Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #3

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what cave diving look like

thats it they are insane!


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I really don't think there will be charges. The families knew they were going in the cave and they had even been in the cave before. The sign warning starts in July too. This was a freaky mishap with nobody at fault. Since the ordeal began the coach has taken care of the boys. I don't think they would all be alive had it not been for him.

Aready aware of all that, and you don't need to convince me! :)
When I said "they" I meant any larger legal entities, not the parents. Sorry, I should've been more clear.
 
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what cave diving look like

thats it they are insane!


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...and that's in clear water! These poor rescue divers and kids couldn't even see!
 
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I hope they bring a lot of Eveready batteries with them !!
 
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what cave diving look like

thats it they are insane!


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That’s terrifying and it’s clean water. These divers are so very brave.
 
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IMO, I see the diver who lost his life trying to rescue the team the hero.

I don't know enough about the cave to know whether the teachers actions were irresponsible. For all I know this is a well traveled cave, and this was a fluke accident. I don't know. This being said, it's good to see the focus remaining on the rescue and not whether the teacher was at fault, or has partial culpability.
 
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Great graphic, tho wish they would add where the rest of the boys are at the moment. Did they pass the worst part yet, the 'choke point'?

yeah, I'd (we'd all!) like to know where they are now!
 
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There seems like a lot of emotional attachment to someone we don't even know. .
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I really don't think there will be charges. The families knew they were going in the cave and they had even been in the cave before. The sign warning starts in July too. This was a freaky mishap with nobody at fault. Since the ordeal began the coach has taken care of the boys. I don't think they would all be alive had it not been for him.

I think the problem might be that he was an adult leading a group of minors. I can understand that some hold him responsible, I did too at first. I changed my mind about him when I learned more about him. But I don't know how the Thai legal system will classify it.
 
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Oh please not. Aren't there more divers and equipment that they can send in??

Equipment has to be set up I think and of course they want everything perfect. Regarding the divers, I guess they want the ones with the highest level of expertise to guide them out - and those are the ones that were doing it today and need their sleep now.
 
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The youth football team and their coach have been surviving on "chips and water", Heidler said, according to a woman who sold them snacks before they headed to the cave complex.

Thailand cave rescue operation: All the latest updates

Heidler noted the team had previously visited the site multiple times as part of their team building exercises. The flooding of the cave has been attributed to monsoon rains.
 
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I agree, when the cave is dry and under good circumstances going to the back likely won't be 6 hours. That's still assuming the reports about them headed to the back wall to sign their names were correct. I don't know how Thailand is with privacy after the fact, but I hope once this is all over we'll hear about things like this.


agree look how lowereing the watering made today faster imagine a dry cave they run around on a field

i would think there legs are strong they are young etc etc it def would not take six hours -- that like getting to the top deck of the titanic is not timewise two different timed events if she sinking or not !!

they were fleeing for their lives -- in addition how would they know while running away where the caverns would fill up blocking their exit

imo blame or shame here is not a component

it is a tragedy

these children will probably suffer from phobias of many variations water small places darkness running water sounds

at the end of the day however at best we are talking about 24 hours from where there are now to a hospital bed
 
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Interesting reading this part:

Thailand Cave Rescue Live Updates: Four Boys Are Out, 9 to Go
Why can’t the boys swim?
A Thai official has said that some members of the boys’ soccer team trapped in the flooded Tham Luang Cave network don’t know how to swim, further complicating the rescue effort.

In Southeast Asia, not knowing how to swim is normal.

A key reason is that many mothers in the region believe that teaching their children to swim will increase the risk of them drowning, said Michael Linnan, the technical director at the Alliance for Safe Children, a nonprofit based in Atlanta that has worked extensively in the region.

Dr. Linnan said it was not uncommon to see rates of swimming in low- and middle-income countries that is “well below” 20 percent, even among sailors, fishermen and others who earn their living on the water.

Drowning is a leading cause of death among children in low- and middle-income countries in Asia, Unicef said in a 2012 report. Unlike in high-income countries, the report said, the danger to children typically comes not from swimming pools but from daily exposure to water and “spontaneous actions that put them at risk.”

In Thailand, the Health Ministry reported in 2014 that drowning was the primary cause of death among children under 15. It said an average of four children in Thailand died every day from drowning, a rate that was five to 15 times higher than those for developed countries.

I'm confused. Why do "many mothers in the region believe that teaching their children to swim will increase the risk of them drowning"? o_O
 
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Man, I thought I was brave when I went to Dominica and jumped ( actually pushed into ocean by sil) to go snorkeling with guides.
 
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I'm confused. Why do "many mothers in the region believe that teaching their children to swim will increase the risk of them drowning"? o_O

I am guessing because they believe knowing how to swim will lead the children to swim (being in large bodies of water) which will increase the odds of drowning?
Analogy would be if you don't drive a car then you will never crash a car...
 
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