herself. She was in pain and wanted others to feel her pain.