GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #2

[bessie]

True, and I remember reading that he took off his jacket or coat, and wrapped it around her. I'll look for the link.

Found it.

Myers wrapped the girl in his jacket and called police. The girl told him that she was hiding because someone was chasing her.

http://www.wasterecyclingnews.com/a...nitation-worker-finds-abducted-girl-in-philly

 

[CHERIE.T]

The reward is now 75,000.00 according to an ABC update.

 

[bessie]

Forgive my ignorance but what day do Muslims honor their religion or worship?

The weekly holy day is Friday.

 

[countryfox]

Why would LE use those words? "enjoying this victim". That's odd terminology. :moo:

I also thought it was a poor choice of words when the child was initially characterized as "unharmed", given only what we knew at that time.

 

[necco]

Forgive my ignorance but what day do Muslims honor their religion or worship?

Friday.

And they have call to prayer 5 times a day.

 

[CHERIE.T]

" This crime has left this young girl not only physically scarred but emotionally harmed as well. " said Jerry Mondesire, president of the Philadelpha NAACP.


www.philly.com/Philly/ news/20130127_reward_in_5-year-old_s_kidnapping

Jan. 27, 2013. 3:11am

 

[CHERIE.T]

The weekly holy day is Friday.

:seeya:thanks Bessie! Wondering if anyone at the services acted abnormally. Too talkative, nervous, etc.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Friday.

And they have call to prayer 5 times a day.

Thanks necco!

 

[The Cheese]

Here's the Jan 16th press conference video. Nothing about "enjoying the victim".

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20...ct-identified-in-west-philadelphia-kidnapping

 

[Dr. Know?]

May N get the justice she derserves for whatever the monsters have done, may Chelsea Ramsey-Jones be found or someone update us on her disappearance soon, please? I pray the circus doesn't show up more than it could have already. I don't think Chelsea harmed N btw in any manner. I think they are both victims of the same perps. I hope not for Chelsea, let her be found too asap. Loving arms around this 5 year old for sure.

 

[necco]

Ok. We have two names attributed to the female suspect, Tiffany and Rashida. It may mean nothing, but Tiffany means "revelation of God" and Rashida means "righteous."

Just thought I'd toss that out there.

 

[CarmelEyesD]

Does anyone have a link to the second video?

 

[JustBecause]

I don't think our hero knew if she was bleeding or not. She had on a dark or black colored t-shirt and it was wet. He wouldn't know until he let her go and saw his clothes possibly & I don't think he put her down until police or medics arrived. gah that's hard to write.

He also said he wrapped his jacket around her as soon as he realized she only had a shirt on. His mind must have been going a million miles an hour, and it was dark.

On the other hand, police said it was raining all night. It's possible that anything in plain sight would have washed off.

 

[JustBecause]

Ok. We have two names attributed to the female suspect, Tiffany and Rashida. It may mean nothing, but Tiffany means "revelation of God" and Rashida means "righteous."

Just thought I'd toss that out there.

The full meaning is righteous leader.

Found Alive PA - A 5 yr old child abducted from Philadelphia school, 14 Jan 2013 - #1 - Page 27 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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[CHERIE.T]

I also found this info while reading news articles about the abduction. According to an article on NBC 10 Philadelphia, posted on Jan. 16.....the child's grandfather said someone in the house where the victim was taken put her outside and told her to run and call police. :0

In the same article police said the kidnapper was female, black and appeared pregnant.

So where, near the school, does a pregnant Muslim live? A pregnant woman who may have other children? Moo

Another thing...in the article Darby said the kidnapper was absolutely unknown to the child. ...absolutely unknown.

One more thing ........the article states the dad had 5- five- girlfriends. I guess that is accepted in the culture. All 5 were questioned by LE. Any of them pregnant?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

If there is a large conservative Muslim population in the neighborhood, perhaps a woman in a burka is nothing of note. In my neighborhood, seeing a 5'3" 109 year old Italian man walking wouldn't even register. It's all about what's the norm where it happened.

This. There is a large amount of Muslim women in head to toe garb. Also what if she used to for cover and stripped to street clothes when she was outbid shot of school. What you also have to understand is while people are outraged about this little girl they don't talk. They are most likely afraid to be targeted and will not talk. It is a rough place. Why is there so much crime in these communities because people are locked in fear and have no place to go. As for cameras, it is not center city. They have little mom and pop store with cameras that are just bogus to scare people. Some have them but are only worried about in the store. Not out.

 

[belimom]

Wow...I'll have to take this in and digest it a little more....not too comfy with it, tbh. Appreciate you and others volunteering and the commitment.. it's commendable, but at the same time wonder about the teacher/child relationship and how it could be affected. Most of all... about safety and security of the children How would the teacher or school know if they are inviting a perp of some kind? What would be the outcome if it came to be a volunteer harmed a child they met doing so? How many volunteers have access on a daily basis, etc.? Geez, now I just envision dozens of unknowns just buzzing the hallways....and how would anyone know who's not suppose there?

I work in an urban school district, and parent volunteers really help make things work.

There are a wide variety of ability levels within each classroom, and these classrooms often contain 25-30 kids - and one teacher. So the teacher is trying to challenge the bright students, to reach the average student which is the majority of the classroom, and try to help remediate the slower ones - while also incorporating the special education students (including intellectually disabled (ID - or MR as it used to be called)) into the lesson as well. Then there are those needing accommodations such as needing to sit near the front for vision or hearing problems, or away from distractions so they can focus, or who can't take many notes b/c they have issues with fine motor skills. There are those who have speech/language issues who may need for something to be repeated or paraphrased before they really 'get it'. Then when giving an assignment, you have to modify it this way for one, another way for another, etc. All of this can be within a single classroom with just that one teacher.

A special ed teacher works with those who have a bonafide learning disability, intellectual disability, or emotional disturbance (all the things that I diagnose). And SLP and OTs work with those who need speech/language and OT services. But there are many many others who fall within a gap of what is loosely called 'slower learners'. They don't fit into a classification set in the federal law (IDEA) for special education. These kids need help, and parent volunteers often come help read with them, help with math, etc.

But that's just one reason. My father-in-law and some of our friends volunteer weekly with specific children that they are paired with. It's a volunteer program for reading (I can't think of the name for it), but it's a mentoring program for children who not only need the help but need more positive influence in their life. It's a wonderful and effective program. My FIL has been doing it for over a decade, and has worked with about 3-4 children over that timespan - one at a time. So he has worked with them for 2-3 years each. Every week... and has formed meaningful relationships with them.

Teachers welcome parents into the classroom - they really do. Can you imagine having to teach a wide variety of students like that? Or do a special project like decorate for a holiday with the students, without any help? Like TLCYA said, it's best when they schedule it in advance so that the teacher's lesson isn't disrupted and/or parents aren't just showing up unannounced.

I hope this helps...

 

[belimom]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8731559#post8731559
After reading the theories about FGM, I just wanted to point this post out. I paraphrased the live presser given on January 16th at 1pm and Captain Darby said that the male suspect was restraining the child and "enjoying this victim". I remember that line specifically because it gave me chills and I put quotations around that phrase because it was verbatim. I can't find a link to that press conference though....I'd like to rewatch it. The video of the press conference originally posted by The Cheese on page 23 of that thread goes to a different press conference now (it goes to the one I link next which was actually from Jan 15th not the 16th).

Also here's a presser from Jan 15th in which Captain Darby says there were no overt signs of injury. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8955189

These clues make me believe she was more likely a victim of sexual assault, rape. :cry:

bbm

I do agree that it could be sexual assault, and that's what I had originally thought. Then I saw the following: "Beautiful innocent child who was horribly injured, the crime here is as heinous a crime as has ever been committed in this city," said Tom Kline. It seems to me that it is something beyond what is normally seen, and I'm sure in a big city like Philadelphia they see victims of child sexual abuse and rape.

The words used above give the impression of sexual assault. However, to a young child who may have described being held down and having a man hurting her 'down there', LE could originally have thought she meant sexual assault as they probably had not examined her. If you watch the videos I posted above of FGM, that's also exactly what happens in some cases (one is actually shown): someone holds the child and another does the cutting. It was probably only apparent what had really happened (whatever it was) when she was seen at a hospital. (I wonder if ambulance workers examine a child victim or do they wait until the child gets to the hospital?)

I'm not trying to discount the possibility of sexual assault, but I'm also thinking a lot about FGM as a possibility here. My heart breaks for little N either way.

 

[tlcya]

"This crime has left this young girl not only physically scarred but emotionally harmed as well," said Jerry Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP. "We declare that the sanctity of our children won't be held hostage to the 'no snitching' attitude, which has shielded criminal behavior in the past."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/l...-year-old_s_kidnapping_raised_to__75_000.html

Alrighty then, Mondesire's comment U and BBM. Do we have any further detail as to the injury, scar, whatever it was to N's lip. That has never been clear. Initial reports indicated cuts around her mouth, then no visible injury, then a small scar around her mouth.

I tend to think he is not referring to that as a scar (most recent description of that area) would seem to indicate a previous, already healed injury. But to play devil's advocate I guess it could be argued that he is referring to that "scar" from initial reports? But I really don't think so.

 

[tlcya]

snipped from belimom's post above

The words used above about "restraining and enjoying" gives the impression of sexual assault. However, to a young child who may have described being held down and having a man hurting her 'down there', LE could originally have thought she meant sexual assault as they probably had not examined her.

True, we must remember that N is 5. LE would have gotten as much information as they could on the scene and during the transport to hospital but would have been doing so very gingerly and carefully, IMO, keeping their victim's emotional wellbeing in mind as they questioned her.

Her initial responses may have led to that particular statement and then after hospital exam, the exact nature of the assault would have become more clear to medical professionals.