People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[Betty P]

How many people have given 8 illegal immigrants a ride?

ETA - Link

Abrego Garcia pulled over in 2022 with 8 others at Tennessee traffic stop

Tennessee police stopped the Maryland sheet metal worker, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador, in a 2022 traffic stop.

www.usatoday.com

In a separate statement from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, officials said he was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically.

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

“A police officer identified eight other people in the car with no luggage,” the DHS news release said. “They all gave Abrego Garcia's address as their home address.”

I don’t find it too problematic if he was giving people a ride to work or to the store, etc. I’ve worked in areas with immigrant populations and it’s not unusual for people in a neighborhood to share a car. I do find it unusual that everyone in the car gave his address as theirs. Did he have these 8 people living at his house? Did they have a residence? Did they have jobs?

Either way, it doesn’t justify sending him to a prison in El Salvador.

 

[Elley Mae]

Not sure if they lived in Maryland, or what state they lived in at the time, but of note is that it appears no criminal charges of domestic battery were laid by LE. As the wife explained, her fear was based on a prior relationship and she sought "a civil protective order, in case things escalated". Things did not escalate.

As Tricia instructed earlier, "Let's please stick to the facts. To say he beat his wife is not true according to his wife."

Court filing.

Her response comes hours after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security released Prince George's County court documents from 2021, "Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding 'Maryland Man' the media has portrayed him as. According to court filings, Garcia’s wife sought a domestic violence restraining order against him, claiming he punched, scratched, and ripped off her shirt, among other harm. This MS-13 gang member is not a sympathetic figure."

'I will continue to stand by him' | Wife of mistakenly deported man responds to the Trump admin.'s release of domestic violence court documents

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security released 2021 court documents filed against Kilmar Abrego Garcia by his wife who claimed she was assaulted.

www.wusa9.com

…

In a lengthy statement within a petition for protection "from domestic violence," Jennifer Vasquez Sura mentioned an incident on May 4, 2021, in which she alleges that Abrego Garcia "punched and scratched her eye," causing her to bleed.

That same day, Vasquez Sura said that when she told Abrego Garcia that she needed to go to a store, he "got angry, started yelling again to the point that he ripped [her] shorts and shirt off."

"And I ran to the bathroom, he [ran] behind me and grabbed me by my arm," Vasquez Sura said. "I have marks on my left arm as well."

"At this point I am afraid to be close to him," Vasquez Sura added. "I have multiple photos/videos of how [violent] he can be."

Wife of deported Maryland man Abrego Garcia said he hit, scratched her in 2021 court documents

The wife of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had a temporary order of protection against him in 2021 in which she cited being detained against her will, according to court documents obtained by ABC News.

abc7ny.com

 

[nao]

Moo...this was 2021. Apparently they were mature enough to work through this situation and go to therapy. Then they still stayed as a couple and have a healthy relationship.

 

[Elley Mae]

Moo...this was 2021. Apparently they were mature enough to work through this situation and go to therapy. Then they still stayed as a couple and have a healthy relationship.

I didn’t realize there was an expiration date on domestic violence.

Jmo

 

[Simply Southern]

Court filing.

Her response comes hours after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security released Prince George's County court documents from 2021, "Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding 'Maryland Man' the media has portrayed him as. According to court filings, Garcia’s wife sought a domestic violence restraining order against him, claiming he punched, scratched, and ripped off her shirt, among other harm. This MS-13 gang member is not a sympathetic figure."

'I will continue to stand by him' | Wife of mistakenly deported man responds to the Trump admin.'s release of domestic violence court documents

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security released 2021 court documents filed against Kilmar Abrego Garcia by his wife who claimed she was assaulted.

www.wusa9.com

…

In a lengthy statement within a petition for protection "from domestic violence," Jennifer Vasquez Sura mentioned an incident on May 4, 2021, in which she alleges that Abrego Garcia "punched and scratched her eye," causing her to bleed.

That same day, Vasquez Sura said that when she told Abrego Garcia that she needed to go to a store, he "got angry, started yelling again to the point that he ripped [her] shorts and shirt off."

"And I ran to the bathroom, he [ran] behind me and grabbed me by my arm," Vasquez Sura said. "I have marks on my left arm as well."

"At this point I am afraid to be close to him," Vasquez Sura added. "I have multiple photos/videos of how [violent] he can be."

Wife of deported Maryland man Abrego Garcia said he hit, scratched her in 2021 court documents

The wife of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had a temporary order of protection against him in 2021 in which she cited being detained against her will, according to court documents obtained by ABC News.

abc7ny.com

His wife and politicians are the only folks I hear defending this gentleman. Makes me wonder why, if he's such a good guy, his neighbors, coworkers, employer or the wife's family, haven't spoken up on his behalf.
Moo

 

[nao]

I didn’t realize there was an expiration date on domestic violence.

Jmo

Moo... actually people can change. They talk, they go to therapy, they learn from their unproductive skills. They succeed in improving what is necessary...moo

 

[Betty P]

Moo...this was 2021. Apparently they were mature enough to work through this situation and go to therapy. Then they still stayed as a couple and have a healthy relationship.

Well, that’s possible.

Given the serious Constitutional violations involved in this policy of shipping Americans to foreign prisons without due process, I’m not sure this particular case is “the hill I want to die on”. There are other valid cases that the media should focus on. JMO

 

[nao]

Moo...this was situation between two adults.Guess people should be careful of what they say..I did not know that words I put on a legal statement can be published with out my consent.

 

[Lilibet]

Court filing.

Her response comes hours after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security released Prince George's County court documents from 2021, "Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding 'Maryland Man' the media has portrayed him as. According to court filings, Garcia’s wife sought a domestic violence restraining order against him, claiming he punched, scratched, and ripped off her shirt, among other harm. This MS-13 gang member is not a sympathetic figure."

'I will continue to stand by him' | Wife of mistakenly deported man responds to the Trump admin.'s release of domestic violence court documents

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security released 2021 court documents filed against Kilmar Abrego Garcia by his wife who claimed she was assaulted.

www.wusa9.com

…

In a lengthy statement within a petition for protection "from domestic violence," Jennifer Vasquez Sura mentioned an incident on May 4, 2021, in which she alleges that Abrego Garcia "punched and scratched her eye," causing her to bleed.

That same day, Vasquez Sura said that when she told Abrego Garcia that she needed to go to a store, he "got angry, started yelling again to the point that he ripped [her] shorts and shirt off."

"And I ran to the bathroom, he [ran] behind me and grabbed me by my arm," Vasquez Sura said. "I have marks on my left arm as well."

"At this point I am afraid to be close to him," Vasquez Sura added. "I have multiple photos/videos of how [violent] he can be."

Wife of deported Maryland man Abrego Garcia said he hit, scratched her in 2021 court documents

The wife of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had a temporary order of protection against him in 2021 in which she cited being detained against her will, according to court documents obtained by ABC News.

abc7ny.com

The article continues,,,
She then added, "Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process."
The Prince George's County court online system indicates that the case was dismissed after the petitioner did not appear in court.
———————-
The Trump administration keeps tossing fresh meat to MAGAs who gulp it down. But this de-escalated physical abuse has NOTHING to do with the fact that Mr Abrego García should not have been sent to El Salvador in the first place.

This is just propoganda spin because the govt has a weak case. Why do you think Bukele had one of his officials place Margarita-like drinks in front of the Senator and Garcia, with less in Garcia’s glass so if looks like he drank some? Why did Trump show a black and white photo of Garcia’s knuckle tattoos with MS13 written or photoshopped above them? Why are they desperately resorting to dishonest set-ups to assassinate his character? Why do they need to lie? They are running scared and throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks because they have no case. But the MAGAs on X/Twitter are eating if up. Gotta feed the beast, ya know. Edit: That way they’ll forget about due process and the economy.
JMO

 

[Simply Southern]

How many people have given 8 illegal immigrants a ride?

ETA - Link

Abrego Garcia pulled over in 2022 with 8 others at Tennessee traffic stop

Tennessee police stopped the Maryland sheet metal worker, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador, in a 2022 traffic stop.

www.usatoday.com

In a separate statement from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, officials said he was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically.

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

“A police officer identified eight other people in the car with no luggage,” the DHS news release said. “They all gave Abrego Garcia's address as their home address.”

Makes me wonder what he was doing driving eight others through Tennessee with no luggage. I thought in 2022 he was living with the wife in Maryland. The document below states he was driving on expired license and "transporting" people to work construction in MD from TX. All with NO luggage, definitely a red flag. Moo

HSI Referral Abrego Garcia Redacted

www.documentcloud.org

 

[Summerliz03]

Senator says trip to El Salvador was to support Kilmar Ábrego García’s due process

Chris Van Hollen says ‘if we deny constitutional rights of this one man, it threatens the constitutional rights of everyone’

www.theguardian.com

This article really gets to the root of the issue - Kilmar Garcia was denied his right to due process and sent to a Salvadorian prison despite not being convicted of any crimes in the US or El Salvador. If we start letting this happen to undocumented immigrants, then what is stopping it from happening to any of us? IMO. Here's the most impactful statement in the article from Van Hollen:

“My whole point here is that if you deprive one man of his constitutional rights, you threaten the constitutional rights of everybody,” Van Hollen said later to the Fox News Sunday host Shannon Bream. “I would hope that all of us would understand that principle – you’re a lawyer. I’m not vouching for the individual, I’m vouching for his rights.”

As I stated before, even the worst criminals and murderers receive due process and it's the foundation of our Constitution. Again, MOO.

 

[nao]

Makes me wonder what he was doing driving eight others through Tennessee with no luggage. I thought in 2022 he was living with the wife in Maryland. The document below states he was driving on expired license and "transporting" people to work construction in MD from TX. All with NO luggage, definitely a red flag. Moo



Moo.

If the people he was transporting did not want to work and he was selling them as slave labour. I can see that as a problem. But were they not allowed to travel on to work? That seems the story... stopped but..let go

 

[Lilibet]

If the people he was transporting did not want to work and he was selling them as slave labour. I can see that as a problem. But were they not allowed to travel on to work? That seems the story... stopped but..let go

And as I know you know so I’m preaching to the choir, no charges were filed and it has NOTHING to do with his right to due process before being whisked off to a hell-hole prison in El Salvador. It is a Trump propoganda distraction so we will decide Mr Abrego García deserves to be sent to the hell-hole. This is about rights, yes for Mr Abrego García and ultimately for all of us, no matter how messy our lives have been. The constitution guarantees due process in the 14th Amendment.

“nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Civil Rights (1868)

EnlargeDownload Link Citation: The House Joint Resolution Proposing the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, June 16, 1866; Enrolled Acts and Resolutions of Congress, 1789-1999; General Records of the United States Government; Record Group 11; National Archives. View All Pages in the National...

www.archives.gov

WE ARE IN DAINGER OF LOSING THESE RIGHTS. Mr Abrego García is the canary in fhe coal mine.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

His wife and politicians are the only folks I hear defending this gentleman. Makes me wonder why, if he's such a good guy, his neighbors, coworkers, employer or the wife's family, haven't spoken up on his behalf.
Moo

His co-workers set up a fund-raising site to support the family and have raised over $200,000.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia GoFundMe reaches major milestone

Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported and sent to a notorious El Salvador prison in March despite an immigration court order preventing his deportation.

www.newsweek.com

His Union head supports him.

His wife is probably the best spokesperson for him.

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

I didn’t realize there was an expiration date on domestic violence.

Jmo

Of course there is. Not everyone is a chronic abuser. Even though there are still too many chronic abusers, Abrego Garcia is obviously not one of them.

Lots of people do really dumb things - I would imagine even more so when they spend their formative years in a violent country. Then some grow up and realise what they did was wrong, or go to counselling and realise what they did was wrong, or suffer some consequences and realise what they did was wrong.

It is irksome to know that his wife says the situation was resolved - long ago - and to hear others hang onto it for dear life.

imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Why did Trump show a black and white photo of Garcia’s knuckle tattoos with MS13 written or photoshopped above them? Why are they desperately resorting to dishonest set-ups to assassinate his character? Why do they need to lie?

And why did they not just bring Abrego Garcia back when they realised they made a mistake? By now, that matter would have blown over.

Instead they keep lying and intensifying it. Looking like cruel fools to the whole world.

imo

 

[sapphire blue]

Court filing.

Her response comes hours after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security released Prince George's County court documents from 2021, "Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding 'Maryland Man' the media has portrayed him as. According to court filings, Garcia’s wife sought a domestic violence restraining order against him, claiming he punched, scratched, and ripped off her shirt, among other harm. This MS-13 gang member is not a sympathetic figure."

'I will continue to stand by him' | Wife of mistakenly deported man responds to the Trump admin.'s release of domestic violence court documents

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security released 2021 court documents filed against Kilmar Abrego Garcia by his wife who claimed she was assaulted.

www.wusa9.com

…

In a lengthy statement within a petition for protection "from domestic violence," Jennifer Vasquez Sura mentioned an incident on May 4, 2021, in which she alleges that Abrego Garcia "punched and scratched her eye," causing her to bleed.

That same day, Vasquez Sura said that when she told Abrego Garcia that she needed to go to a store, he "got angry, started yelling again to the point that he ripped [her] shorts and shirt off."

"And I ran to the bathroom, he [ran] behind me and grabbed me by my arm," Vasquez Sura said. "I have marks on my left arm as well."

"At this point I am afraid to be close to him," Vasquez Sura added. "I have multiple photos/videos of how [violent] he can be."

Wife of deported Maryland man Abrego Garcia said he hit, scratched her in 2021 court documents

The wife of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had a temporary order of protection against him in 2021 in which she cited being detained against her will, according to court documents obtained by ABC News.

abc7ny.com

There is no actual evidence that he is an MS-13 gang member. allegations are not proof, especially when he has not been charged with any crime nor does he have criminal convictions

due process is for all, denial of due process means the government have no case or an extremely weak case against him.

There but for the grace of god…

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

There is no actual evidence that he is an MS-13 gang member. allegations are not proof, especially when he has not been charged with any crime nor does he have criminal convictions

due process is for all, denial of due process means the government have no case or an extremely weak case against him.

There but for the grace of god…

Did you see Trump's latest Truth social post? He says there's not enough time to give everyone a trial. Truly laughable.

 

[SouthAussie]

Did you see Trump's latest Truth social post? He says there's not enough time to give everyone a trial. Truly laughable.

I saw a quote where he said it would take 200 years to give everyone a trial.

Maybe if they quit trying to deport people who are in the US legally he could shorten that time by a multitude of decades.

imo

The whole world is seeing his ridiculous statements. You can imagine what the free countries are thinking.

US President Donald Trump said to give everyone a trial "would take, without exaggeration, 200 years."

Trump: US can't give every person it wants to deport a trial – DW – 04/22/2025

US President Donald Trump said to give everyone a trial "would take, without exaggeration, 200 years." Lawyers for Venezuelan migrants have demanded 30 days' notice for migrants before deporting them.

www.dw.com

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I don't think this will happen--it's just theatrics. Maduro already said he will only accept one flight of Venezuelans, and Cuba said the same. IMO - this is just changing the subject to offering a humanitarian solution.

Nothing about this is humanitarian. They are using human beings as props and negotiating tools. That isn't humanitarian when cartels or traffickers do it and sure isn't humanitarian when world leaders do it. They put innocent people in a foreign prison so the leader of that country can exchange these individuals for criminals they want back. It's disgusting, and if there's any justice in the world, every person involved in this sham will be charged and sentenced by an international court.

MOO.