Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - Officials Believe 12 Boys And Coach Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

This may be it...

Wojciech Bojanowski
@BojanowskiW
We see a lot more movement near #ThamLuang cave | A helicopter is hovering all day above us, dozens of people went inside the cave | 10 plus teams on the 4X4 cars drove to the jungle | but there is no official announcement till now | #13survivors #ThailandCaveRescue

 

[Elainera]

Thailand cave rescue: boys may be able to walk out as water levels drop – live

Rescuers are now able to enter the cave and make it as far as chamber three – about 1.5km into the cave network – without scuba gear.

“The water has been reduced by 40% so we can enter the cave without any diving equipment,” said Poonsak Woongsatngiem, a rescue official with Thailand Interior Ministry.

Officials have warned that chamber three still has water reaching up to the roof of the cave and so the focus is now on draining chamber three and the 2.5km passage from chamber three to where the boys are currently sheltering.

“The so-called chamber three is still in crucial stage. We want to drain water as much as we can,” said Poonsak. “However, I couldn’t estimate the depth. It varies because some areas may be deeper. We target the water in the third chamber to reduce to the point that no diving equipment is needed, like to the waistline, so one can wear just life jackets and walk out.”

I'm confused. Wasn't Chamber 3 said to be dry and where they had set up their command post? Now it's flooded to the top?

Also very confusing, what others have already pointed out, the time it takes to get to the boys and back. We have heard 6-hours round trip, 2 hours, 50 minutes back, and now 11 hours? Well I guess they were all speaking about different conditions/with or without boys, etc?

 

[Elainera]

Look at that weather forecast! They have roughly 60-70 hours left before it'll start raining strongly. I think they should get going ...

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[Elainera]

Howard Johnson‏ @Howardrjohnson

A government media spokesperson shows a detailed map of all the twists and turns and flooded caverns from the cave entrance to the 13 #thamluangcave #thamluang #ถ้ำหลวง #13ชีวิตติดถ้ำ #13ชีวิตรอดแล้ว #พาหมูป่ากลับบ้าน

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Do we have this map somewhere else where we can see it in full?

 

[Bravo]

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OK, so earlier there was a post that said it took 50 minutes to dive out.
This updated article is saying it takes five hours. Eleven hours round-trip.
Frankly I was surprised at the 50 minute estimate, but figured maybe things were really falling into place or something:


Updated 0757 GMT (1557 HKT) July 5, 2018

Thai cave rescue: Round trip to see boys takes 11 hours - CNN
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Yes I was about to comment on the 50 min. as well. It was me who posted that link?????

 

[Bravo]

I just heard on CNN (so no link) that 2 of the boys and the coach's health has declined. Oh man!!!!!

 

[*Verdigris]

I just heard on CNN (so no link) that 2 of the boys and the coach's health has declined. Oh man!!!!!

Crap crap crap crap crap.
Noooooooo!
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!
頑張れ MaeSai13 !
。。。

 

[Elainera]

Trying to make sense of the different times given in various articles:

- they might be referring to different parts of the route, from boys to command post vs boys to the cave entrance, for example
- they might be talking about a professional diver's time vs two divers plus one boy
- some might be older estimates, before a lot of water had been pumped out
- some might not take into account that on the way back the current helps them to go faster

So worst estimate: 11 hours x 13 = 143 hours/6 days to get everyone out.
Best estimate: 2 hours x 13 = 26 hours.

imho

Even with the best case scenario, I would say they should get started now, take the strongest ones and start moving ....

My nails are in shreds ....

 

[Elainera]

I just heard on CNN (so no link) that 2 of the boys and the coach's health has declined. Oh man!!!!!

OMG how did that happen???

 

[Bravo]

OMG how did that happen???

It was from a reporter on the ground. Let's hope it was wrong.

 

[*Verdigris]

Yes I was about to comment on the 50 min. as well. It was me who posted that link?????

Possibly? It was earlier today (or perhaps last night for you )
I really wanted it to be true. sigh. Reports are still all over the place concerning just about every aspect of the situation; don't know what to believe. Only faith.
Just faith.
❤︎

 

[*Verdigris]

Trying to make sense of the different times given in various articles:

- they might be referring to different parts of the route, from boys to command post vs boys to the cave entrance, for example
- they might be talking about a professional diver's time vs two divers plus one boy
- some might be older estimates, before a lot of water had been pumped out
- some might not take into account that on the way back the current helps them to go faster

So worst estimate: 11 hours x 13 = 143 hours/6 days to get everyone out.
Best estimate: 2 hours x 13 = 26 hours.

imho

Even with the best case scenario, I would say they should get started now, take the strongest ones and start moving ....

My nails are in shreds ....

I know... but the CNN link with the 5 hours out (11 hours round trip) had just been updated - I listed the time there, too.
I don't think anybody really knows - which is understandable I suppose -- the crew and decision-makers really don't have the luxury of time to be sure information is reported. They just need to get them all OUT!

 

[Bravo]

Possibly? It was earlier today (or perhaps last night for you )
I really wanted it to be true. sigh. Reports are still all over the place concerning just about every aspect of the situation; don't know what to believe. Only faith.
Just faith.
❤︎

Yes last eve for me. Ontario Canada here. Yes faith.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Thailand cave: Hope grows for a daring rescue of trapped boys
By Nick BeakeBBC News, Chiang Rai, Thailand

In the bleak hours when there was no news of the missing boys, a new community emerged on the side of this mountain.

Divers, cavers, and soldiers all trudged purposefully through the thick mud, focused on their own small role in what felt like a national effort.

Now that the 12 boys and their football coach have been located, the mood in the camp has transformed. It is a place of hope, energy, and purpose.

More at link . . .
Hope grows at the mouth of a Thai cave

 

[*Verdigris]

This may be it...

Wojciech Bojanowski
@BojanowskiW
We see a lot more movement near #ThamLuang cave | A helicopter is hovering all day above us, dozens of people went inside the cave | 10 plus teams on the 4X4 cars drove to the jungle | but there is no official announcement till now | #13survivors #ThailandCaveRescue

...I'm kinda afraid to get my hopes up...
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[Spellbound]

It seems to go back and forth as to whether they will try getting them out soon or .... I don't even want to think of the alternatives.

11 minutes ago, Thai cave rescue: Boys and coach not well enough to escape - CNN

A medical assessment of the 12 boys and their football coach stuck in a cave in Northern Thailand has concluded that it is too dangerous to try to move the group out Thursday, according to a member of the Thai Navy Seals who is not authorized to speak to the media. The Seals have also started to pump oxygen into the chamber.

Separately, a new doctor's report highlighted that two of the boys and the coach were suffering with exhaustion from malnutrition.

 

[Bravo]

I am so afraid that if they stay they will die as the monsoon rains totally flood the area. In the pics when they were first found the water level was close to that shelf they were on. What will it be like when monsoon season is in full swing!!!!

 

[Spellbound]

Much more detailed info at link, but I thought this might be indicative of the nature of people in Thailand.

Thailand Cave Rescue Updates: Good Weather, Tough Circumstances

Mae Bua Chaicheun, a rice farmer who lives near Tham Luang Cave, wanted to help in the search for the missing boys. So last week, she volunteered for five days at the rescue center, delivering drinking water to soldiers and helping clean up.

When she returned home to her village in the flatlands a few miles from the cave, she found that her fields were flooded with water that had been pumped from the caves in the effort to reach the 12 boys and their soccer coach.

She had already prepared the soil on her five acres and was about to plant rice. Now she has to start over.

But she is not concerned about that. Most importantly, the boys were found alive.

When she saw the news that the boys were found, she said she put her hands together in front of the TV and thanked Buddha.

“I had goose bumps,” she said.

She is one of dozens of farmers downstream from Tham Luang Cave whose fields have been flooded by the surplus water pumped out to reduce flood levels in the cavern.

The government is offering compensation to farmers whose land was flooded. In her case, that would have come to about $430, plus seed and fertilizer. But she said she didn’t want to add to the government’s burden in the midst of the search, and did not register.

“I am more than willing to have my rice fields flooded as long as the children are safe,” she said. “The boys are like my children.”

 

[WichitaFalls]

Trapped in Thai cave, youngsters must grapple with stress
MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) — At a gilded temple in Thailand’s mountainous north, Ekapol Chanthawong honed a skill that will serve him well as he sits trapped underground in a dark cave: meditation.
Trapped in Thai cave, youngsters must grapple with stress

 

[*Verdigris]

I am so afraid that if they stay they will die as the monsoon rains totally flood the area. In the pics when they were first found the water level was close to that shelf they were on. What will it be like when monsoon season is in full swing!!!!

Agreed. Completely.
And I really wasn't expecting anyone's health to deteriorate so much.