Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/01/14 In recess

[Love Never Fails]

Who is this Mark McGee person? Enquiring Minds Want to Know!

A guy Travis went to school with when they were young, and has been all over the Internet with rumors for years. A real nut case. Juan will destroy him.

 

[Nali87]

I think he has to an extent thrown in the towel and is caving to some of her demands.

It is probably a witness she found and I'm sure he can't just let not the guy testify. But still, they all make me sick.

 

[Bernina]

Would someone be so kind to post copies of the Motion.

I am unable to access past page 1 (and it doesn't say much). TIA!!

Go here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Arias-Alexander-forum&p=11259442#post11259442

Click on the image to enlarge, or go here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByBlLbpcgb3wcm8yaFhQUE8zMVE/view

 

[Truthy]

Sorry to ask, but no witness testimony today? Anyone know who is expected up next? I need more Martinez!

 

[tandt]

A guy Travis went to school with when they were young, and has been all over the Internet with rumors for years. A real nut case. Juan will destroy him.

Really? I'll have to google this and catch myself up. thx!

(and not that a bit of this should make a damn to this convicted murderer's sentencing-- I don't care if Travis had sex with goats, she brutally murdered him and should face the death penalty for it)

 

[Bernina]

Bringing this over from the Sidebar: Ummmm.............only the public and media would be prejudiced, and they're not the ones sitting in the jury box. I say "MAJOR FAIL".

 

[Quester]

IANAL & IDK if possible in court but ...

I'm sensing the DT planned for JA to temporarily take the stand in secrecy and with the following goals, JMO:

• Talk much and long about childhood lovely things
• Leave jurors with lovely imagery: first to hold newborn sister, etc
• Keep talking until prevented from doing so
• Never reference TA or get to stories about life after having met TA
• When prevented from further secret testimony, refuse to testify further, refuse cross-examination, agree to strike given testimony from the record and not considered by the jury [note: they won't forget]
• If forced to be cross examined I believe JM could only cross on topics addressed in direct - AZL: is that true? TIA
• Just need to connect with one juror to thwart a DP conviction

Remember, the DT told JA that she has no, zip, zilch, nada mitigators.

 

[Steve44]

It is probably a witness she found and I'm sure he can't just let not the guy testify. But still, they all make me sick.

She should offer them paper bags to put over their heads. If they still refuse, oh well. Not sure she has the guts, though.

 

[Meemaw12]

Who is this Mark McGee person? Enquiring Minds Want to Know!

https://m.facebook.com/BestNewsSite...2.1073741830.372063369565525/594230300682163/

 

[AZlawyer]

IANAL & IDK if possible in court but ...

I'm sensing the DT planned for JA to temporarily take the stand in secrecy and with the following goals, JMO:

• Talk much and long about childhood lovely things
• Leave jurors with lovely imagery: first to hold newborn sister, etc
• Keep talking until prevented from doing so
• Never reference TA or get to stories about life after having met TA
• When prevented from further secret testimony, refuse to testify further, refuse cross-examination, agree to strike given testimony from the record and not considered by the jury [note: they won't forget]
• If forced to be cross examined I believe JM could only cross on topics addressed in direct - AZL: is that true? TIA
• Just need to connect with one juror to thwart a DP conviction

Remember, the DT told JA that she has no, zip, zilch, nada mitigators.

JM would not be limited to topics covered on direct with all witnesses, but with JA the judge might be able to order him to stay within the scope of direct due to JA's right to remain silent. If I were JM, though, I would argue that she's waived her right to remain silent on every topic covered in the other trial phase as well!

 

[Nali87]

https://m.facebook.com/BestNewsSite...2.1073741830.372063369565525/594230300682163/

:laughing: Oh God, please let it be this guy! Put him on the stand please, put him on!

 

[MeeBee]

Please tell me it can be easily proven that he's nuts. What's his backstory?

Not to worry. He's just a nut ball supporter from NZ who claims he went to school/church with Travis and caught him looking at child and confronted him over it. He also confronted him over "abusing" women, which entails having sex with them and not marrying them, the DT's loose definition of abuse. He says Deanna was abused and was just too stupid to understand it.

I promise you, it's BS and the only way the DT would even fathom putting him on is because Jodi is making them and only if he can testify in secret so the world doesn't laugh at Nurmi for putting on someone who they literally found on the internet and who was dumb enough to lie for Jodi.

His claims are ridiculous. If she doesn't get the death penalty after this guy goes up, I don't know if anything will. And I suspect Nurmi understands this is suicide to their case, thus his claim that he and Willmott will be scrutinized if (when) she gets the death penalty.

 

[Nali87]

JSS sure turned out to be a disappointment. Imo, all this latest BS could have been prevented. Now we have more motions, motions that need to be argued in front of her in open court, motions that need to be argued in secret hearings, blah blah blah, basically her decision has led to nothing but precious time being wasted.

 

[Hope4More]

I also think Nurmi thought all this testimony from Jodi, Dr F and this New Zealand nut might fly and he did not count on Juan successfully getting the truth out of Dr F that Travis was NOT a pedophile. Shame on Nurmi. My guess is he is never planning on having the NZ nut testify now anyway.

Curious...I don't think he ever planned on the NZ nut testifying either. The guy has zero credibility, and I can't believe Nurmi would dare have him testify.

NZ is playing his role by refusing to testify unless the impermissible is granted, IMO.

It's silly and insulting to the intelligence either way. Once upon a time in this same trial JSS made it clear adequate measures could be taken to "protect" reluctant witnesses so they could testify.

Not sure if JSS remembers those saner days, but I suspect JM will remind her of them if need be.

 

[Nali87]

Not to worry. He's just a nut ball supporter from NZ who claims he went to school/church with Travis and caught him looking at child and confronted him over it. He also confronted him over "abusing" women, which entails having sex with them and not marrying them, the DT's loose definition of abuse. He says Deanna was abused and was just too stupid to understand it.

I promise you, it's BS and the only way the DT would even fathom putting him on is because Jodi is making them and only if he can testify in secret so the world doesn't laugh at Nurmi for putting on someone who they literally found on the internet and who was dumb enough to lie for Jodi.

His claims are ridiculous. If she doesn't get the death penalty after this guy goes up, I don't know if anything will. And I suspect Nurmi understands this is suicide to their case, thus his claim that he and Willmott will be scrutinized if (when) she gets the death penalty.

I hope it's him. I am/was afraid it's someone "credible" that might create doubt in the jurors minds.
I can't believe that Travis who led people to believe he was a virgin, was somehow out there telling people he was a pedophile. How does that even make sense?

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents

Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
11/26/2014 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 11/26/2014
11/26/2014 REQ - Request - Party (001) 11/26/2014
NOTE: News Organizations Request for Order Unsealing Transcript of October 30, 2014 Witness Testimony and Related Proceedings
11/26/2014 MFR - Motion For Reconsideration - Party (001) 12/1/2014
NOTE: DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION: MOTION TO DISMISS STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK THE DEATH PENALTY DUE TO DEFENDANT'S INABILITY TO PRESENT A COMPLETE CASE FOR LIFE

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

 

[BritsKate]

The more this trial lingers on, the more I hate Arias. How does she look at Travis' family and is okay with dragging this out for as long as possible? Also, how is she not scared of what happens to her after this life? I don't mean to bring religion into this but isn't she scared of what happens next? Why wouldn't she beg for forgiveness to those that matter instead of continuing to kill him over and over again with all the lies? I don't understand. I can't believe all the money wasted on this evil witch.

You're looking at this situation as a compassionate, sentient human being with a moral compass. Jodi's personality disorders very likely preclude her from feeling real fear - as you or I would experience it - of almost anything. Certainly, in place of morality is a sense of entitlement; she is void of conscience and empathy; and incapable of actual remorse. Her sense of right and wrong fluctuates and is solely determined by her - society's rules should not apply to her. To admit there is a god would force her to admit she isn't. Ergo, religion isn't high on the list of psychopathic individuals except as a tool to con or manipulate others who are spiritual. Lastly, if she fell on the mercy of the court she would be forced to accept culpability. She will never admit a wrongdoing - and actually I believe she, to her core, feels absolutely justified in slaughtering Travis. She's just lying about the why.

And the money spent probably just further feeds her narcissism and persecution complex. For that reason alone, on top of so many others, I find it infuriating too.

Oh! And to a psychopathic individual, the knock-on effect to Travis' family is better than any drug. They love to play games with people's emotions. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say many psychopaths view society like their own personal ant farm. The effect Jodi has on them; the power she holds over Travis' legacy and memory; the special considerations given to her in court - all that would be extremely intoxicating to a psychopath. She feels important, special, powerful, and in control. It doesn't get better than that for a psychopath.

JMO and FWIW

 

[MeeBee]

More on Mark McGee

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/476087349134079

 

[Quester]

JM would not be limited to topics covered on direct with all witnesses, but with JA the judge might be able to order him to stay within the scope of direct due to JA's right to remain silent. If I were JM, though, I would argue that she's waived her right to remain silent on every topic covered in the other trial phase as well!

:tyou:

If JM does as you would:

If I were JM, though, I would argue that she's waived her right to remain silent on every topic covered in the other trial phase as well! -AZL

How do you believe JSS would rule, given what you've seen of her courtroom [and besides in secret sidebar]? TIA

 

[Luvrosco]

And I hope Nurmi's private practice goes down the toilet with him and Wilmott in it. They are the worst lawyers and I hope no one hires them after this trial is over....if it ever ends!

Isn't he known for defending sexual predators? I thought I remembered that from the first trial.