GUILTY OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #64

[Puzzles8]

He got married incredibly young. 19 when marriage license was taken out. Angie was only 20. Marriage Announcement is in Rhoden Media Timeline.

OH - 8 Family Members Murdered, Pike Co., Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*

He is close to his sister (according to Canepa) and she is several years older, his brother is several years older as well. So instead of fighting with his much older siblings he likely was babied and spoiled by them.

I think as the baby of the family his parents spoiled him. They seem to have allowed him to drop out of school around age 12 and he never did go off like his brother to develop his own business. He has always been supported by FWF.

So being indulged and spoiled rotten comes to mind. Getting his way etc...

How I see it

Do we know if Billy attended a public/private school or was he home-schooled? Same question of his siblings.

 

[Cool Cats]

Do we know if Billy attended a public/private school or was he home-schooled? Same question of his siblings.

Another mystery. So many....GRRR......

 

[Johnny B Bad]

What do you Sleuthers think the Cartel will do to the Wagners for blaming them on 8 murders that the Cartel didn’t commit, IMO if I was a Lying Wagners and want to live I would ask for protection, JMO

 

[altojack]

What do you Sleuthers think the Cartel will do to the Wagners for blaming them on 8 murders that the Cartel didn’t commit, IMO if I was a Lying Wagners and want to live I would ask for protection, JMO

Deffo, or cover my a$$ if I was a lying murdering Wagner.

 

[Cool Cats]

Eight unsolved murders in Pike County, Ohio

Union Hill Road.

A memorial picture collage hangs above the sofa in Leonard Manley’s home.

Leonard Manley’s wallet is filled with pictures of his daughter and grandchildren.

James Manley’s derby car for the 2018 season. The Rhodens were very involved with derbies and fixing up their derby cars, especially Frankie.

 

[Piffcat]

Eight unsolved murders in Pike County, Ohio

Union Hill Road.

A memorial picture collage hangs above the sofa in Leonard Manley’s home.

Leonard Manley’s wallet is filled with pictures of his daughter and grandchildren.

James Manley’s derby car for the 2018 season. The Rhodens were very involved with derbies and fixing up their derby cars, especially Frankie.

Thanks for the pics it really hits home to see the 2006 dates. Shows how young all the rhoden kids were even frankie wasnt old enough to drink! Sometimes hes put forward as a number 2 threat and I'm sure he was tough. But hes also about 10 years younger then gw4!! Grown men killing kids in their sleep!!

 

[Cool Cats]

What do you Sleuthers think the Cartel will do to the Wagners for blaming them on 8 murders that the Cartel didn’t commit, IMO if I was a Lying Wagners and want to live I would ask for protection, JMO

Not the Cartel to worry about in prison.

Inmates prefer to go to prison by putting their head down and going under the radar, quietly keeping to themselves as much as possible and not making waves.

The last thing you want to be in prison is notorious. All 4 Wagners will be notorious in prison, they will not be able to keep quietly under the radar. Jake was already being bugged by inmates in jail who tried to get information out of him to use it as leverage in their own cases.

So in prison all 4 will have bullseyes on their backs. Might as well walk around with bells around their necks, everyone will notice them coming.

Then you have the inmate code. You know, the code where they hate pediophiles and rapists. For their own safety those inmates must sometimes be put into protective custody.

Well they hate mothers being shot point blank range in bed leaving their babies covered in blood for 8 hours. This is not going to go over well by any means especially for Angie who will be with women who are mothers themselves. 80% of women in prison are mothers. Angie can expect constant flack and harassment for this.

The Wagners will go into prison as notorious as can be, known as cowards who shoot sleeping mothers in bed and leave babies to fend for themselves.

To make a name for themselves some inmates will take it upon themselves to punch out a Wagner to be seen as a kind of hero who put a Wagner "in their place."

Another thing is that the guards will hate them and have all kinds of ways to make life miserable for them.

No, the Wagners in prison have more to worry about than the Cartel. Try the guy or gal they are sitting next to at chow.

"Quotes" from a Corrections Officer at Michigan Women's Huron Valley Correctional Facility who knows notorious women inmates.

"What are you looking at? You got a problem Wagner?"

"Oh Wagner's cookie is missing off of her tray, what is she going to do about it?"

"Hey Wagner! Your shower shoes are missing? Don't look at me, ha ha."

"No you can't have the TV remote (controller) back, it's mine now."

"Get the @#$% out of my way Wagner."

"Better not rat out to the guards over your black eye or they will do worse to you."

"Wagner's such a coward."

"Wagner failed as a mother."

"Ha! Get real. Wagner failed as a grandmother!"

This is probably why Angie is letting her trial or decision to plea drag drag drag out....... She is avoiding prison as long as she can and the consequences there of.

... 2 Cents ...

 

[LMDlong]

I seen on courtview today GW4 attorney filed the original motion that was faxed last week. And AW’s attorneys filed today to travel for medical again. I wonder if it’s all getting to her too much.

 

[Cool Cats]

I seen on courtview today GW4 attorney filed the original motion that was faxed last week. And AW’s attorneys filed today to travel for medical again. I wonder if it’s all getting to her too much.

Thanks LMD! I don't check Angie's Docket often.

* Something New With Angie *

08/23/2021
DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PERMIT TRAVEL FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES FILED (VIA FAX) Attorney: KRAPENC, ROBERT F Attorney: HUNT, MARK M

I don't know if this is why she is asking for off-site medical but I believe since Jake's guilty plea and her "frantic" phone call that day, that yes I agree with you that it's most likely all getting to be too much for her.

 

[LMDlong]

I seen on courtview today GW4 attorney filed the original motion that was faxed last week. And AW’s attorneys filed today to travel for medical again. I wonder if it’s all getting to her too much.

Thanks LMD! I don't check Angie's Docket often.

Something New

08/23/2021
DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PERMIT TRAVEL FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES FILED (VIA FAX) Attorney: KRAPENC, ROBERT F Attorney: HUNT, MARK M

I don't know if this is why she is asking for off site medical but I believe since Jake's guilty plea and her "frantic" phone call that day, that yes it's most likely all getting to be too much for her.

your welcome.

 

[Ann99]

Thanks LMD! I don't check Angie's Docket often.

Something New

08/23/2021
DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PERMIT TRAVEL FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES FILED (VIA FAX) Attorney: KRAPENC, ROBERT F Attorney: HUNT, MARK M

I don't know if this is why she is asking for off-site medical but I believe since Jake's guilty plea and her "frantic" phone call that day, that yes it's most likely all getting to be too much for her.

AW probably wants to go off site to a medical facility for the purpose of using the phone. Doesn't that sound like something she would do?

 

[LMDlong]

AW probably wants to go off site to a medical facility for the purpose of using the phone. Doesn't that sound like something she would do?

Sure does. Hadn’t thought of that.

 

[Cool Cats]

AW probably wants to go off site to a medical facility for the purpose of using the phone. Doesn't that sound like something she would do?

She wouldn't be able to use the phone. Easier to use it in jail. She has to have a physical or "mental" reason to go off-site.

 

[Ann99]

She wouldn't be able to use the phone. Easier to use it in jail. She has to have a physical or "mental" reason to go off-site.

" Easier to use it in jail".
I know AW is not permitted to use the phone in jail and if she somehow does, the call and conversation is recorded.
I meant (and with sarcasm) that AW probably faked a medical need to go off site thinking she would find a phone to use and talk in private, unrecorded.
It was kind of a facetious comment.
Maybe AW does have genuine medical reason to go off site and she will not
even think of using the phone should one be available to her. idk.

 

[Cool Cats]

" Easier to use it in jail".
I know AW is not permitted to use the phone in jail and if she somehow does, the call and conversation is recorded.
I meant (and with sarcasm) that AW probably faked a medical need to go off site thinking she would find a phone to use and talk in private, unrecorded.
It was kind of a facetious comment.
Maybe AW does have genuine medical reason to go off site and she will not
even think of using the phone should one be available to her. idk.

I totally get your point. I think not just Angie but many other inmates would jump at the chance to get their hands on a phone. Any phone.

Angie made 2 phone calls April 2021 from jail according to George's August 28th Discovey. But making the 2 calls without getting caught is near impossible, Angie was caught. Also, as you say the calls are recorded.

So I think Angela getting caught using the phone is why Angela never got her phone privileges back. A Motion was filed for Angie to use the phone to call family but then there is no follow up on her Docket.

This is all that is on her Docket concerning Angie trying to get her phone privileges back:

06/14/2021
MOTION TO PERMIT TELEPHONE CONTACT WITH FAMILY FILED

Her 1st call was made on the significant day of April 22nd.

 

[IType]

I totally get your point. I think not just Angie but many other inmates would jump at the chance to get their hands on a phone. Any phone.

Angie made 2 phone calls April 2021 from jail according to George's August 28th Discovey. But making the 2 calls without getting caught is near impossible, Angie was caught. Also, as you say the calls are recorded.

So I think Angela getting caught using the phone is why Angela never got her phone privileges back. A Motion was filed for Angie to use the phone to call family but then there is no follow up on her Docket.

This is all that is on her Docket concerning Angie trying to get her phone privileges back:

06/14/2021
MOTION TO PERMIT TELEPHONE CONTACT WITH FAMILY FILED

Her 1st call was made on the significant day of April 22nd.[/QUOTE
BBM, August?? 28th? Should to this be April?

 

[Covert Operative]

I believe the discovery showing those calls was turned over to G4 defense on June 21st. After seeing that perhaps the defense may have chosen not to pursue since she had broken the rules.

 

[Cool Cats]

IType

Your quote to my post:

"August?? 28th? Should to this be April?"
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Sorry mistake --- not August it's April --

I thought the mention of Angie's 2 April 2021 phone calls were listed in George's April 28th Discovery, see below.

But I don't see them listed here like I thought.

Do you know where her phone calls in April are listed? Anyone?
@Covert Operative .. ?

Discovery posted a while back by Covert Operative and Mod approved

 

[Betty P]

IType

Your quote to my post:

"August?? 28th? Should to this be April?"
___________________________________________________________________________________

I thought the mention of Angie's 2 April 2021 phone calls were listed in George's August 28th Discovery, see below.

But I don't see them listed here like I thought.

Do you know where her phone calls in April are listed? Anyone?
@Covert Operative .. ?

Doesn't that stuff go all the way back to her mother's discovery and plea bargain?

 

[Covert Operative]

IType

Your quote to my post:

"August?? 28th? Should to this be April?"
___________________________________________________________________________________


Sorry mistake --- not August it's April --

I thought the mention of Angie's 2 April 2021 phone calls were listed in George's April 28th Discovery, see below.

But I don't see them listed here like I thought.

Do you know where her phone calls in April are listed? Anyone?
@Covert Operative .. ?

Discovery posted a while back by Covert Operative and Mod approved

It was in the June 21 2021 discovery.