The Ramsey case - in real time

[BlueCrab]

During the party JonBenet was seen sitting on the steps with a sad look on her face. When approached and asked what's wrong, she reportedly replied that she didn't feel pretty.

 

[BlueCrab]

I don't know what kind of parties they would have. Did they imbibe some?

Alcohol was served that evening from the bar in the butler's area.

 

[Linda7NJ]

During the party JonBenet was seen sitting on the steps with a sad look on her face. When approached and asked what's wrong, she reportedly replied that she didn't feel pretty.

Who didn't show up but was expected at the party?

 

[why_nutt]

During the course of the day, Patsy and JonBenet had an argument about JonBenet drawing on herself (in the form of putting on makeup, cosmetics, likely lipstick and/or blush and whatever else was in JonBenet's pageant kit). Patsy told JonBenet to take some of the makeup off. They also argued about what JonBenet would wear for the party, with JonBenet ultimately winning with her choice of dress.

 

[BlueCrab]

Who didn't show up but was expected at the party?

John Andrew is a question mark. It sure looks like him in the group photo of the adults, but some say he wasn't there.

 

[BlueCrab]

It is 6:48 PM and the police receive a hangup 911 call from the house. When the police call back all they get is a voice message, so they send an officer to the house. The officer is told it was a mistake, so he didn't make out a report.

When the BPD called back after the hangup 911 call, why didn't SOMEONE in the house pick up? Certainly they were there and they could hear it ringing.

The adults had been drinking for about three hours by the time the 911 call was made, and the party was winding down by that time. Did an adult get out of hand and prompt someone to place the 911 call, which was aborted? Could it have been JonBenet or one of the other children trying to get help?

 

[why_nutt]

It is now Christmas Eve, afternoon, after one o'clock at 755 15th Street. JonBenet and Burke are wired on adrenaline at the thought of what they will get tomorrow morning. Meanwhile, Patsy is, all by herself, in complete charge of every single thing the family is doing and/or about to do. Who fed everyone today so far, for breakfast and lunch? Patsy did (if, that is, she did not just throw Pop-Tarts at everyone and have them fend for themselves).

The trip to Charlevoix is about take place in less than 48 hours. What will everyone wear? The house up there only has summer-weight clothing in the closets and drawers. John has absolutely no interest in making sure his own children are wearing weather-appropriate clothes, and Charlevoix is freezing cold, far colder even than Boulder. Is it snowing up there? Should Patsy make sure everyone has sturdy boots to trudge through the snow of the yard with, or will ordinary shoes be okay provided that the children can be convinced to stick to the shoveled driveway and porch? By the way, is the driveway up there shoveled? What about the lengthy porch? The family obviously does not live there, so they have not had to maintain the house as a livable place for people to enter and leave as they wish. Linda Mason, the interior decorator, was there a few days ago to decorate the house, but she is not paid to shovel driveways.

What about the Big Red Boat cruise? That takes place just three days from now. Somebody, meaning only Patsy, has to pack the clothes appropriate for a cruise in warm weather, a day after coming back from unpacking clothes appropriate for snowstorms.

And, of course, there is this afternoon. Oh dear, now it is two in the afternoon. The St. John's Episcopal Church service is in a couple of hours, everyone should really have a bath or a shower and have their hair brushed well so everyone looks their best. And what will everyone wear to church? So many good impressions to make on everyone every single day this week, all these decisions that never go away. It would have been nice to be able to stay home and not have to work so hard, but John wants to go to Charlevoix, and he earns all the money that pays for everything, so when he says Jump, Patsy has to be the one to figure out How High.

 

[Tricia]

It is now Christmas Eve, afternoon, after one o'clock at 755 15th Street. JonBenet and Burke are wired on adrenaline at the thought of what they will get tomorrow morning. Meanwhile, Patsy is, all by herself, in complete charge of every single thing the family is doing and/or about to do. Who fed everyone today so far, for breakfast and lunch? Patsy did (if, that is, she did not just throw Pop-Tarts at everyone and have them fend for themselves).

The trip to Charlevoix is about take place in less than 48 hours. What will everyone wear? The house up there only has summer-weight clothing in the closets and drawers. John has absolutely no interest in making sure his own children are wearing weather-appropriate clothes, and Charlevoix is freezing cold, far colder even than Boulder. Is it snowing up there? Should Patsy make sure everyone has sturdy boots to trudge through the snow of the yard with, or will ordinary shoes be okay provided that the children can be convinced to stick to the shoveled driveway and porch? By the way, is the driveway up there shoveled? What about the lengthy porch? The family obviously does not live there, so they have not had to maintain the house as a livable place for people to enter and leave as they wish. Linda Mason, the interior decorator, was there a few days ago to decorate the house, but she is not paid to shovel driveways.

What about the Big Red Boat cruise? That takes place just three days from now. Somebody, meaning only Patsy, has to pack the clothes appropriate for a cruise in warm weather, a day after coming back from unpacking clothes appropriate for snowstorms.

And, of course, there is this afternoon. Oh dear, now it is two in the afternoon. The St. John's Episcopal Church service is in a couple of hours, everyone should really have a bath or a shower and have their hair brushed well so everyone looks their best. And what will everyone wear to church? So many good impressions to make on everyone every single day this week, all these decisions that never go away. It would have been nice to be able to stay home and not have to work so hard, but John wants to go to Charlevoix, and he earns all the money that pays for everything, so when he says Jump, Patsy has to be the one to figure out How High.

I swear to God Why_Nutt, I get stressed just reading about what Patsy had to do that night and the next few days. Honestly, it's just too much.

 

[Cranberry]

LHP calls and can't come to work today.

 

[Jayelles]

LHP calls and can't come to work today.

Correct - and this is an interesting point because the RST claimed that it was Patsy who phoned LHP and told her not to bother coming - there is a bog difference here. If Patsy phoned and said don't come - it might suggest she was on top of things. LHP phoning and cancelling might be a blow to Patsy as she would suddenly be left having to clean up single-handedly.

 

[UKGuy]

So Patsy and family have to get washed and dressed for the service. And even if Patsy has a memory relapse, she has stated she always oversaw JonBenet being bathed and dressed.

JonBenet was too young to be left to her own devices on this one, and its definitely not John's or Burke's responsibility.

So on the way back from the service Patsy will overhear JonBenet and Burke conferring as to where she will sleep that night?

 

[trixie]

the service they go to dinner at Pasta Jays, then driving and looking at Christmas lights and then up to the big star on the hill. Jonbenet gets angry because she's not allowed to get out of the car and walk up to the star because it would ruin her shoes. (John Ramsey tells in an interview she looked beautiful that night wearing a purple velvet dress and patent leather shoes. When asked in that interview what Patsy wore that night, he did not know.)

Also back to the night before, isn't the night of the party when Patsy gave Jonbenet that gold braclet with her name on it? When she was found in the basement she was wearing it.

 

[why_nutt]

Christmas morning, 9:10 a.m. at 755 15th Street. You are Patsy, the house is bright with lights and your beloved daughter (oh, let us just say it; your favorite child) has already told you that the present you spent so much money and effort on, something you had to go out of your way to special-order and have customized, is unacceptable, and her favorite present is a collection of cheap paper and glue to make beads, and you were not even the person who gave her that present. Merry Christmas!

 

[BlueCrab]

Christmas morning, 9:10 a.m. at 755 15th Street. You are Patsy, the house is bright with lights and your beloved daughter (oh, let us just say it; your favorite child) has already told you that the present you spent so much money and effort on, something you had to go out of your way to special-order and have customized, is unacceptable, and her favorite present is a collection of cheap paper and glue to make beads, and you were not even the person who gave her that present. Merry Christmas!

JonBenet also enjoyed her new bike, but had only a few minutes to ride it on the back patio prior to the family getting ready to go to the White's dinner party.

 

[Cranberry]

A late breakfast and it's more wrapping and packing while John is at the airport checking on the plane. Neighborhood kids are in and out playing for the afternoon. It's time to get ready to go to another party and JBR doesn't want to wear the red turtleneck and dress like her Mother.

 

[why_nutt]

As Cranberry notes, yes, Patsy got two rejections from JonBenet today. It is 3:17 in the afternoon. The family will be leaving for the White party in about an hour, hour and a half. As you will see when you look out your own doors after 4 p.m. your local time (for those north of the equator), it is getting dark, with full sunset at 4:41 today. In addition to rejecting the special My Twinn doll this morning that JonBenet refused to enjoy and play with, JonBenet has also today refused to wear the clothing Patsy told her to; this would be the same Patsy who is the mother who is supposed to be obeyed because She Is The Mother, That's Why.

Patsy should have a bit of odor about her from the hair dye she used to color her hair within the past couple of hours. At this very moment, her shower is broken, so presumably she is about to attend a party in an enclosed and crowded space although she has only washed the parts of herself that a washcloth can handle.

JonBenet is about to be told by her father that he would rather rush off to hang around with a bunch of adults at somebody else's house, than enjoy a brief bike ride on his own family's property with his daughter.

Edited to add: It is also at this time that JonBenet's last known words are spoken, to beg her father to help her ride her new bike. She is not known to say another word from this moment on. John and Patsy have never, ever, ever, said that they treasure the last words they remember her saying to them.

 

[simplesimon]

I just got back from visiting and delivering gifts to family and friends, just like so many others. It just struck me how lucky I am to have family and friends to share special times with. I wanted to add that my prayers are for JBR and also the families of all the missing and murdered children.take time to embrace your loved ones and spend time with them because that is the true meaning of Christmas!

Happy Holidays...

 

[why_nutt]

It is 5:34 a.m. in Boulder. John and Patsy are now awake. In less than half an hour, a 911 call will be made. Before then, the story is told that right at this very moment, John is showering, and Patsy is in her bathroom. Tick, tock. I started this message at 5:34, but here it is 5:39 already. In the next five minutes, Patsy must already have used the toilet, and gotten washed and dressed.

 

[why_nutt]

It is 5:54 in Boulder. There was no way Patsy could do all she says she did, and still have made the 911 call by 5:52. Getting dressed, yes. Washing her face and brushing her teeth and hair, yes. Doing whatever this nebulous thing called "fussing with JonBenet's outfit," no.

 

[aussiesheila]

There are now 31 people partying in the house. Guests include Fleet and Priscilla White and their son Fleet III and daughter Daphne; Priscilla's mother and father. John and Barbara Fernie and their son Luke and one other child; Don Paugh; Larry and Pinky Barber and their children; Linda Hoffman-Pugh and her daughter Adrianna; two California male guests of the White's (Bill Cox, the husband of Priscilla's sister Heather; and Cliff Gaston, a male friend of Priscilla's niece); Glenn and Susan Stine and their son Doug; Joe and Betty Barnhill; uninvited Glen Meyer (the Barnhill's boarder); and Bill and Janet McReynolds.

In spite of the unpopularity of my theory I haven't given up on it and I think that up to five of the males listed here came back after midnight on the evening of the 25th/26th.
So I have a question - who else besides Bill McReynolds has had his DNA checked against that of the DNA on the panties? Don Paugh? Cliff Gaston? Joe Barnhill? Glen Meyer? Does anyone know if any of these men have been tested, and if any of them came up negative?