Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #4

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Daniel Sutton on Twitter
Daniel Sutton Retweeted michael safi

I’m also told the speculation the coach was one of the rescued four is “incorrect”.

Daniel Sutton added,
 
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Bless you creepy!
Yikes, wait - that nickname doesn't work! lol...
Neither does creep...
I'll call you cc :)
Lol! I've been called CC, Creep, and you are the first to call me creepy!
 
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I believe they are all alive and will be brought out safe. I admit that before the first 4 were rescued I had a moment of fear where I thought it possible there had been deaths in the cave and we were not being told. I mainly thought so because there were no new videos released. HOWEVER, since 4 have come out, I don't believe that they could keep it under wraps if there had been any deaths. There are too many Non-Thai divers and rescue workers that are key in this operation for them to keep something like that quiet for this long. JMO.

I think many pieces of info have slipped out that the Thai government would not have wanted to be reported at all. For example-- was there a code red or not? I think there was, but that the reporting of this was "embarrassing" and from the govt's point of view could lead to stress for the families and boys still in the cave if they heard something went wrong. So it was stifled and reported instead that they are all in good health at the hospital. Very possible that is true as well now and the code red survivor was able to be stabilized and in better condition once at the hospital. Same thing with the conflicting reports on if they brought out the weakest or the strongest first. Americans (And probably Brits and Aussies) are thinking "how great it is if the weakest were brought out first to get treatment". We are thinking in terms of medical care and what is best for each individual. Meanwhile, the Thais are probably horrified at any of the team being called "weak" (even if it means medically). Thais may be saying, "no those brought out are strong, healthy, good, okay, etc"-- because they are throwing out the positive instead of focusing on a negative word that could later bring shame on the ones first brought out. Avoiding any negatives that could get back to the rest of the group in the cave is also important to them, IMO. The group is more important than the individual in this type of culture. This is why the parents are likely quietly accepting that they cannot know which boys have come out. In American culture that would never fly (I can just hear American parents screaming at authorities to tell them where their child is or face lawsuits, lol) but in Thailand all those boys are like the children of all the parents. The parents understand the group in the cave and their community is the top priority and will wait patiently until they are told where their boys are. JMO.

Excellent post! -- I'm thinking that I hope they will share ALL records and documentation, at least to rescue teams everywhere -- as wow, look at all that will be learned from this!
 
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Quickie fyi...
it almost 11:00 (am) Mae Sai time.

(haven't seen Seattle check in yet! )
 
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Quickie fyi...
it almost 11:00 (am) Mae Sai time.

(haven't seen Seattle check in yet! )
Very curious to know if the divers have started! The media is becoming more and more unreliable.
 
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This is like a word problem :

If sally lives in london
and bob is in austalia

and Billy Be Bop is in hawaii

What local time would be it for each of the following to be watching real time coverage in Thailand?

Sally ---------

BB----------

Bob

Pls note:

It is a day and a half ahead or behind in the area under review. Be sure to include this in your responses

Good luck - if you fall asleep cause in your time you have been up for 36 hours trying to figure out what time it is somewhere you will not receive credit !

GMT +7.

Across the meridian. If you're in the US, it's evening there, and it's tomorrow morning in MaeSai. :)
 
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This livestream is in Thai, but check the chat because people in there just said they will translate to English when something comes on about the rescue. Also, if you scroll back a bit, you'll see they do play some videos from US news outlets.


Good evening and Godspeed for the rest of the boys, their coach and all the people involved in rescue efforts today. Saying a special prayer for the heroic divers, may their dive be safe snd may the children and coach be rescued. Thank you for getting 4 boys out so far.

I've got the sage burning. Thanks for the positive energy in here. I apologize for being such a batcase and feeling pessimistic and hopeless at times. To those who continued keeping the positive thoughts going, Thank you for that. I will try not to lose my mind tonight.

Bringing forward this live stream link from Gardenista.

Eta: Nice to see you have joined us, CARIIS. I was actually wondering if I'd be seeing you here.
 
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Anything but creepy. ;)


I am not sure if I would lean one way or the other between creep or creepy = crusher could be reasonable and far more vague!!
 
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Which livestream?

Also, I'm reading that woman's posts on twitter and omg, now I'm anxious ah. These poor kids. It is just so awesome that 4 are out. These divers are just beyond brave. There has to be a better word...

Whenever I read about cave diving or watch the videos...I hold my breath- not even realizing it...It is so scary to me.

I’ve been swimming since my first lessons at 6mo old, never had any fear of water. My Nana lives on a lake and we’d swim across the cove at 6 years old. We floated/snorkeled an underground river in Mexico on vacation and it was fun, safe, etc. but there were places that made me nervous. I’m definitely not claustrophobic and I can’t say why it made me so nervous but it did so much more than slot canyons, open water snorkeling or swimming in water that was hundreds of feet deep. Caves without water don’t freak me out like that.

That said, no matter what path these boys took going in, they experienced the confined spaces and apparently had done so before. They seem very well prepared for the trip out, especially if it was really the weakest out first.
 
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I believe there has been logic given to who was taken out first. That would be the ones most in need of care the soonest. It's not drawing straws. If the coach was one of the worst those in charge would make the decision who goes first. It's not up to the coach at this point. He saved the boys lives imo. I'll bet they love him and would want him to go out if he were in bad condition. This is a very brave group of young men. I believe they will all be saved and I believe they believe that too!

Well, he didn't go first anyway, for whatever reason, even though all accounts have said he is the most weakened.

I very much believe he had the right of refusal- -he's an adult, not a child, but in any case can't think of any reason why making him go first would have benefitted the overall mission. It's far more likely that he & the rescuers believed it would be to the boys' benefit to have him go with the final group, so he will be able to reassure & calm each boy up until they put on their face mask & dive into the dark.
 
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