Several' bodies found at Mandan, North Dakota business, 1 April 2019 *Arrest*

[cody22]

This is a strange area to search, and just has to be based on a tip.

Hopefully it’s based on a confession.

Yep.... Something is breaking on this mess of a case....moo

 

[Inthedetails]

I betcha they know who did this and they are looking for the murder weapon...moo

I'm wondering if video shows a car and/or person on foot in that large open area (fair grounds or something like that?)

jmo

 

[eucalyptuz]

The company seems large enough to be managing and maintaining many, many properties. The calls requiring keys, an inspection or a plumber/electrician/handyman probably come in steadily regardless of this.
Articles mention continued police presence and I wondering if the company are just opening reception to handle calls and rent deposits. The crime scene could be localized to other areas within the building.

 

[cody22]

I'm wondering if video shows a car and/or person on foot in that large open area (fair grounds or something like that?)

jmo

There seems to be a Trailer Park to the left of that Fairgrounds search area, as you are looking straight on , in the early part of that video.....I wonder now if this possibly was just a darn tool and petty cash burglary gone real bad....moo

 

[Mercedes]

Good article, Gordian. And, apparently, Adam F’s wife works there and she also returned to work today.

I need to correct the part about Adam F’s wife. I apologize.

 

[Mercedes]

Adam F.'s wife is not mentioned in the article. The owner's wife is. The owner was Robert Fakler.

"Fakler’s wife and company co-owner Jackie Fakler returned to work Wednesday as a police officer monitored the parking lot. She and other workers declined comment, saying they were dealing with a difficult time."

I stand corrected. I apologize for my mistake.

 

[zecats]

Adam F.'s wife is not mentioned in the article. The owner's wife is. The owner was Robert Fakler.

"Fakler’s wife and company co-owner Jackie Fakler returned to work Wednesday as a police officer monitored the parking lot. She and other workers declined comment, saying they were dealing with a difficult time."

Well at least we now know her whereabouts. There is no information on her location while all of this was happening, right?

I'm stunned that she's able to go to work 2 days after her husband and employees were killed. I'm not being negative - I'm truly stunned that she has the courage and the desire. I hope this is helpful to them all in healing from this tragedy.

 

[GordianKnot]

I need to correct the part about Adam F’s wife. I apologize.

No big deal whatsoever, and certainly no need to apologize, Em!

 

[Mountain Misst]

What does alarm me is the silence; need for tight lips more than two days later. Is there the potential for another life to be at stake?

 

[Inthedetails]

Well at least we now know her whereabouts. There is no information on her location while all of this was happening, right?

I'm stunned that she's able to go to work 2 days after her husband and employees were killed. I'm not being negative - I'm truly stunned that she has the courage and the desire. I hope this is helpful to them all in healing from this tragedy.

It might be as straightforward as there are checks or business documents to sign, etc. Or maybe only she/deceased husband have access to locked areas, etc. and she needed to show up physically to take care of some things. She might also need to take an assessment/inventory of what condition the business is in and how to delegate or coordinate operations with so many people now gone. With four people now gone, that leaves many tasks that need to be handled by someone else, and it would be her decision to on how that will happen. I'm sure it is not business as usual yet.

jmo

 

[tlcya]

It might be as straightforward as there are checks or business documents to sign, etc. Or maybe only she/deceased husband have access to locked areas, etc. and she needed to show up physically to take care of some things. She might also need to take an assessment/inventory of what condition the business is in and how to delegate or coordinate operations with so many people now gone. With four people now gone, that leaves many tasks that need to be handled by someone else, and it would be her decision to on how that will happen. I'm sure it is not business as usual yet.

jmo

that was my thought as well, with both owners/spouses being employed there unfortunately, whether the JF wanted to be there today or simply had to I can't imagine how difficult it was to walk thru those doors.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Well at least we now know her whereabouts. There is no information on her location while all of this was happening, right?

I'm stunned that she's able to go to work 2 days after her husband and employees were killed. I'm not being negative - I'm truly stunned that she has the courage and the desire. I hope this is helpful to them all in healing from this tragedy.

I'm thinking that Mrs F may have been at home. If they have children it may have been best to have someone at home in the mornings. (breakfast, getting them off to school, daycare etc.) I'm sure she's suffering greatly. Having a support system of other people who are also affected can be helpful during grief. JMO

 

[NickoD]

What does alarm me is the silence; need for tight lips more than two days later. Is there the potential for another life to be at stake?

IMO this extreme secrecy now boils down into two options:
a) the police know exactly who did this and need the silence to not alert them and build their case while an arrest warrant is imminent
b) the police really have no idea, the scene has been compromised to an embarrassing point (see JBR case) and they have no idea how to communicate that without looking bad

 

[MassGuy]

IMO this extreme secrecy now boils down into two options:
a) the police know exactly who did this and need the silence to not alert them and build their case while an arrest warrant is imminent
b) the police really have no idea, the scene has been compromised to an embarrassing point (see JBR case) and they have no idea how to communicate that without looking bad

Generally, it’s easy for us to gauge what is going on in an investigation, when we are talking about a police department in a large town or city.

We’re used to seeing a pretty standard set of statements and responses.

Here, I can’t tell if this is simply a really unusual case, or if law enforcement is overmatched.

I’ve never seen this before.

 

[zecats]

I'm thinking that Mrs F may have been at home. If they have children it may have been best to have someone at home in the mornings. (breakfast, getting them off to school, daycare etc.) I'm sure she's suffering greatly. Having a support system of other people who are also affected can be helpful during grief. JMO

Their daughter works there as well, as bookkeeper.

Robert & Jackie Fakler: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

There are 22 employees listed on the RJR “Meet Our Team” section of the official website. On his Facebook page, one of Jackie Fakler’s cousins says he is employed at RJR. The couple’s daughter is a bookkeeper for RJR. The business has been in operation for more than 20 years, collecting rents for landlords, organizing rentals of apartments and maintaining buildings for landlords, along with snow and lawn care.

 

[Hazelnutty]

I see what you mean.

I get more of a Todd Kohlhepp vibe. Todd Kohlhepp and Superbike: Doubts, no doubt, how and why

I've also had a Todd Kohlhepp vibe since I first read about these murders.

 

[Mountain Misst]

IMO - moreso a murder suicide situation...

 

[PrairieWind]

It might be as straightforward as there are checks or business documents to sign, etc. Or maybe only she/deceased husband have access to locked areas, etc. and she needed to show up physically to take care of some things. She might also need to take an assessment/inventory of what condition the business is in and how to delegate or coordinate operations with so many people now gone. With four people now gone, that leaves many tasks that need to be handled by someone else, and it would be her decision to on how that will happen. I'm sure it is not business as usual yet.

jmo

I would agree with this. Probably open on a limited basis. There are some minimum operations that will have to be conducted: collecting those rents, making payments to owners and/or mortgage companies, fielding tenant calls and scheduling services, signing checks, etc. The wife could be there mostly to delegate responsibilities and authority to other people now. Then she can step back again.

 

[PrairieWind]

IMO - moreso a murder suicide situation...

I wondered about that as well. But LE referred to them all as victims. Still a possibility I suppose.

 

[Inthedetails]

IMO - moreso a murder suicide situation...

LE has essentially ruled out a murder-suicide scenario, iirc.

They haven't recovered a weapon.

jmo