Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Rescued from Cave, 23 June 2018 #6

[DakotaMayi]

I think the King should automatically make them Thai citizens. If he is wise he will do this as an act of good will so that they can travel. Anywhere the Wild Boars team goes they will be like ambassadors for Thailand. Majority of people will not know anything about the nationality issues in that area of Thailand/Myanmar and will just see them all as Thai boys anyway. JMO.

(PS: I'm aware there are a lot of complicated political/social/religious issues that contributed to them being called "stateless" but it would not be the first time a world leader declared someone a citizen in order to foster good will or to reward someone for their acts of bravery).

I agree. I mean, Saudi gave citizenship to that creepy Sophia robot, I am sure something can be done for these Thai boys.

 

[Spellbound]

[note: I don't rely on Daily Mail to always be accurate]

Thai cave boys wave from hospital beds as first footage emerges of their rescue | Daily Mail Online

THAI CAVE BOYS 'SLEEPING' DURING RESCUE MISSION
The 12 Wild Boar FC boys were passed 'sleeping' on stretchers through the caves, according to one of the former Thai Navy SEALs who took part in the mission.

'Some of them were asleep, some of them were wiggling their fingers... (as if) groggy, but they were breathing,' Commander Chaiyananta Peeranarong said.

He added that doctors stationed along the dark corridors of the Tham Luang cave were constantly checking their condition and pulse.

'My job was to transfer them along,' he said, adding the 'boys were wrapped up in stretchers already when they were being transferred'.

This is one of several reports of the children being 'drugged' or 'sedated' for the rescue.

Earlier today, a Spanish diver said 'at least four' were drugged .

Fernando Raigal, who has 12 years of experience of commercial diving, claimed the rescuers had no other option.

He told the BBC: 'The boys were sedated. They were unconscious [during the evacuation]. They were breathing but they were drugged.'

This has been strongly denied by Thai authorities, including Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-chau, who refuted sedation claims and added that had been given anti-anxiety medication, 'the same he takes to help him relax when he shoots guns'.

 

[*Verdigris]

In the video above, (thanks Spellbound) there are only 7 boys
shown over and over. Have we seen the other 5 boys and coach?
Still worried about a couple and coach too.

...arg. please no. enelram you are just about always spot on... so don't say that!

But I'm sure they just need a couple of extra days. These were the first 8... (the 8th one is lying down, right side background gurney) so they've had a little more time to recover.
yep.

 

[Spellbound]

Nocookies

Dr Thongchai said the three Thai navySEALS and Thai army medic, who were the last to emerge from the cave just after 10pm last night were also doing well.

It is understood they too will remain in quarantine for 48 hours while they underwent the same thorough medical assessment as the boys and their coach.

But Thai leader Prayuth Chan-ocha told reporters medical experts were forced to sedate some of the boys for their own safety during the treacherous evacuation effort through the flooded cave network.

A Thai military doctor also told media that the boys had been sedated before the challenging dive effort.

Health official Jesada Chokedamrongsuk said the full team appeared happy and had recorded no signs of fever which was a positive sign after nearly three weeks with limited food.

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Thai Cave Rescue Accomplished: All 12 Boys And Their Soccer Coach Are Safe
[Thai Prime Minister] Prayuth described the cave as “dangerous” and said the Thai government would close it for a while and take precautions to ensure this never happens again.

 

[Spellbound]

In the video above, (thanks Spellbound) there are only 7 boys
shown over and over. Have we seen the other 5 boys and coach?
Still worried about a couple and coach too.

Perhaps the latest rescued are separated from the others until all their medical conditions are assessed? I'm sure they don't want to spread any infections to those who are already determined to be OK.

 

[SugarQueen]

Omg!! So flipping happy to see them!! Hopefully we get one more picture showing the rest of them.

 

[Bravo]

This rescue truly made the world a better place. Given what we read here and what happens in our own Country/s. I know it inspired me and I am sure all here. It was such a positive thread despite knowing the perils ahead. My Husband knows me well as we crossed over to the good ole US of A. Are ya jonesing yet he asked cuz your off the board. We have a rule. No personal devices when we are away. A cell phone for emergency use but shut off. So I got 2 updates per CNN. I prayed these boys would make it. And they all did.

 

[Spellbound]

Coach Ek still has the full community support

Will the junior coach be able to return to normal life?

IT COULD have been his devout faith that saved them, or his reckless abandon that led them to danger.

The actions of the junior coach of the Wild Boars have been a controversial focus of the Thai cave rescue that left the world wondering, what was he thinking?

But many have now hailed Ekkapol Chantawong a hero, crediting his selfless actions for helping save the 12 boys trapped deep in a flooded cave for two weeks, as well as the religious meditation skills he taught them.

It’s not just Ekkapol’s last remaining family members who think so, the 25-year-old has the backing of the club and the wider community in general.

 

[Bravo]

I was never opposed to the sedation from the get go. One panic moment, somebody dies. Whatever it took to get them all out safely.

 

[castilloisno1]

I just wanted to thank all of you for your posts. I came here to this thread when they first found the boys and stayed throughout. This is one of those stories where everyone was talking about it. My daughter went into surgery and right before she went under,the nurses came into the operating room and announced that the coach and all the team had been rescued. My daughter said that was the best way to go to sleep having everyone around her cheering and happy.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

This rescue truly made the world a better place. Given what we read here and what happens in our own Country/s. I know it inspired me and I am sure all here. It was such a positive thread despite knowing the perils ahead. My Husband knows me well as we crossed over to the good ole US of A. Are ya jonesing yet he asked cuz your off the board. We have a rule. No personal devices when we are away. A cell phone for emergency use but shut off. So I got 2 updates per CNN. I prayed these boys would make it. And they all did.

Missed having you around these last few days, Bravo. Glad you had a good trip and even more glad we had happy news for you on your return!

 

[enelram]

Perhaps the latest rescued are separated from the others until all their medical conditions are assessed? I'm sure they don't want to spread any infections to those who are already determined to be OK.

You and Verdigris are prolly right- last ones out prolly can't have
close photographers in with them yet. I'll still feel a lot better
when I've seen them and coach.

Just want to give a personal observation here about the sedation.
Many, many years back when I got SCUBA CERTIFIED- all adults
in class- we got to choose our dive partners early on. There were
so many I would not be partners with because they all went
schizo at times during diving because of normal claustophobic
reactions and fear of being underwater and fear of maybe not
being able to breathe, panic, panic, panic.
So when this rescue first started, in my mind, with young inexperienced boys with limited swimming skills and no real
diving training- I was positively sure they would sedate all
the boys out of necessity. To insure their safety as well as
the accompanying divers. Fighting with someone underwater
with all your gear on can kill you and the other one. Experienced
lifeguards will also tell you stories of drowning victims fighting
the lifeguard out of sheer panic.
I'm just glad they're finally being up front and transparent
about this.

 

[Bravo]

I just wanted to thank all of you for your posts. I came here to this thread when they first found the boys and stayed throughout. This is one of those stories where everyone was talking about it. My daughter went into surgery and right before she went under,the nurses came into the operating room and announced that the coach and all the team had been rescued. My daughter said that was the best way to go to sleep having everyone around her cheering and happy.

I hope your Daughter is recovering nicely. As these boys are. Sending healing thoughts.

 

[Gardenista]

This rescue truly made the world a better place. Given what we read here and what happens in our own Country/s. I know it inspired me and I am sure all here. It was such a positive thread despite knowing the perils ahead. My Husband knows me well as we crossed over to the good ole US of A. Are ya jonesing yet he asked cuz your off the board. We have a rule. No personal devices when we are away. A cell phone for emergency use but shut off. So I got 2 updates per CNN. I prayed these boys would make it. And they all did.

Our country is fantastic as evidenced by how we rallied around these boys and their coach.

 

[Bravo]

You and Verdigris are prolly right- last ones out prolly can't have
close photographers in with them yet. I'll still feel a lot better
when I've seen them and coach.

Just want to give a personal observation here about the sedation.
Many, many years back when I got SCUBA CERTIFIED- all adults
in class- we got to choose our dive partners early on. There were
so many I would not be partners with because they all went
schizo at times during diving because of normal claustophobic
reactions and fear of being underwater and fear of maybe not
being able to breathe, panic, panic, panic.
So when this rescue first started, in my mind, with young inexperienced boys with limited swimming skills and no real
diving training- I was positively sure they would sedate all
the boys out of necessity. To insure their safety as well as
the accompanying divers. Fighting with someone underwater
with all your gear on can kill you and the other one. Experienced
lifeguards will also tell you stories of drowning victims fighting
the lifeguard out of sheer panic.
I'm just glad they're finally being up front and transparent
about this.

Yes as I eluded earlier I spent my teen years lifeguarding as a summer job. A child can drown a grown adult as they are panicked and their adrenaline flow is Mach 90. Throw them a life line, a shirt whatever is handy to bring them to shore. If you physically grab them odds are you both will die.

 

[Bravo]

Missed having you around these last few days, Bravo. Glad you had a good trip and even more glad we had happy news for you on your return!

Awww thanks sweets! I was soooo emotional last eve. Evident by my posts lol

 

[Gardenista]

I love the huge windows in the hospital ward with the sun streaming in. It's got to look and feel so good to them.

 

[Gardener1850]

I was a little worried about it when I first read they may have to be drugged but after seeing how the divers and rescue personnel pulled them through the cave on those stretchers it makes perfect sense. Even the parts of the cave that were walkable were very dangerous and it would have been a grueling extraction for the boys and coach in their weakened state to have to walk over those wet rocks. Also, this is horrible to think about, but the knowledge that the main cave divers are most experienced at recovering dead bodies from caves means they have excellent experience at pulling a motionless body out of an underwater cave. All they had to do was figure out the best way to keep the boys motionless and breathing so they could be carefully pulled out. I don't think they taught the boys how to dive or swim at all. Whether they only used anti-anxiety drugs or if they used full sedation, it had the best result of getting the boys and divers out alive.

 

[Gardenista]

The reporter in the article below interviewed the woman who made the scary cave-diving twitter thread that I posted a couple of days ago. Her tweet went viral.

Many here commented they couldn't read it because it was so freaking SCARY.

You can see her tweet thread here.

Puff, probably a real person on Twitter

The article

Florida cave divers — impressed with rescue in Thailand — know the dangers all too well

 

[Gardener1850]

I love the huge windows in the hospital ward with the sun streaming in. It's got to look and feel so good to them.

Didn't we read they had to wear sunglasses at first due to the light? It's good to see they have been able to take the sunglasses off so soon. Maybe the last 5 out are still in darkened rooms to protect their eyes and that is why we only have video of 8 of them so far?