Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[cvaldez1975]

im not sure if mine show in x rays or anything. they never came through and I don't believe they have impacted anything in my mouth.

Two of mine erupted when I was 15, but they came in crooked and I had them pulled when I was about 17 or 18. The other two seem to be congenitally absent; they don't show on dental x-rays.

 

[STANDREID]

FWIW I'm 18 and my wisdom teeth have not erupted.

I'm about to turn 70 and only 3 of my wisdom teeth are in. The other, I can see is still under my gum in the x-ray. Maybe it will come in by the time I'm 100.:silenced:

 

[Springrain]

It seems a lot of people's wisdom teeth erupt at 16/17, which would be on the older end of the age range.

 

[catherine.]

It seems a lot of people's wisdom teeth erupt at 16/17, which would be on the older end of the age range.

My bottom wisdom teeth came in around 15, and my top set became in impacted. I had them removed at 19.

Teeth are not the only factor in aging the deceased. At the end of long bones, like the bones of the legs and arms, there are epiphyseal plates. In younger people it is separated from the long bone by a layer of cartilage and as we age the bone shaft grows and gradually replaces the cartilage. In adults the plate becomes a line. Females begin this process sooner than males and it is usually complete by 17/18 for girls. The base of the skull doesn't begin to fuse until 18. The sacrum and collarbone until your 20's.

 

[carbuff]

And there are plates in your skull that continue to fuse as you age, until by the time you're my age, the skull is nearly smooth.

 

[Springrain]

Of course teeth are not the only way to age them, I was just trying to refer to my experiences with when people I know had their molars erupt.

Anyway, I think all possible matches 12-20 should be checked.

 

[catherine.]

Of course teeth are not the only way to age them, I was just trying to refer to my experiences with when people I know had their molars erupt.

Anyway, I think all possible matches 12-20 should be checked.

I'm sorry if I came off as rude with my comment. It wasn't intended!

I imagine if her wisdom teeth were erupted they used other bones to determine her age.

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[Wonder123]

Here's a potential that I don't think has been posted to this thread. It looks like she was just added to NAMUS last month. Unfortunately there are not many details, no DNA and no dentals.
I do think there are some similarities...

Cecile Moch

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/30977

 

[anonymess]

There seems to be a typo on the front page or circumstances page for Cecile. One says 1960, other says 1980. Charlie project says 1980. Her nose and eyes look good but brows seem a bit off and hair seems dyed blonde, but good find nonetheless...

 

[Springrain]

I'm sorry if I came off as rude with my comment. It wasn't intended!

I imagine if her wisdom teeth were erupted they used other bones to determine her age.

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Oh not at all! I was just trying to explain my reasoning...hope I didn't seem overly defensive!

I think I recall that studies of her other bone development led them to 14-18 but that's a pretty standard thing to do on UIDs anyway.

 

[Springrain]

There seems to be a typo on the front page or circumstances page for Cecile. One says 1960, other says 1980. Charlie project says 1980. Her nose and eyes look good but brows seem a bit off and hair seems dyed blonde, but good find nonetheless...

That should be fixed, she was born in 1960, and disappeared in 1980, at 19 going on 20.

Anyway, I think there's a resemblance, FWIW.

 

[Vital Forces]

Has a connection ever been made between the Walker County Jane Doe and the serial killer(s) of the Texas Killing Fields?

 

[Springrain]

Has a connection ever been made between the Walker County Jane Doe and the serial killer(s) of the Texas Killing Fields?

It has been brought up multiple times on Facebook and online, but as far as LE making a connection--I don't think so.

It is also not publicly released whether they have collected DNA from her sandals. If it was collected, and connected to the Texas Killing Fields, I can see their reasoning for keeping mum about having the DNA, so as to not mess up the investigation.

 

[Springrain]

And by making, I mean proving. They very well could have speculated.

 

[STANDREID]

Here's a potential that I don't think has been posted to this thread. It looks like she was just added to NAMUS last month. Unfortunately there are not many details, no DNA and no dentals.
I do think there are some similarities...

Cecile Moch

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/30977

Moch was last seen in CA on Thursday August 7. Her abandoned car was found in some California mountains so I doubt that this is her. It is an interesting case worthy of further discussion though.

 

[CarlK90245]

Here's a potential that I don't think has been posted to this thread. It looks like she was just added to NAMUS last month. Unfortunately there are not many details, no DNA and no dentals.
I do think there are some similarities...

Cecile Moch

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/30977

Cecile Moch is on the Walker County Sheriff Office's rule-out list.

Lt. Perkins 2010 Ruleouts for WCJD
- Corrine Anita Hagler
- Gina Renee Hall
- Adrea Laderoute
- Cecile Frances Moch
- Jane Louise Puckett
- Jean Marie Stewart
- Emma Lorene Vaughn

 

[Wonder123]

Cecile Moch is on the Walker County Sheriff Office's rule-out list.

So would that mean they do have DNA somewhere, or is there some other information that led to her rule-out, or we just don't know?

 

[Wonder123]

I want to post this young lady even though there are date/info discrepancies. Her file was not submitted to NAMUS until 2010, and based on the time lapse and other errors I have seen/heard about in these kinds of cases, I don't think it's an impossibility.

Tamera's file reports her missing from Galveston in July of 1982. It also says she has a scar near her left eyebrow. But, if this were a case where she was reported missing years later, then it's possible someone might have the year and the side of the scar wrong. I see a resemblance in chin shape, lips, and potentially nose and eye shapes. Thoughts?

Tamera Ellen McCurry

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8652/0/

 

[Springrain]

Cecile Moch is on the Walker County Sheriff Office's rule-out list.

Oh yeah! Facepalm moment. It was on my own blog, duh.

 

[Springrain]

I want to post this young lady even though there are date/info discrepancies. Her file was not submitted to NAMUS until 2010, and based on the time lapse and other errors I have seen/heard about in these kinds of cases, I don't think it's an impossibility.

Tamera's file reports her missing from Galveston in July of 1982. It also says she has a scar near her left eyebrow. But, if this were a case where she was reported missing years later, then it's possible someone might have the year and the side of the scar wrong. I see a resemblance in chin shape, lips, and potentially nose and eye shapes. Thoughts?

Tamera Ellen McCurry

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8652/0/

The scar and nose seem similar to my unprofessional eye.

I think it's probably not her, just because overall face shape looks different to my, again, unprofessional eye.

But she should be submitted, as there is nothing to lose and everything to gain if it is her!