Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

[BayouBelle_LA]

I remain hopeful that the boys and their coach will make it out safely.

Sending love, positivity and courage to the boys, their coach and all those involved in the rescue.

Many prayers that their guardian angels are working overtime.

 

[katydid23]

They can't dive with the boys unless the pumps are turned off. The water is described as "cold coffee". If a diver became trapped on the pump's suction tube, he might become lethally injured or run out of oxygen.

The water rises 4 inches every ten minutes the pumps are off (24 inches/hour). If the island the boys are on can become submerged, all the boys would have to enter the water within minutes of each other as the water rises so quickly when the pumps are turned off.

I might be wrong about this, but from what I understood from a recent article, the pumps are only placed in the first chambers, near the entrance. So they could leave them running, until the boys are through the first 2/3 of the journey.

So it will still be an issue, but I think it is doable. And in the coming days, the stronger pumps may arrive to help take up the slack.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Many worry that coach may blame himself for ordeal
Read more at Many worry that coach may blame himself for ordeal - ASEAN/East Asia | The Star Online

 

[keeleydoll]

If we take anything away from this experience, good or bad outcome, its this......teach your children to swim. Enrol them in swimming lessons at a very early age and keep them swimming throughout their lives. One never knows when an emergency is going to crop up that includes the need to be able to swim.

They may save themselves or they may be able to save someone else, if they have the ability to swim. I would go a step further and have them trained as lifeguards, they have some first aid certification as well.

Please, teach your kids/grandkids to swim!!

I love this and totally agree! There are swimming classes for tiny babies. My Nana has lived on the lake where little August drowned yesterday, about 5min away by boat. I spent several days every week there as a child and even when my big (12-18)kids were young. None of us was allowed near the water without a pfd (probably a 1st world luxury) and adult supervision. One of my first memories is “Never on the dock without an adult!!” They had 6’ high lynch pin locks put into the sliding doors because they were concerned about kids going into the water unsupervised.

I get that the coach had taken them to the caves several times but he should have made sure they were all in good health and able to swim before cutting it so close with monsoon season.

Seven days before monsoon season was expected they got flood waters?! We fish and hunt and I’m not a conspiracy theorist but the change that leap day is supposed to make up for isn’t doing it. We’re really looking at weather and animal’s mating seasons for those we hunt and they’re about 2.5wks-1mo earlier than they have been the last 20-30 years. I wonder if people used to spend more time in these caves and the seasons have just recently changed. It’s so hard to determine if it’s an actual geological change (they usually take a long time but depending on the composition of the rock it could happen quickly.)

 

[2Hope4]

Joining in the prayers. Wish I could physically help, but even if I was there, I'd never fit through those tunnels!

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Twitter reports from latest press conference:

Many divers can't go beyond 3rd chamber of #ThamLuang cave complex. Divers are most crucial team in this mission: Head of #ThamLuangRescue Narongsak stresses the operation is difficult, says authorities still can't locate the stranded from top of mountain http://cna.asia/2udajFU

Still finding tunnels. Drilled hundreds but couldnt really find the good one. The tools we have still cannot pinpoint the exact location of the boys #ถ้ำหลวง #thamluang

 

[rosesfromangels]

Keep drilling! Find that opening!!!!
It’s there, keep looking.
Come on angels, I know you’ve kept these kids alive so far, but we need just a little more help please!

 

[creepcrusher]

The water is draining successfully and they will continue to do so as long as they can. Per PC.

Ramillah on Twitter
These are the challenges & risks outlined in today's briefing; - Weather - Unable to identify the boys' location from outside - Falling O2, increasing CO2 - Water level - The Boys' health condition

 

[Jax49]

Live coverage?

Category: | Herald Sun

 

[Grapey]

Have been quietly following this thread from the very start. What a roller-coaster of emotions it's been for us here, imagine the ride the boys have been on

it probably means they aren't telling us anymore.

Just wanted to say, have really appreciated your level headed replies through this.

I think everyone saying 'just do this or that', don't really understand the complexity and risks involved with every option. There is no easy and safe option.

I don’t even really think the boys wrote those. Or if they did they were told to say something nice and positive and one thing they want to do.

Brant Webb, one of the survivors of the Beaconsfield mine collapse here in Australia, was on one of our morning shows yesterday talking about what the Thai boys would be going through. He said that him and his wife were able to communicate via writing letters but he found out they were being edited because they accidentally spelt his wife's name wrong in one of them so he knew it wasn't written by her. It made him lose trust in the rescuers as he felt they were lying to him.

Also even though they had a phone line they were never allowed to talk to family. He said the rescuers had their reasons for this but still, even now, he doesn't agree with the decision.

Was a really interesting interview, unsure if it's available on the net somewhere for people outside of Australia.

 

[creepcrusher]

Dowwydao on Twitter
Press - The Dept of National Park is concentrating on finding cave window from outside up the hill. Exploring many areas. So can't tell if it's found yet. Will inform everyone once found. Another team is working on searching and redirecting waterflow

 

[keeleydoll]

I might be wrong about this, but from what I understood from a recent article, the pumps are only placed in the first chambers, near the entrance. So they could leave them running, until the boys are through the first 2/3 of the journey.

So it will still be an issue, but I think it is doable. And in the coming days, the stronger pumps may arrive to help take up the slack.

I’d been wondering how far the tubing would reach. If they could get something strong enough through to either suck the water out of the deeper passages or provide passage for the kids, that would definitely be the best shot.

 

[1&2&3]

Have been away all day and dreaded what I would come back to. I can’t stress how surprised I am they have not started on the rescue mission already.

While we all are aware of the dangers, either way, the fact they have not started gives me goose bumps! I fear the expert divers feel this is such a risky process, they are praying that another method will come up at the last second.

Perhaps if there were one or two boys to get out it wouldn’t be quite as daunting. So many trips back and forth must be made, the divers know the responsibility ahead of them as well as knowing what their bodies are capable of.

If the water wasn’t there, getting these weak exhausted boys out would be a major challenge. May Buddha do what he does in times like this and let these boys and coach come out alive. We, who pray, are sending up prayers for a safe rescue.

 

[Seattle1]

Bangkok current 11:55AM
BST: + 6 hours
PST: Tomorrow +14 hours

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

SpaceX technology is working on this.

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[Gardener1850]

CHIANG RAI, THAILAND (REUTERS) - There is "limited time" to bring out 12 schoolboys and their soccer coach who have been trapped for two weeks inside a flooded cave in northern Thailand before heavy rains set in, the rescue mission's head said on Saturday (July 7).

The warning came a day after a Thai diver died during part of the rescue operation at the Tham Luang cave complex in northern Chiang Rai province.

A team of Thai Navy SEALS, soldiers, police and volunteers have been working around the clock to try and drain the cave.

Thai cave rescue: 'Limited time' for daring rescue mission to free Thailand's trapped boys

 

[Gardenista]

Have been quietly following this thread from the very start. What a roller-coaster of emotions it's been for us here, imagine the ride the boys have been on



Just wanted to say, have really appreciated your level headed replies through this.

I think everyone saying 'just do this or that', don't really understand the complexity and risks involved with every option. There is no easy and safe option.



Brant Webb, one of the survivors of the Beaconsfield mine collapse here in Australia, was on one of our morning shows yesterday talking about what the Thai boys would be going through. He said that him and his wife were able to communicate via writing letters but he found out they were being edited because they accidentally spelt his wife's name wrong in one of them so he knew it wasn't written by her. It made him lose trust in the rescuers as he felt they were lying to him.

Also even though they had a phone line they were never allowed to talk to family. He said the rescuers had their reasons for this but still, even now, he doesn't agree with the decision.

Was a really interesting interview, unsure if it's available on the net somewhere for people outside of Australia.

Beaconsfield Survivor On Thai Rescue: 'The Wait Is The ... | ten daily

 

[creepcrusher]

Thaivisa on Twitter
Musk sends Thai engineer to join rescue mission: thai.vi/2J5ydZs

Busadee Santiphithak, director-general of the Information Department, said the Thai engineer will later be joined by three more engineers from Musk’s Tesla, SpaceX and Boring companies to study rescue measures.

She said the three foreign engineers would arrive over Saturday night and Sunday and would travel to Tham Luang in Chiang Rai to consider digging a tunnel to evacuate the trapped boys.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Frisian company helping Thai cave rescue
Van Heck Group, a pump service company from the Frisian town of Noordwolde, is contributing to the rescue operations at a cave in Thailand where 12 young football players are trapped.
Translation by Traci White

Dagblad van het Noorden reports that the company is setting aside all of their other scheduled work to help develop a rescue plan for the young boys who have been trapped 3.5 kilometres inside a Thai cave for weeks.

Jeroen van Heck, the director of the company, is scheduled to arrive in Thailand on Saturday, where he will evaluate what equipment the company needs to send to help clear out areas of the cave that are currently underwater. Once Van Heck has determined which pumps and manpower the emergency operation will need, a number of employees from the Frisian company will travel to Thailand to set up them up.

The Dutch government will be assisting with transporting the equipment to Thailand. Van Heck and the Thai rescue teams on the ground were brought into contact with each other through the Dutch and Thai embassies.

According to the Noordwolde company’s website, the water control and displacement business specialises in “temporary redirections and disasters” and “emergency solutions.” The Frisian-based company has offices around the world, including Singapore, Dubai and Brazil.

Photo source: Van Heck Group

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

From ThaiArmedForces.com on twitter

Royal Cave The oxygen level in the caves decreases to 15% (from normal air levels, 21 %) is considered to be the most worrisome and critical crisis, which is not unlike the precipitation expected to be heavier that may cause all the pumping efforts to be lost.

Now everyone is working on a race against time, especially in water pumping and finding the air cavity that could be linked to the Royal Cave. To increase the possibility of bringing children through a cavity.