Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/3/14 Hearing

[ZsaZsa]

Yeah but, but…. I don't think that is what Mollyandme was talking about. I think she was referring to the Honorable Judge Sherry Stevens conducting a locked, private, secret and sealed courtroom where she kicked out the media, public and anyone else that wasn't council, jury, defendant and victim's family. She threw the First Amendment out the window, and went back to Star Chamber days. So, not only has she sealed all sidebars and almost all hearings, she blacked out the courtroom and had a secret trial last Thursday and part of Monday, that is until the Court of Appeals appealed her. She is a loose cannon now in a lot of eyes. I think that was what Mollyandme was referring to. JSS is not just trying to prevent an appeal, she is creating appeals. IMO

Really. I've never seen a Judge with less backbone than this one....

 

[Quester]

Just caught up on today's events and OMG! :silenced: :censored: <modsniped in advance>

No witnesses til next Wed!

Everything today again argued/decided at secret sidebar!

Playing tiddlywinks with the jurors time!
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JSS get a grip! ullhair:

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:viking:- I may be completely cured of my interest in following cases after this one!

 

[mydirtysecret]

Oyyyyy..what a tough day for Oklahoma. I just can't with this trial, now this. I'm pulling a kirk and taking my toys for awhile while I go pout

 

[daisydomino]

I'm frustrated and disheartened. I had to walk away and really think hard about whether or not I want to follow this trial any more.

I have nothing helpful and true to add to the conversations here, so I transcribed Juan Martinez' words from the AZCentral.com raw video of today's hearing. I liked what he said and I hated everything else.

Juan Martinez

...considerations that the court has to look at in making its decision on whether or not we should proceed on Wednesday, as you indicated, at 10:00. The first one is under Rule 19 in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure. That sets out the rules that gives you, the judge, the discretion to order the defendant to go forward. I believe that you should exercise that discretion. We actually even advised the jury of the order of the proceedings that is contained or set out in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure.

The thing that should not be lost in this argument of whether or not we should proceed in this sort of “star chamber” approach to things is the victims’ rights. The victims also have a constitutional right to continue. One of the things that I indicated to the Court of Appeals yesterday was that, when they were talking about the Stay, I opposed the Stay should proceed. The reason that I cited was that the victims have a right to continue with these proceedings. Somehow their constitutional rights have not been addressed by defense counsel’s request.

The other thing that we must consider is that we have a jury that has been impaneled—a jury that has been told that they are to serve until the 18th of December.

These are all factors that must be considered by you in deciding whether or not we should take the defendant’s position that we are not going to go forward just because they received a ruling that they did not like. And whether they like it or not—and they’re saying it’s not a ruling on the merits—it’s still an order of a higher court that says, “It is ordered staying the enforcement of the Superior Court’s ruling of October 30th which closed the courtroom to the public.”

It did not stay these particular proceedings, and what they are asking you to do is stay these proceedings. They didn’t ask you in so many words, but that is what they’re asking you to do.

I am requesting that you not follow their request and that you not stay the rest of the proceedings in this case. The rules are there for everybody to follow and it appears that in this particular case, because of a ruling they did not like, they are holding this process hostage. They are saying, “Just because we received a ruling that we did not like, we are now going to try to sabotage the process until some time later on down the road.”

We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday.

There is no reason why we cannot proceed and I ask that you look at and consider Rule 19, victims’ rights, and the fact that the jury is already impaneled and have been told that we are going to be here until December 18th. In light of those things, and in light of the ruling that only talks to the issue of whether or not we are going to close the proceedings, I ask that we proceed—as you indicated—tomorrow, Wednesday, at 10:00.

Thank you.

 

[NashBridges2]

I don't know about you guys but at this point, can we just get a HECK YA, at least they convicted her of first degree murder.

Death or no death, put a fork in her, she's DONE.

 

[ElleElle]

More goodies ...

http://judgepedia.org/Sherry_K._Stephens

 

[Reagan]

Temper?

It reminds me of an episode of lockup that I've seen in that very jail. There were inmates wrapped up on their hands and wrists like that because they were punching walls, and slamming their wrists in between the rotating stool and wall. A new inmate had arrived and said she'd never punch walls like those other stupid girls. By the end of the episode, her hand was wrapped for punching walls, too. So it made me laugh when I seen JA wearing that.

Eta: I hope my post made sense. I am battling a wicked flu

 

[HarvestMoon]

I don't know about you guys but at this point, can we just get a HECK YA, at least they convicted her of first degree murder.

Death or no death, put a fork in her, she's DONE.

Personally, I'd like to see her over done. As she's keeping the family of Travis from being able to go home and try to put their lives back together.

 

[Renee110]

All this secret stuff the defense has tried so hard to hide will come out eventually. It might not be tomorrow or this week or next week (or maybe it will). But certainly, eventually, the public will find out the details.

So that makes it alright, for it to be secret now because eventually it will come out? Where I come from, if people are trying to keep something hidden and secret it is usually because they have something to hide, because they don't want anyone seeing what they are doing.. If I were a defendant and everyone was trying to keep secrets, I would cry foul. Let other experts see and hear what decisions are. What are they afraid of?

 

[Caylee Advocate]

All the drawing, coloring and writing finally catching up to her?

Yeah, those little tiny pencils (made to be used for bowling scores or lottery cards) are a real pain. Looks like she might have overdone her creative writing and artistic tracings. :gaah:

 

[AngelWings444]

Notice the black wrist brace.



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Forget the brace. What happened to her hair and how did she get highlights? Did she cry to the judge that her gray didn't line up with a "young girl?" She had eyeliner on the other day, which could have been from her pencils. But, there is no way she could get those highlights from being outside 1 hour a day? Maybe it's the camera angle or no shower/greasy hair day. Odd. Sorry to quote her pic. Maria is looking a little rough. Didn't even recognize her.

 

[MeeBee]

It reminds me of an episode of lockup that I've seen in that very jail. There were inmates wrapped up on their hands and wrists like that because they were punching walls, and slamming their wrists in between the rotating stool and wall. A new inmate had arrived and said she'd never punch walls like those other stupid girls. By the end of the episode, her hand was wrapped for punching walls, too. So it made me laugh when I seen JA wearing that.

Eta: I hope my post made sense. I am battling a wicked flu

I thought the exact same thing!!!!

 

[AngelWings444]

Thanks Daisy! You are awesome!

 

[atthelake]

I'm frustrated and disheartened. I had to walk away and really think hard about whether or not I want to follow this trial any more.

I have nothing helpful and true to add to the conversations here, so I transcribed Juan Martinez' words from the AZCentral.com raw video of today's hearing. I liked what he said and I hated everything else.

Juan Martinez

...considerations that the court has to look at in making its decision on whether or not we should proceed on Wednesday, as you indicated, at 10:00. The first one is under Rule 19 in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure. That sets out the rules that gives you, the judge, the discretion to order the defendant to go forward. I believe that you should exercise that discretion. We actually even advised the jury of the order of the proceedings that is contained or set out in the Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure.

The thing that should not be lost in this argument of whether or not we should proceed in this sort of “star chamber” approach to things is the victims’ rights. The victims also have a constitutional right to continue. One of the things that I indicated to the Court of Appeals yesterday was that, when they were talking about the Stay, I opposed the Stay should proceed. The reason that I cited was that the victims have a right to continue with these proceedings. Somehow their constitutional rights have not been addressed by defense counsel’s request.

The other thing that we must consider is that we have a jury that has been impaneled—a jury that has been told that they are to serve until the 18th of December.

These are all factors that must be considered by you in deciding whether or not we should take the defendant’s position that we are not going to go forward just because they received a ruling that they did not like. And whether they like it or not—and they’re saying it’s not a ruling on the merits—it’s still an order of a higher court that says, “It is ordered staying the enforcement of the Superior Court’s ruling of October 30th which closed the courtroom to the public.”

It did not stay these particular proceedings, and what they are asking you to do is stay these proceedings. They didn’t ask you in so many words, but that is what they’re asking you to do.

I am requesting that you not follow their request and that you not stay the rest of the proceedings in this case. The rules are there for everybody to follow and it appears that in this particular case, because of a ruling they did not like, they are holding this process hostage. They are saying, “Just because we received a ruling that we did not like, we are now going to try to sabotage the process until some time later on down the road.”

We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday.

There is no reason why we cannot proceed and I ask that you look at and consider Rule 19, victims’ rights, and the fact that the jury is already impaneled and have been told that we are going to be here until December 18th. In light of those things, and in light of the ruling that only talks to the issue of whether or not we are going to close the proceedings, I ask that we proceed—as you indicated—tomorrow, Wednesday, at 10:00.

Thank you.

Thanks ! Having issues with computer and appreciative

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[mydirtysecret]

I thought the exact same thing!!!!

So just a bunch of randoms punching metal stools? Well, they aren't in there because they make good choices. Not shocking.

 

[casesensitive]

JSS has gone beyond any logical explanations to justify her actions. Any understandable precautions on her part to avoid a mistrial no longer holds water. It is reasonable to assume that she has decided, as we all have individually decided, whether or not CMJA deserves the DP. My guess is that she doesn't want a DP verdict from the jury.

It is crucial to ask potential jurors about their feelings re the DP. I assume that judges must also pass this test before they ever have the occasion to actually preside over one. Was she ever comfortable with the DP? Would she forgo promotions in her career by stating her true feelings? This is her first DP case. IMO she was never up to the task for a DP case, and this may explain her behavior from the beginning. She needs to resign.

 

[AngelWings444]

"We know there are witnesses who could be called. There was also that witness who was on the witness stand who can be called on Wednesday." Juan Martinez. November 4, 2014.

This makes me believe 1000000% that CMJA was the secret witness! She was the witness who was on the stand on Wednesday and since she is already in custody, they could easily put her back up there and complete testimony. JMO

(Thanks Daisy for transcribi)

 

[LinasK]

Been gone all day, I started working so I won't be able to follow as closely. Can anybody briefly catch me up on what happened today? Or was it much of anything?

 

[cindymac]

Video of today's hearing!!!

http://www.azcentral.com/videos/news/local/mesa/2014/11/04/18487455/

Thank you zebra.

And love the way the camera person "accidentally" jolted the camera so we'd have a better view of Arias and de la Rosa's whisper-fest.

Not so pleased, however, to hear Nurmi's voice again.... ZZZzzzzzzz.

 

[Sulamith]

I still think the witness from CA is Mr. Vernon Parker. He was TA's and Deanna Reeves' Mormon bishop in Riverside.

I thought that too but then I remembered the state is the one who is calling him. I think it's aunt Sue, her sister or someone else from Jodi's past like Patti or Darryl Brewer.

I first read that it was the state that called him but then I read that it was the defense that called him to testify. MOO