The Science Fair-IB Expo and the Electric Project

[RoughlyCollie]

In the top video with that article, DY and KH say they hope TH hired someone to kidnap Kyron and that person is taking care of him.

 

[DairyGirl]

In the top video with that article, DY and KH say they hope TH hired someone to kidnap Kyron and that person is taking care of him.

I wonder if there is any money missing from the family account?

 

[Emeralgem]

In the top video with that article, DY and KH say they hope TH hired someone to kidnap Kyron and that person is taking care of him.

Yes, that's their hope, but I'm not convinced they believe that to be the case...JMO

Edit... Also, I'm not shocked baby K was with her that morning...JMO

 

[CocoChanel]

So odd that noone mentioned the baby being with her that day...another puzzling aspect of this maddening case. It's so hard to imagine she would harm one child in the presence of another. It's sickening. K is 19 months old isn't she? I wonder how articulate she is and if she has been creatively interviewed. If she witnessed something horrific, she may well react in some way when asked about it, Granted LE would not be able to use "testimony" from a baby, however she may be able to point them is the right direction to find Kyron.

BBM

Sadly, this happens every day in abuse cases. Children are often witness to horrific things done to their siblings or parent. I know it is hard to imagine for us, but really, it is no different than hundreds of other stories we read about when an adult commits atrocities in the presence of family members. Poor poor Kyron. Poor poor baby K. TG for the restraining order to keep her safe from more potential harm from her mother.

 

[scotslass]

If TH is responsible in light of having baby k with her perhaps she just dropped Kyron off on SI. hence the reports from DY about him possibly being afraid not having his glasses and being allergic to bees and the statements that they didn't think he would be gone this long and the spell of silence from the parents when this story first broke. TH perhaps only meant for kyron to be lost and now with Kyron not reappearing she realized her plan has all went wrong. Dunno this whole situation is awful and we seem to be no closer to finding little Kyron.

Kyron where are you little fella? I sure hope you find your way home safely. It has been way too long now and a lot of people are waiting , looking for you and can't wait to give you that great big hug and make those fears go away. Praying your in your parents arms soon..

 

[cluciano63]

I've always been one to think if something happened between Kyron and Terri, it was not premeditated, so having the baby there does not change it for me. Except was it ever determined if this truck of theirs had three seats across in the front? Or a back seat? Wondering how car seat, etc. all works in a truck...I don't have kids or a truck. I'm thinking if it was set up for three to ride easily/legally, she may have always used the truck during the week.

 

[hollye]

So odd that noone mentioned the baby being with her that day...another puzzling aspect of this maddening case. It's so hard to imagine she would harm one child in the presence of another. It's sickening. K is 19 months old isn't she? I wonder how articulate she is and if she has been creatively interviewed. If she witnessed something horrific, she may well react in some way when asked about it, Granted LE would not be able to use "testimony" from a baby, however she may be able to point them is the right direction to find Kyron.

My son is exactly to the day the same age as Baby K and he is verbal, but not to the extent that he would be able to tell us anything, if he were to witness anything horrific or identify that it was horrific. He can say one word phrases and is learning new words every day, but nothing to the extent that would be helpful to investigators.

 

[Skully]

I still feel, and even more so now that it is confirmed she had Baby K with her, that Terri did not hurt Kyron. I have felt this way from the beginning. She may have been involved with someone that took advantage of the situation that day, or someone took the opportunity to get him to help with carrying something in from a car and took him then. The odds that no one saw her walk him out and the baby, no blood or DNA evidence he was hurt, none of this adds up. I think they need to figure out who she was seeing and where. She lied about going to SI that day, so what was there that her and the baby went to see or who? While she is at SI, I think someone tricked Kyron to go to a car, and took him. JMO This does not let her off the hook.

 

[DairyGirl]

I've always been one to think if something happened between Kyron and Terri, it was not premeditated, so having the baby there does not change it for me. Except was it ever determined if this truck of theirs had three seats across in the front? Or a back seat? Wondering how car seat, etc. all works in a truck...I don't have kids or a truck. I'm thinking if it was set up for three to ride easily/legally, she may have always used the truck during the week.

It was a 4 door truck and had a back seat.

 

[Emeralgem]

I've always been one to think if something happened between Kyron and Terri, it was not premeditated, so having the baby there does not change it for me. Except was it ever determined if this truck of theirs had three seats across in the front? Or a back seat? Wondering how car seat, etc. all works in a truck...I don't have kids or a truck. I'm thinking if it was set up for three to ride easily/legally, she may have always used the truck during the week.

IIRC.. Kaine stated he usually walked Kyron to the bus stop every morning...That indicates to me for the most part she didn't take him to school...JMO

 

[scotslass]

IIRC.. Kaine stated he usually walked Kyron to the bus stop every morning...That indicates to me for the most part she didn't take him to school...JMO

This is my thinking too not that KH walked him to the end of the driveway everyday but Kyron was definitely a bussed student. Therefore Th would not have dropped him at school most days or picked him up.

It has been bothering me that TH was concerned enough to e-mail the school about picking up the science project, for someone who was known to frequent the school and it being a friday( not to mention he was leaving to spend time with his mom & TY) Wouldn't you just pick him up that day and collect the project at that time and/or inquire about picking it up then?


I first thought that perhaps it was baby K's nap time around dismissal so picking him up would not have been ideal, especially if they were all going to drop off Kyron I know what cranky toddler can be like on a road trip - not fun!

Now KH states he and baby k walked to the bus stop so nap time is now questionable for me although she may have woken early etc.

Too many speculative questions and not enough answers going on in my head these days.

Just wish more facts were available and Kyron was home safe.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

DairyGirl...Thanks for drawing my attention to that video.....I totally missed that the first time I read that article. If TH did this, I would bet that you are correct and she did assume that having baby K with her that day would (in her mind) make her look more innocent. Wow...how cold can you get? I held out hope for the longest time that TH did not do this but I've fallen off the fence this past week. I really think LE needs to lock that "b" up for her own safety at this point. With all of this negative info coming out lately I would think her safety is certainly at risk. Her support system has fallen apart and I cannot even imagine living the life of an exile. She has to be fearful of going anywhere and rightfully so.

I agree with WholeLottaRosie....that video was very hard to watch.

I feel like I'm watching a true crime novel being written in real time. How many more shoes can drop?

 

[DairyGirl]

DairyGirl...Thanks for drawing my attention to that video.....I totally missed that the first time I read that article. If TH did this, I would bet that you are correct and she did assume that having baby K with her that day would (in her mind) make her look more innocent. Wow...how cold can you get? I held out hope for the longest time that TH did not do this but I've fallen off the fence this past week. I really think LE needs to lock that "b" up for her own safety at this point. With all of this negative info coming out lately I would think her safety is certainly at risk. Her support system has fallen apart and I cannot even imagine living the life of an exile. She has to be fearful of going anywhere and rightfully so.

I agree with WholeLottaRosie....that video was very hard to watch.

I feel like I'm watching a true crime novel being written in real time. How many more shoes can drop?

I gotta wonder how her friends feel hearing Kyron's father and mother say she is a liar who failed 2 LDTs. How about her parents? Is she that good that they just believe her excuses and rationalzations? For her friends they have to know Kaine too. Are they picking sides? I notice no more friends have come to the defense of her. Maybe her lawyer told her to shut them up.

 

[Aedrys]

I still think she could have hurt Kyron. She could have left the baby in the truck asleep. Many babies fall asleep on car rides. Then she could have gone and done what she did, come back, and the baby is still asleep and doesn't know anything bad has happened. I imagine she parked in the shade and had her windows down just so nothing would happen to her if that's the case. Or she was really evil and had the baby girl with her.

I'm just saying just because the baby was with her doesn't mean she didn't do anything to Kyron. The fact that the baby is still alive tells me the only person she wanted to hurt was Kyron, and most likely just didn't do the deed right in front of Baby K.

 

[evelyn24]

Are we sure Kaine meant that baby K was at the school with Terri and not just where baby K was when he left in the morning? When he left baby K was with Terri but he doesn't know much of what happened afterward until he got home a little after 2PM.
I say whether she had the baby at the school or not is still unknown.

It wouldn't impede her in anyway if she did have Baby K because it's not like she'd have to do anything other than tell Kyron to walk to her truck to take him that day.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I still think she could have hurt Kyron. She could have left the baby in the truck asleep. Many babies fall asleep on car rides. Then she could have gone and done what she did, come back, and the baby is still asleep and doesn't know anything bad has happened. I imagine she parked in the shade and had her windows down just so nothing would happen to her if that's the case. Or she was really evil and had the baby girl with her.

I'm just saying just because the baby was with her doesn't mean she didn't do anything to Kyron. The fact that the baby is still alive tells me the only person she wanted to hurt was Kyron, and most likely just didn't do the deed right in front of Baby K.

I agree...it really would be rather easy to accomplish when you think about it. Pull over on a side road on S.I. "Hey Kyron, let's go look at _____" TH and Kyron step outside of the truck out of view while she pretends to show him something, steps behind him and.....

I truly hope this is not what happened but it could easily have been done. And I now believe that TH had some serious anger/resentment/hostility towards KH and Kyron paid the price.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Are we sure Kaine meant that baby K was at the school with Terri and not just where baby K was when he left in the morning? When he left baby K was with Terri but he doesn't know much of what happened afterward until he got home a little after 2PM.
I say whether she had the baby at the school or not is still unknown.

It wouldn't impede her in anyway if she did have Baby K because it's not like she'd have to do anything other than tell Kyron to walk to her truck to take him that day.

In the video, linked above, he said she was with Terri that morning. The interviewer clarified by saying "at the science fair?" to which he replied "yes".

 

[evelyn24]

Ah ok, I only heard the "that morning" question, but at any rate it doesn't mean much considering TH wouldn't have to do anything crazy to get Kyron to come with her other than TELL him to come and he'd walk with her to the truck...no problem. It's not like she had to nab him and carry him off with him kicking and screaming. AND we still don't know whether she dropped the baby off immediately after leaving the school for an hour or two while she did whatever with Kyron.

 

[scotslass]

Did TH drive Kyron to school that morning? Or did he take the bus?

I'm having a hard time establishing that this morning as i have info saying they dropped off his science project and were at school early. Then another saying projects were brought in the day before.. but no real facts that are verified can someone help me out.

Wondering if she met him at school that morning or drove him in. Also while i'm trying to firm up some things do we know how many kids get on/off at that stop. Seeing it is at the bottom of the driveway I'm assuming it is Just Kyron (as my eldest had the same set up when we lived more rural).

I can only imagine what the bus driver was thinking when he/she saw the family waiting in the afternoon but knowing Kyron wasn't on the bus I can only surmise that is the only reason the bus stopped.) But more on task can someone confirm that it was the bus driver who called this into the school at that time. (missing some of my notes )

Thanks

 

[adh74]

So odd that noone mentioned the baby being with her that day...another puzzling aspect of this maddening case. It's so hard to imagine she would harm one child in the presence of another. It's sickening. K is 19 months old isn't she? I wonder how articulate she is and if she has been creatively interviewed. If she witnessed something horrific, she may well react in some way when asked about it, Granted LE would not be able to use "testimony" from a baby, however she may be able to point them is the right direction to find Kyron.

It's amazing what they can learn from even toddlers and babies! A good child psychologist might be able to figure out if she has recently been emotionally traumatized somehow. Babies aren't like grown ups...they don't know how to hide their thoughts/feelings. If she is shown a picture of Terri, does she tense up, get fussy, or cling to others? Have her developmental milestones slowed down or even gone backwards (as the brain processes trauma)? Is she not asking for her mommy (doesn't want to see her, scared of her, etc.)? No, it's not exactly something you can ask her in court "did you see your mommy hurt your big brother?". But professional testimony does carry an appropriate amount of weight in court.

My little brother, who had been fairly verbal at age 2, suddenly just stopped talking. He became violent in his play mannerisms, which was not typical for him. And his appetite went out the window at a time when toddlers are usually having a growth spurt and eating like crazy. We later found out that that was around the time that our uncle had started molesting him.