GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[DizzyB]

Agree with your timeline. One thing I learned from LE's BodyCam footage was seeing the sliding glass door was right next to the kitchen stove. XK had to be in her room when BK entered - not in the kitchen area. She probably turned off the light, went to her room, and then BK came just a minute or so later. Then XK heard the noises. I bet BK expected them to all be asleep at 4 AM.

If he had left the slider open when he entered, Xana would have seen it if she was out of her room. She may have discovered the open door when she went into the kitchen with her food, or heard the noise upstairs as soon as she left her room and didn’t even have a chance to process the open slider. Or did she say that when she saw the door and heard the noise, pretty much all at once?

 

[stormymama]

Right, Xana could have eaten in her room and then dropped the left overs to the kitchen. I think that is when she heard the commotion and might have started up the stairs but saw the murderer coming down and she raced to her room.

Poor Xana, she was the most coherent and wide awake and fought so hard for her life. She knew what was coming and It breaks my heart for her.

JMO

Yes, I think Xana had started on her fries and walked into the kitchen, maybe to get ketchup, maybe she was full, maybe to get a paper towel, who knows, noticed the slider open and said “there’s somebody here” and heard the noises upstairs, left the food in kitchen and went to see what was going on. That’s how I see it all happening. It was such a disjointed floor plan that BK could have slipped in either while Xana was getting the food at the door or while she was near her room eating. Moo

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes, I think Xana had started on her fries and walked into the kitchen, maybe to get ketchup, maybe she was full, maybe to get a paper towel, who knows, noticed the slider open and said “there’s somebody here” and heard the noises upstairs, left the food in kitchen and went to see what was going on. That’s how I see it all happening. It was such a disjointed floor plan that BK could have slipped in either while Xana was getting the food at the door or while she was near her room eating. Moo

That makes the most sense to me, including the timing of the statement about somebody being there.

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[cujenn81]

Yes, I think Xana had started on her fries and walked into the kitchen, maybe to get ketchup, maybe she was full, maybe to get a paper towel, who knows, noticed the slider open and said “there’s somebody here” and heard the noises upstairs, left the food in kitchen and went to see what was going on. That’s how I see it all happening. It was such a disjointed floor plan that BK could have slipped in either while Xana was getting the food at the door or while she was near her room eating. Moo

This has always been what I think happened and prompted the “I think somebody’s here” comment. Xana noticed the open slider and heard Murphy barking, so she went upstairs to see what was going on.

 

[Megnut]

Not off by much. She was there for 15 minutes. Also, I can’t believe I haven’t seen anyone talk about the fact that BK pulled in behind her vehicle when she was parked in front of the house.

Supplement 104 of MPD files

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The DD driver stated in one of the released documents that she was there for at least 15 minutes because she couldn't find the house. She was walking around with a flashlight between Queen and King Streets and upon finding it didn't feel comfortable going to the back patio so she left it at the front door.

moo

Drive from Pullman walk around looking for a difficult to find address for 15 minutes plus wear and and tear on her car. Earning 6 dollars? The Gig economy.

Plus the fact that she is a female driver alone at that time of night, so dangerous.

She never even noticed him. Preoccupied with finding the house, then on foot with a flashlight and dog. It's terrifying to think how close she was to the felon, a felon who had no trouble slaughtering victims and witnesses alike.

He was right behind her and she didn't know it.

That is its own nightmare, even if she didn't discover it until long after the fact.

She now knows what he's capable of.

Because of people like the felon, none of us can trust shadows.

Terrifierist.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

28m

 

[Megnut]

Much clearer audio...

Words still indistinguishable but...

Thud -- XK falling into the nightstand that hits the wall?

Murphy barking, inside and out...

Sound of trunk closing?

Sound of door shutting?

GH thinks he left the car running and parked really close to wear the camera was, right at the corner.

 

[Megnut]

Video is really really disturbing with this degree of audio clarity.

MOO There's a sound before Murphy starts actively barking. I wonder if the felon shoved or kicked him. MOO

He thinks the female voice says, "who are you? Get out." But he admits it's all but impossible to be sure. Still, it's chilling.

GH has him entering that house possibly closer to 4:15. It fits with what we've learned IMO.

Fast, fast terror of destruction.

 

[Megnut]

DM heard "there's someone here/there". What if that's the same audio the neighbor camera picked up and it was XK saying "get out of here"?

I think this happened even faster than the fast time I was thinking. From 7 minutes to 3.

DM opened her door three times. Twice, there was nothing there, nothing to see (though there must have been sounds to hear), uncanny that she didn't see the felon go up or down the stairs, see him pursue XK -- with a 3 minute timeline, she must have just missed those actions by seconds.

Scarier than any movie.

JMO

 

[hooziewhutz]

State Response to Courts Order Regarding Sealed Documents

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01...o_Courts_Order_Regarding_Sealed_Documents.pdf

Defendant Response to the Courts Order Regarding Sealed Documents

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01...e_Courts_Order_Regarding_Sealed_Documents.pdf

Judge Hipper's Order Regarding Requested Redactions

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/08262025_Order_Regarding_Requested_Redactions.pdf

 

[Chloegirl]

DM heard "there's someone here/there". What if that's the same audio the neighbor camera picked up and it was XK saying "get out of here"?

I think this happened even faster than the fast time I was thinking. From 7 minutes to 3.

DM opened her door three times. Twice, there was nothing there, nothing to see (though there must have been sounds to hear), uncanny that she didn't see the felon go up or down the stairs, see him pursue XK -- with a 3 minute timeline, she must have just missed those actions by seconds.

Scarier than any movie.

JMO

I am starting to understand how many people are sitting on such a small amount of space. If this is a quiet night, there is still an incredible amount of activity.

SODDI defense! Let's just say if he hadn't left the knife sheath and things progressed to trial, he may have gotten off. I do wonder what the tipping point was for BK to request a plea.

I understand more and more why they accepted the plea deal. I am just astonished listening and watching this, and I have to say I do not think people who live in that neighborhood are safe. Maybe no one is anywhere. It is currently in growth-mode and I hope they have a real long-term plan. JMOO

 

[Ghostwheel]

28m

Maybe it's just me, but this is like listening to a spirt box when you are ghost hunting... except for poor Murphy. And my goodness how long a minute really is.

 

[Orlaam]

Video is really really disturbing with this degree of audio clarity.

MOO There's a sound before Murphy starts actively barking. I wonder if the felon shoved or kicked him. MOO

He thinks the female voice says, "who are you? Get out." But he admits it's all but impossible to be sure. Still, it's chilling.

GH has him entering that house possibly closer to 4:15. It fits with what we've learned IMO.

Fast, fast terror of destruction.

I posted a long response on that video. My YT comments are often removed though, so we'll see what happens, lol. I don't think much can be gleaned from the camera audio, except the screams and thud surrounding Xana's attack at 4:17. I do feel as though her scream is "Oh god help us....help us", then the sound of her falling to the ground as his attack continues. It sounds a lot like "oh god" and "help us", since Ethan is in the room. It doesn't sound like "help me" or anything singular. It could be anything though. I do not believe you can truly speculate on any other sounds or voices in this feed. I have Ring cameras, and these small internet streaming cams have a lot of noise when there is nothing going on. I have one in the bedroom where I can watch my cat when I'm at work. My house is very quiet, as is the neighborhood. With no sounds, the camera feed always has little musical sounds in the background and it picks up a lot of noise. If the house were to make a settling sound, it sounds like a loud bang. When I had cameras outdoors at my last house I always heard things, would go outside immediately and see nothing. Sure, we can rely on the car sounds, dog barking, and unfortunately, Xana screaming/whimpering. I don't put much stock into anything else. I have to laugh at some of the speculation on YouTube about what they hear.

I also commented on an stabbing attack video, reportedly out of China, many years ago. A man approached another man from behind and assaulted him with a knife. The entire event was captured on video. From the initial attack to the point where the individual was no longer conscious, 30 seconds had passed. He tried to defend himself and even get away, but was pulled back and attacked further. Depending on the injury, some critical stab wounds can result in consciousness lasting several minutes or hours. In this case, BK had to ensure he had finished with each victim or they would have been able to call 911. When you watch that video, the amount of blood is crazy. There is no way BK didn't have a significant amount of transfer on his arms, hands, and other places on him. Three or four stab wounds? Sure, likely no blood transfer. But the reported 30-50 wounds, on Xana alone? No way he wasn't contaminated. No question he had to remove a set of clothing before entering his car to keep the car so clean. Honestly, short of leaving the shealth behind, he never would have been caught imo.

 

[Ghostwheel]

RSBM

Is there a crime scene photo showing a rogue boot?

RSBM.

There is, in fact, a photo with a rogue boot in the living room. 8:44 in the Law and Crime body cam Video

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Before the table was moved

After they moved the table

 

[LadyL]

DM heard "there's someone here/there". What if that's the same audio the neighbor camera picked up and it was XK saying "get out of here"?

I think this happened even faster than the fast time I was thinking. From 7 minutes to 3.

DM opened her door three times. Twice, there was nothing there, nothing to see (though there must have been sounds to hear), uncanny that she didn't see the felon go up or down the stairs, see him pursue XK -- with a 3 minute timeline, she must have just missed those actions by seconds.

Scarier than any movie.

JMO

Surely you don't mean it took only three minutes for the entire incident? With the amount of stabbing, there's no way it took only three minutes to murder them all.

 

[gremlin444]

Is there a crime scene photo showing a rogue boot?

I think XK and KG were in sleepwear and barefoot, I think the felon was the only one on the staircase and it's he whom DM heard. Maybe with Murphy who would have had reasons to explore. JITB ... and an intruder...

However, I do think it's possible -- that XK slipped on whatever shoes were available, if she went outside to retrieve her food -- and kicked them off, perhaps when he chased her to her room.

In the most recent ISP photo dump, there is a crime scene photo (113) with one doc marten boot in the living room, kind of in the middle of the room. In the same photo dump, photo 111 shows that boot's mate on it's side on the floor right next to the left end of the couch:



I don't any other shoes in the living room, and no shoes at all on the 3rd floor stairs or the hall to xana's room.

IMHO, the problem with the idea of Xana having put on boots/shoes to go get her food, and that was what made the clompy shoe noise on the stairs that DM thought she heard.....is that Xana was found without any pants on. She was wearing a sweatshirt and thong undies and that is all.

Even with boots on, Xana's not going outside via the backdoor and around to the front to grab her food wearing a sweatshirt and thong underwear on a cold Nov night in Idaho.

Sure, there is a small chance she had on very baggie sweatpants, slid into some docs to go outside to get food.....but in order to be found as she was (wearing just the sweatshirt and thong undies), we'd have to believe something like this happened:

--grab food from outside, walk back around to patio door go back to her room
--slip off her sweatpants, and leave the boots on....
--leave her room and then go up the 3rd floor steps to see what is going on
--immediately be chased down the stairs
--kicks off both her boots in the living room while running
--attacked and murdered
--found in room wearing just the sweatshirt and thong undies

And I don't see her taking off sweats/bottoms in her room after removing boots...deciding to leave her room to go to kitchen or up to the 3rd floor and putting on boots just to do that.

I think the likeliest and simplest solution is that what DM thought was boots was either BK (heavier body, doesn't matter what shoes he was wearing), or the sounds of Xana and BK running down the stairs and past her room, IMHO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

In the most recent ISP photo dump, there is a crime scene photo (113) with one doc marten boot in the living room, kind of in the middle of the room. In the same photo dump, photo 111 shows that boot's mate on it's side on the floor right next to the left end of the couch:

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I don't any other shoes in the living room, and no shoes at all on the 3rd floor stairs or the hall to xana's room.

IMHO, the problem with the idea of Xana having put on boots/shoes to go get her food, and that was what made the clompy shoe noise on the stairs that DM thought she heard.....is that Xana was found without any pants on. She was wearing a sweatshirt and thong undies and that is all.

Even with boots on, Xana's not going outside via the backdoor and around to the front to grab her food wearing a sweatshirt and thong underwear on a cold Nov night in Idaho.

Sure, there is a small chance she had on very baggie sweatpants, slid into some docs to go outside to get food.....but in order to be found as she was (wearing just the sweatshirt and thong undies), we'd have to believe something like this happened:

--grab food from outside, walk back around to patio door go back to her room
--slip off her sweatpants, and leave the boots on....
--leave her room and then go up the 3rd floor steps to see what is going on
--immediately be chased down the stairs
--kicks off both her boots in the living room while running
--attacked and murdered
--found in room wearing just the sweatshirt and thong undies

And I don't see her taking off sweats/bottoms in her room after removing boots...deciding to leave her room to go to kitchen or up to the 3rd floor and putting on boots just to do that.

I think the likeliest and simplest solution is that what DM thought was boots was either BK (heavier body, doesn't matter what shoes he was wearing), or the sounds of Xana and BK running down the stairs and past her room, IMHO.

Interesting that there is proof of someone wearing Doc Marten boots and DM mentioning she heard them on the stairs at some point. They can be clunky (noisy) with those lug soles. I still have a pair I've owned for 12+ years.

The entire timeline is ironic to me, the murderer getting in, Xana being awake for the DD order, the major struggle that took place with the murderer and Xana and the attack on Ethan in the bedroom.

DM opening the door one last time to check things out and the murderer quickly passing her by and heading out the slider.

We will probably never know the exact sequence of events, although we now have a pretty good idea.

imo

 

[squareandrabbet]

Interesting that there is proof of someone wearing Doc Marten boots and DM mentioning she heard them on the stairs at some point. They can be clunky (noisy) with those lug soles. I still have a pair I've owned for 12+ years.

The entire timeline is ironic to me, the murderer getting in, Xana being awake for the DD order, the major struggle that took place with the murderer and Xana and the attack on Ethan in the bedroom.

DM opening the door one last time to check things out and the murderer quickly passing her by and heading out the slider.

We will probably never know the exact sequence of events, although we now have a pretty good idea.

Also, if the DoorDash driver explained they had to mill around for 15 minutes in order to find the house, this explains why Xana might have decided she wanted to warm up her food in the middle of it.

 

[Megnut]

In watching multiple GH videos over the last week, it's beyond obvious that the felon was interested only in 1122 King Road, but what drives it home for me are the movements of the Elantra relative to the DDD. Clearly he has studied all the sightlines, front, back and even from a distance, between other buildings.

Complicating things for him, the DDD was driving around, parking twice. And he was watching that, as best he could, while trying not to get watched.

IMO he would have had two concerns -- one, whether that driver was a threat to his mission, and two, whether his target was in that car. IMO that's why he drove up behind the DDD, to see who got out, to see if it was his target.

AT, bless her heart, did a grand job trying to convince the public that, yes, he was driving around, but certainly not over there. No, stalking, nope. Fine. I won't call it stalking. I'll call it predatory shark circling.

And once he entered the house, he went directly upstairs. Think how fast assailants knife complete strangers at public events and subways. If MM had been alone, he could have been in and out of that house in a minute. Which was likely his intent. Months in planning, minutes in transfer mitigation, seconds in execution.

Devastating results.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

In watching multiple GH videos over the last week, it's beyond obvious that the felon was interested only in 1122 King Road, but what drives it home for me are the movements of the Elantra relative to the DDD. Clearly he has studied all the sightlines, front, back and even from a distance, between other buildings.

Complicating things for him, the DDD was driving around, parking twice. And he was watching that, as best he could, while trying not to get watched.

IMO he would have had two concerns -- one, whether that driver was a threat to his mission, and two, whether his target was in that car. IMO that's why he drove up behind the DDD, to see who got out, to see if it was his target.

AT, bless her heart, did a grand job trying to convince the public that, yes, he was driving around, but certainly not over there. No, stalking, nope. Fine. I won't call it stalking. I'll call it predatory shark circling.

And once he entered the house, he went directly upstairs. Think how fast assailants knife complete strangers at public events and subways. If MM had been alone, he could have been in and out of that house in a minute. Which was likely his intent. Months in planning, minutes in transfer mitigation, seconds in execution.

Devastating results.

JMO

I know it's pointless to try to figure out what he was thinking, but if he saw the door-dash driver, why would he enter the house? The delivery meant someone was awake. Did he not care? Did he not know? Or did he time it so he entered as XK went downstairs to the front door? How CLOSELY was he indeed watching?

jmopinion