TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #26

[Carla Lashelle]

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"Convoluted" wins the award for Single Word Which Best Describes Most Accounts Given About the Bobo Case!

Whats really whack is that its rare to have a witness and yet the story the witness has provided is so convoluted and contradictory. Since there is only one witness there should only be one story. Its not like 9 people saw this and have 9 different interpretations of what happened. And I have yet to see an A-Z non stop telling of what happened. It has always been coaxed out in little snippets that are disjointed and seemingly out of sequence. There is no free flow of information. No one in the family sits down and just talks uninterrupted from start to finish.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I'm sorry if this has been previously discussed. I worked the scanner thread when Holly first went missing. I have watched the family interviews. But the question I have:

Holly reported missing 7:40 am or some time around there
LE and parents to house 8:00 or shortly thereafter

What I have heard/read and I don't remember where:

the search didn't start for hours later
family was not permitted to leave home

no roadblocks
no one permitted to go into the woods

you get where I'm going.........

so is it true, that everyone sat around and waited for TBI?

TIA

Yeah thats basically what Holly's mom indicated the other day/week when she said it seemed like Le was just sitting around in their front yard waiting/doing nothing.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I love your drawing, Carla! Thank you for doing that!

Oh thanks I hope it helps. If you (or anyone) knows of ANY photos showing more of the back of the house I would like to try to draw up what that looks like. I think its useful. By understanding what the outside of the house looks like we can maybe figure out some of the interior arrangememnt.

if you look at my top drawing of the front of the house, you can see obviously what was probably the front of the garage at the top of the driveway and where it was walled over and a window added (adjacent to the front door).

 

[mag84]

Clint does not say the car is in the garage, which by previous accounts was enclosed and is used as house/living space and not for storing cars. Now exactly where Hollys car was is up for interpretation. I don't think it is of super importance at least based on what we now know. The blood was found in the garage. I think also the local that used to post here pointed out that while the garage was enclosed and now more like just part of the house proper, it was still referred to as the "garage".

What is frustrating is that prior reports have placed her car in the drive way or on the car port. The more detailed accounting of what happened that came out in July said the car was in the driveway in front of the house.

Ultimately none of what Clint saw involved the car from what we can tell, so its sort of moot at this time.

BBM

Phew, catching up again, you guys were busy overnight.

IIRC, wasn't the "more detailed accounting" from one of the sensationalism women writers from either gather or examiner? I can't bring myself to click on either of their self-serving blog links anymore (and I wish those links weren't allowed here as they are BLOGS designed to make money), so I really can't research the answer to my question myself, but I certainly seem to remember that's were the "car in the long winding driveway" story came from originally because I remember thinking at the time how it was written more as a story to draw you in than how an actual reporter would write it. IIRC the original MSM reports were blood in the carport behind the house, and I'm not really sure any mention of were her car was was even ever made back then.

Just trying to clarify, not trying to be argumentative. :truce:

 

[Cheewawa007]

Not to single you out, but you raise a couple of points. Okay maybe calling the mother does not seem odd to a few people. But consider the family business is what the father works with, not the mother. Why would the mother have any knowledge of what the father's business is doing on a day-to-day basis? That is an oddity to me.
The second point is the dogs barking and being in a fog when you wake up. Everyone is in a slight fog when they just wake up, but usually when you are awoken to the sound of a dog barking or house birds making to much noise, your first thought is to shut them up so you can go back to sleeping. I personally like to know what causes the pets to make all that noise in the first place, because if it is an ongoing thing, chances are I won't be able to get back to sleep with all the noise.

Okay - let's say it wasn't because he thought someone was coming from Dad's business to pick something up/drop something off - could have been a simple case of thinking someone was scheduled to come out & makes repairs on the phone line, internet,cable, etc. In my household, that type of "business" is handled by the Mom - not the Dad (to call & make arrangements for services). In regards to the barking dog, he looked out the window to see what the dog was barking at - what's so strange about that? My first thought is not to silence the dog when I am awoken from a deep sleep - I want to see what he/she is barking about.

 

[wfgodot]

What I have heard/read and I don't remember where:

the search didn't start for hours later
family was not permitted to leave home

no roadblocks
no one permitted to go into the woods

you get where I'm going.........

so is it true, that everyone sat around and waited for TBI?

TIA

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But Holly’s father said no one was allowed into the woods to search until the canine units and helicopter had arrived.

“It just seemed like everybody sat in the yard and in the driveway. And they didn't set out to put road blocks at a distance, to stop people driving. And just everybody stayed here,” said Dana Bobo, Holly’s father.

Holly Bobo's Family Recounts the Day She Vanished (wreg.com)

Can't find a specific time given for the wait, still looking for MSM source.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

BBM

Phew, catching up again, you guys were busy overnight.

IIRC, wasn't the "more detailed accounting" from one of the sensationalism women writers from either gather or examiner? I can't bring myself to click on either of their self-serving blog links anymore

Just trying to clarify, not trying to be argumentative. :truce:

No it was from a local newspaper and cites LE and family sources. It was cited again today in post 597

 

[wfgodot]

Also, I did find this little tidbit whilst looking around for the time it took for the dogs to arrive:

The frustration comes from the waiting – waiting for canine dogs to arrive on the scene.

This is from the decidedly non-MSM source The Examiner. Canine dogs....I guess that's as opposed to those turkey-dog hybrids running around west Tennessee these days. Object lesson: go in fear of non-MSM "news" articles, although they can provide moments of high hilarity.

 

[scorekeeper]

Yeah thats basically what Holly's mom indicated the other day/week when she said it seemed like Le was just sitting around in their front yard waiting/doing nothing.

Hmmmm....interesting

I think I would have sent a text to friends to have them start driving/looking at all roads that backed up to the property.........I definitely would have went behind LE's back.......a lot of friends out turkey hunting....

I just find that strange.....really gave the perp a head start....why?

 

[BeanE]

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Holly Bobo's Family Recounts the Day She Vanished (wreg.com)

Can't find a specific time given for the wait, still looking for MSM source.

I remember transcribing it. Dana said they "set up" for an hour IIRC. I'll try to find it.

ETA: hmmmm. Maybe not. I don't know why I have "set up" and an hour in my head. I'll keep looking.

Transcribed from the video:

Reporter: law enforcement and about 50 neighbors gathered up their driveway...

Reporter: ...no one was allowed into those woods...

Dana Bobo: It just seemed like everybody set in the yard and in the driveway. They didn't leave out to go set up blocks, road blocks, you know, at a distance, to stop people driving. It just, everybody stayed here.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Also, I did find this little tidbit whilst looking around for the time it took for the dogs to arrive:


This is from the decidedly non-MSM source The Examiner. Canine dogs....I guess that's as opposed to those turkey-dog hybrids running around west Tennessee these days. Object lesson: go in fear of non-MSM "news" articles, although they can provide moments of high hilarity.

Well thats it they should have got FELINE or REPTILE dogs

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Hmmmm....interesting


I just find that strange.....really gave the perp a head start....why?

I dont think it was planned I think it was just ineptness. Gomer and Goober trying to figure out who was in charge and call the shots. A case of too many chiefs and not enough indians.

 

[BeanE]

Picture of back of house. Can see pool and house behind it, but other side obscured by a tree:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...obo -TN-/?action=view&current=41711home1.jpg

ETA: Picture looks to be from this video. Two moving shots of back of house. Not a whole lot more helpful:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/16/earlyshow/saturday/main20054568.shtml

 

[mag84]

No it was from a local newspaper and cites LE and family sources. It was cited again today in post 597

Thanks, I just got there. I remember that article well now. It was discussed at length because it stated as fact

At 7:40 a.m., Holly walked to her black Ford Mustang on the long, winding driveway leading to the Bobo family’s rural Decatur County home.

We all wondered how ANYONE could have known Holly walked to her car at 7:40 since no one was home but CB and he was asleep at the time. The story was fishy then, is still fishy now. And it's interesting that the article is gone now altogether imo.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Picture of back of house. Can see pool and house behind it, but other side obscured by a tree:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...obo -TN-/?action=view&current=41711home1.jpg

Ok you can see the area I surmise is the car port is open not enclosed.

 

[mag84]

Also, I did find this little tidbit whilst looking around for the time it took for the dogs to arrive:


This is from the decidedly non-MSM source The Examiner. Canine dogs....I guess that's as opposed to those turkey-dog hybrids running around west Tennessee these days. Object lesson: go in fear of non-MSM "news" articles, although they can provide moments of high hilarity.

Thank you, you made me lol today. I needed that.

So now we have turkeys in the garage and turkey-dogs roaming the area. I'm getting hungry, and I'm not fond of turkey.

 

[mag84]

It would be interesting to know if anyone left the dad's company (employee) around the time Holly went missing?

There was a rumor that DB had recently fired an employee, but I don't recall any MSM confirmation of it.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Thanks, I just got there. I remember that article well now. It was discussed at length because it stated as fact



We all wondered how ANYONE could have known Holly walked to her car at 7:40 since no one was home but CB and he was asleep at the time. The story was fishy then, is still fishy now. And it's interesting that the article is gone now altogether imo.

Its quite frustrating for sure.

I surmise NOW and this is just SPECULATION that Hollys car was parked BEHIND the house in the car port not in the driveway. This would correspond to more accounts which said the car was in the car port. It also would make more sense given the recent accounts of what happened. Since there is not a door to the garage on the front of the house but there is probably a door to the house or garage via the car port in back.

Quite possibly Clint glanced out a BACK window and saw Holly and Camo Man briefly as they passed from the car port to behind the pool heading roughly Northwards.

 

[mag84]

Picture of back of house. Can see pool and house behind it, but other side obscured by a tree:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...obo -TN-/?action=view&current=41711home1.jpg

ETA: Picture looks to be from this video. Two moving shots of back of house. Not a whole lot more helpful:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/16/earlyshow/saturday/main20054568.shtml

Thanks!!! This photo just reminded me of others taken at the time and something I've had in the back of my mind all along, Where is Holly's car????? If it was in the driveway in front of the house it would be in these pictures!

ETA - watch the video in the link above, it shows the driveway a couple times and there is no black mustang in the driveway, only a black pickup truck and what looks to be a white news truck or something.

Also, the dirt strip around the side of the house and pool to the back looks like it has been very well used by vehicles.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Thanks!!! This photo just reminded me of others taken at the time and something I've had in the back of my mind all along, Where is Holly's car????? If it was in the driveway in front of the house it would be in these pictures!

As I have surmised I believe now her car was parked in the back of the house, under the pitched roof of the open air car port, not out front . Also, for various investigative reasons, the car may not have been at the house or on the property when these photos were taken.