GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[cottonweaver]

Agree, I think the murderer 'punched down' on everyone around him; parents, classmates, food service employees, the population at large. He constantly felt the need to control the narrative and be the smartest guy in the room.

His parents were emotionally held captive by him IMO. 'Mother' was probably the first female in his life that he learned to manipulate and control. I wonder what his relationships with his sisters were like? Not healthy veering into Creepy I would guess.

jmo

and a short fuse ( temper)

in the ISP dump, he's having a hissy fit over his hotel bill within a day of arriving in WA.
Okay , yes they made a billing error and had to correct it but apparently he got ' really upset'

After it's resolved he then flirts with one of the hotel staff and initiates a discussion about knives with her!

unstable and fixated as soon as he arrives. ( this is end of June 2022)

 

[Inthedetails]

Way too many complaints some sexual and intimidation tactics, poor communication with students and Professors. Yeah, no.

The murderer wasn't going to get his TA job back not if he begged on bended knee. WSU knew he was trouble and a potential lawsuit waiting to happen.

JMO

Agree completely. And, I don't think the murders were a factor in his termination. He wasn't returning to the PhD program even if he wasn't a murderer.


jmopinion

 

[Dotta]

and a short fuse ( temper)

in the ISP dump, he's having a hissy fit over his hotel bill within a day of arriving in WA.
Okay , yes they made a billing error and had to correct it but apparently he got ' really upset'

To be fair...
Some bills can result in fits in present times

Although I'm not sure about "hissy",
but cardio attacks maybe?

Anyway, my point is:
this criminal has obvious MH issues,
his reactions are distorted.
Inadequate for the given situation.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Good points, to be sure...

IMO, he could be wanting to or already has/is starting to write up "his manifesto", even if only in his own head...

Maybe he's just waiting for the "vehicle" like an Ipad or whatever, or maybe he never ever plans to do so cuz he has stayed completely silent all along on any details since his arrest and through his guilty pleas.

Personally, I don't think it makes a bit of difference to him whether other inmates are "bothering him" by yelling stuff into the air ducts or whatever, because his physical safety is assured by the wardens and he's physically separated from contact with anyone but prison staff/not in GP/more like solitary confinement for his own protection AFAIK.

Not to poo poo that there is probably an underlying threat to him overall from so many quarters now that he's down for the count with 4 guilty pleas & life sentences for murder of innocents and in lockup for the rest of his born days.

But I truly believe he's not going to be able to be physically accessed by people who want to take him out... "Jeffrey Style" (Dahmer or Epstein... if Epstein's death in prison wasn't suicide of course).

JMO

Agree, inmates yelling through the duct work isn't scaring him, but I do think it's p is sing him off. I believe the murderer only allows outside influence in his personal space on HIS terms only, and they're sure bothering his rigid self imposed schedule. Good.

The murderer still has outside rec time, shower time and maybe even attends religious services. I think any prisoner could be at risk under the right circumstances. Do I think it will happen? I honestly don't know. There are a lot of SK's and Mass Murderers in prison that have done okay for a long time, but I think this murderer has a unique way of getting under people's skin.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

"Bryan Kohberger's Classmates ​

Recall Seeing Him Covered in Injuries for Weeks After Idaho Murders.​

Students at Washington State University told police
they saw Kohberger for the first time two weeks after the murders,
still covered in injuries.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1958093679702253773

• Bryan Kohberger disappeared for a week after the murders, with no reports from any agencies having any information on his whereabouts.
• He returned to class at Washington State University on Nov. 29, 2022, and multiple classmates noticed he had injuries on his hands and started to wear a puffy coat in class.
• Kohberger blamed the injuries on boxing, an indoor accident and a car accident to different people at different times, according to interviews released by Idaho State Police."

Wow! There are many extra tidbits in that article.

 

[Warwick7]

Agree, inmates yelling through the duct work isn't scaring him, but I do think it's p is sing him off. I believe the murderer only allows outside influence in his personal space on HIS terms only, and they're sure bothering his rigid self imposed schedule. Good.

The murderer still has outside rec time, shower time and maybe even attends religious services. I think any prisoner could be at risk under the right circumstances. Do I think it will happen? I honestly don't know. There are a lot of SK's and Mass Murderers in prison that have done okay for a long time, but I think this murderer has a unique way of getting under people's skin.

JMO

BBM
Agreeeeeeeeed!!!!

 

[Tugb0ats]

I don't think we know that he didn't hate his mother or what 'strange' dynamic they had.

That is true. I just heard that he liked to talk to him mom often but then again maybe it has nothing to do with her and he just liked to hear himself talk. I mean I can't imagine he had many other people that wanted to talk to him either.

 

[Dexter12]

I wonder how he funded his druggie lifestyle
I don't know anything about heroin but it can't be cheap

He could have funded it from the things he allegedly stole from his friends father's house.

 

[Inthedetails]

BBM
Agreeeeeeeeed!!!!

I don't think it's the taunting words that bother him as much as the noise. The whole routine and isolation might be tolerable, but I think the noise level will get to him. From what I understand, it's loud in prison.

And the lights never turn off. For a night owl who prowls around the dark for kicks, not experiencing darkness ever again might wear on him too.

But not making friends or being taunted, I don't think that will bother him. He might not even notice that aspect.

jmopinion

 

[Sundog]

Agree completely. And, I don't think the murders were a factor in his termination. He wasn't returning to the PhD program even if he wasn't a murderer.


jmopinion

I think he could have returned to the program if he was willing to pay his own tuition and fees, as he was terminated from his TA position. But they probably knew that that was highly unlikely, and that he wouldn't be returning to the program without his TA position.

 

[Warwick7]

I don't think it's the taunting words that bother him as much as the noise. The whole routine and isolation might be tolerable, but I think the noise level will get to him. From what I understand, it's loud in prison.

And the lights never turn off. For a night owl who prowls around the dark for kicks, not experiencing darkness ever again might wear on him too.

But not making friends or being taunted, I don't think that will bother him. He might not even notice that aspect.

jmopinion

Even at night in their cells the lights don't turn off?

 

[Inthedetails]

Even at night in their cells the lights don't turn off?

LOL, I don't know! I was under the impression that in the high-security side at least, lights are on all the time. But don't take my word for it. I'm willfully uninformed about prison life and might be making assumptions.

jmopinion

 

[cottonweaver]

A WSU sophomore . There are too many redactions to work out which class she was taking but she appears to do extra student advice work too and the document says ' it was common for graduate students to meet with X and discuss their education and future plans.' ( BK had an office downstairs in the same building)


Check out para 10 ! looking up at her office window and hiding in bathroom
( and para 9 ' five times')





ETA
wow - look at 13 too

 

[Dotta]

LOL, I don't know! I was under the impression that in the high-security side at least, lights are on all the time. But don't take my word for it. I'm willfully uninformed about prison life and might be making assumptions.

jmopinion

I guess only while an inmate is on suicide watch.

In regular cells during bedtime the lights are turned off.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

A WSU sophomore . There are too many redactions to work out which class she was taking but she appears to do extra student advice work too and the document says ' it was common for graduate students to meet with X and discuss their education and future plans.' ( BK had an office downstairs in the same building)


Check out para 10 ! looking up at her office window and hiding in bathroom
( and para 9 ' five times')



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ETA
wow - look at 13 too

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It looks
as if BK tried his utmost to date this woman
in his AWKWARD & OBSESSIVE way -
oblivious of her unwillingness.

Did she mention patronizing/sexist remarks?

JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

It looks
as if BK tried his utmost to date this woman
in his AWKWARD & OBSESSIVE way -
oblivious of her unwillingness.

Did she mention patronizing/sexist remarks?

JMO

No but she seems to be the second gay woman that he's really focused on.
She says that he knew she was gay, he knew she had a female partner but still he persisted and she found that strange. Plus she says BK had reputation for being ' very homophobic' ( TA Ben said BK was homophobic)

Wonder why? Challenge? Refusal to recognize or accept?

She also says he knows her schedule too & she doesn't know how.
She doesn't mention any fights she had with him, sounds like she was always diplomatic or avoided or hid

 

[Dotta]

No but she seems to be the second gay woman that he's really focused on.
She says that he knew she was gay, he knew she had a female partner but still he persisted and she found that strange. Plus she says BK had reputation for being ' very homophobic' ( TA Ben said BK was homophobic)

Wonder why? Challenge? Refusal to recognize or accept?

She also says he knows her schedule too & she doesn't know how.
She doesn't mention any fights she had with him, sounds like she was always diplomatic or avoided or hid

Oh!
I missed this bit about her being gay.
Ooops!
I thought "girlfriend" means just a girl who is a friend in this context hahaha
(Eng is a foreign language for me)

Well, it changes the situation if he was aware of her orientation.
Maybe he saw her as a kind of challenge?

His mind is a puzzle to me.

But honestly,
this line about "coffee invitation" is a classic in dating

JmO

 

[LMDlong]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957921279324926001

"The families of Madison Mogen and Ethan Chapin are suing the city of Moscow, Idaho, ​

over the release of crime scene photos."​

I understand the families feelings , I would feel the same . IMO the images released that I seen could have been a lot worse. I have seen worse . I don’t think they will release images of bodies.

 

[Inthedetails]

No but she seems to be the second gay woman that he's really focused on.
She says that he knew she was gay, he knew she had a female partner but still he persisted and she found that strange. Plus she says BK had reputation for being ' very homophobic' ( TA Ben said BK was homophobic)

Wonder why? Challenge? Refusal to recognize or accept?

She also says he knows her schedule too & she doesn't know how.
She doesn't mention any fights she had with him, sounds like she was always diplomatic or avoided or hid

I don't have any idea why he would pursue a gay woman who clearly indicated she was not interested but I doubt his pursuit was with intention of being nice to her.

I'm glad her instincts told her to avoid, report, and take caution.

jmopinion

 

[LMDlong]

I watched and listened even though I have seen it before. I have new questions but my dog listened intently until Murphy stopped or the video did.. She told me what he said (danger, stranger, he is scared, trying to get responses from loves ones) with an exaggerated response. It is unlike her to listen so closely and then respond. JMOO

My dog stopped what he was doing and listened also