Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #3

[Seattle1]

Bangkok current Sunday, 2:15pm
BST: +6 hours
PST: Today +14 hours

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

ThaiPBS live TV stream. Media's not on-site right now, obvs, and it's not in English (obvs), but they're showing live shots and discussing events during its newscast.

 

[Jax49]

I can't figure out how to post this schematic (in this article) but it is the one I've been looking at. Is it wrong?

Thailand cave rescue: where were the boys found and how can they be rescued?

 

[Seattle1]

We need the Media but somebody always has to ruin it for the industry... A foreign reporter allegedly leaked news that former Thai Navy SEAL Saman Kunan had died Friday- before his family could be notified, and now the name of the Australian anaesthetist on the rescue mission who did not want to be identified has also been released. They're literally hiding in the bushes and trees right now as close to the entrance of the cave site as possible!
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Jacob Goldberg(@yayqe)

camera crews are camping out in the bushes near the entrance to the rescue site. it will be a long, wet wait. pic.twitter.com/8n0ccX3gW0

July 8, 2018

 

[margarita25]

Not going out like that. Here til the end. Embarrassed.
Going into lurk mode. Skipping all the way to the end for the latest....sorry skipping a bunch of posts..are any of the kids out yet?

 

[margarita25]

What's the latest in a nutshell, tia.

 

[MsFacetious]

Also on this page is this group of divers who've posted some pictures which ALSO seem to indicate the rescue may have started earlier.

Mikko Paasi (@mikkokohtaodivers) • Instagram photos and videos

Thai rescue: four boys begin cave escape

The live video stream doesn't show much, but it looks kinda wet and rainy there ...

 

[Amonet]

I can't figure out how to post this schematic (in this article) but it is the one I've been looking at. Is it wrong?

Thailand cave rescue: where were the boys found and how can they be rescued?

That's the schematic I have in my mind...though every time I've seen it before the left/right were reversed.

I don't think there is any way that all the boys can have already been moved to chamber three as in between the boys and chamber three is some of the hardest diving areas, from what we've heard up to now.

I am interpreting the current updates with the extra 30cm reduction in water levels to not mean that the boys can literally walk all the way out, but that there are fewer meters where they will be fully immersed, more areas where they can get their head above water, more areas that can be waded through.

We were told that between the boys and chamber three there's a 200 meter underwater section where they have to travel single file? I think it's like one of the Brit divers said about the game where you have a fox, chickens, and a sack of grain, and you have to move the chickens and the grain across a river with limits on how much you can take on each trip and you can't leave the chickens with the grain or the fox with the chickens. But in our case we've got divers going in, boys and divers coming out, and as 1 boy and his 2 attendant divers come out past certain bottleneck points, then you can send in the next divers down to the boys cave and prepare the next boy for coming out. But you don't want to end up with a bottle neck of scared boys packing those narrow passages, so they've got to be careful with the timing of achieving this back and forth movement of people. I also surmise that if the waters do start rising that they might try to reduce the time between each extraction, but just like the farmer moving the chickens and grain conundrum there will be bottlenecks where they can't go any faster.

I don't expect four boys to turn up at the entrance together. But I guess they might move 1 boy to chamber three, then send divers back for the next boy. The boy in chamber 3 gets a med check and some liquid nourishment, a break, and then does the next step (the really tight part where the o2 tank has to be removed). Then I believe there were three separate areas of 10m each fully immersed, they might have managed to get those sections reduced to head above water? And after that I *think* they might be able to carry the boys out on a stretcher...probably don't need the elite cave divers at this point and maybe two regular Seals and a medic can carry them through this section and then it should be a case of focusing on the health needs of the boy and transporting him off to hospital where he can have a full check up and get an iv in, get some rest and visit from family members.

So we might see one boy coming out every 6 hours or so. Or maybe every 12 hours two boys come out within 3 hours of each other.

That's my understanding and my thoughts...we can only wait and see.

 

[margarita25]

Also on this page is this group of divers who've posted some pictures which ALSO seem to indicate the rescue may have started earlier.

Mikko Paasi (@mikkokohtaodivers) • Instagram photos and videos

""Watch live: Thailand cave rescue gets underway
FOUR boys are on their way out of a flooded Thai cave after they were given the all-clear by an Australian doctor. Some 18 divers are currently in the water for the rescue operation.

Paul Toohey in Chiang Rai, AFP, AP, AAP
News Corp Australia NetworkJULY 8, 20184:14PM"

**holy cow***

 

[margarita25]

Omgggg


"THERE is no turning back for the Thai rescue mission with orders given to begin immediately extricating the 12 trapped boys and their coach from of the cave.

Governor Narongsak Osotthanakorn, overseeing the mission, said they had notified families of the plan to bring the boys out in pairs, each accompanied by two divers.

He said the families had given their consent for the operation to begin.

“Today is D-Day,” said the governor. Their hearts are strong and determined. The boys are ready to face any challenges.”

Narongsak said it was Australian medics who also entered the cave early on Sunday to evaluate the boys’ health and confirmed they were well enough to undertake the journey out.

He said the boys have been declared 100 per cent fit for the dive-swim-hike journey and they were as ready as they ever would be."

Thai rescue: four boys begin cave escape

 

[Amonet]

Also on this page is this group of divers who've posted some pictures which ALSO seem to indicate the rescue may have started earlier.

Mikko Paasi (@mikkokohtaodivers) • Instagram photos and videos

Who knows...maybe first extraction between 6pm and 9pm? Hopefully? God willing? Fingers crossed. Touch wood.

 

[margarita25]

(Keep in mind I've got legal access to the most potent legal herb around...if that can't calm you...)

Craycray cookoo elvis left the building a long time ago.

So, what does that say about the potential mental state of the boys? They're probably more resilien than than all of us. I guesswhat I'm trying to say is, if we are cookoo (ok, sorry I'll speak for me and Bravo since she said she was already craycray), imagine them.

Maybe Love and light and hope has empowered them.

 

[Seattle1]

10 minutes ago

@safimichael
michael safi Retweeted Jonathan Head

I and other journalists covering this have received hundreds of variations on this suggestion– using an air-filled tube. Appears it's one plan the Thais are preparing, presumably for if today's rescue needs to be aborted #thamluangcave

michael safi added,

Jonathan Head @pakhead
Not Space-X. But a Thai version of ⁦@elonmusk⁩ idea of an air-filled tube for trapped boys to get out, being tested near #Thamluangcave
12:33 AM - 8 Jul 2018

 

[Amonet]

""Watch live: Thailand cave rescue gets underway
FOUR boys are on their way out of a flooded Thai cave after they were given the all-clear by an Australian doctor. Some 18 divers are currently in the water for the rescue operation.

Paul Toohey in Chiang Rai, AFP, AP, AAP
News Corp Australia NetworkJULY 8, 20184:14PM"

**holy cow***

What I think is that they've split the boys into groups of four. The first four will be in the first 24 hours and these will be the boys who have best physical and mental condition, and who have taken best to going underwater with the mask and maintaining breathing and calmness. And then the next group have 24 hours of extra nourishment, a bit more practise, and rest periods. And then the next four. And then the coach and the remaining medic-divers who would stay behind until the last of the Mae Sai 13 are safely out... and worst case scenario they stay a bit longer with them.

JMO.

 

[margarita25]

Who knows...maybe first extraction between 6pm and 9pm? Hopefully? God willing? Fingers crossed. Touch wood.

 

[Seattle1]

10 minutes ago -- ABC tweet
Hmmm???

amanda hodge‏Verified account @hodgeamanda
Thai and international rescue divers should by now have reached the 12 boys and their football coach, who have been trapped for 2 weeks inside a flooded cave, and be preparing the first and strongest of the team for the perilous underwater extraction

12:34 AM - 8 Jul 2018

 

[*Verdigris]

Go Brits!
4680524 on Twitter
Local news reported that 9 British diver are now joining force with the 13 Int'l divers and 5 #ThaiNavySeal in the #ThailandCaveRescue mission. There are now total 27 divers in #ThaiCaveRescue #ThamLuang #Thamluangcave #Thailand

That's fabulous! I'm assuming that they've already made this dive before?
All of these divers have already made the dive, and know the intricacies of this particular cave, right? Surely they won't be responbsible for guiding one of the boys, if this would be their own first dive there. (Correct?)
Perhaps theyll be placed at different stations along they way, for a hand-off, through a single, relatively easier section.
I was thinking that the same two divers would guide their boy from beginning to end... but perhaps not.
So then the main guys can concentrate on just getting them through the worst area.
Guess I need to do more reading. (Not that it will clear anything up.)

OK - sorry for such a babbling post, but I've had two Dr. Peppers and am bouncing off the walls!

 

[Jax49]

Thai cave rescue underway: officials confirm operation has begun – live updates

"Just to remind readers just waking up in the UK, officials have cleared the 1.5km section between the cave entrance and chamber three sufficiently that people can walk along it."

 

[margarita25]

What I think is that they've split the boys into groups of four. The first four will be in the first 24 hours and these will be the boys who have best physical and mental condition, and who have taken best to going underwater with the mask and maintaining breathing and calmness. And then the next group have 24 hours of extra nourishment, a bit more practise, and rest periods. And then the next four. And then the coach and the remaining medic-divers who would stay behind until the last of the Mae Sai 13 are safely out... and worst case scenario they stay a bit longer with them.

JMO.

Thank you.

 

[margarita25]

I told you guys the BRITS had it from the beginning..