GUILTY UK - Arthur Labinjo Hughes, 6, killed, dad & friend arrested, June 2020 #3

[Discosally]

Could someone please clarify who made that comment and who was it in reference to?
Apologies if it's obvious- I'm clearly missing something here
Thanks.

I think it’s SH or JD, I’m not sure though, but I think SH said something to those words or similar. Has anyone got his testimony saved-BL takes so long to scroll back through?

 

[Bit of hope]

Arthur is not related to Tustins children. He would be at best a step brother, but Hughes and Tustin weren’t married, so she shouldn’t be called ‘step mum’.

Pfffff oke...they were living in the same household....so??? In what way does this make a difference? A name? Half brother, Stepbrother....really very relevant...not...the woman who has two children of her own...killed this little boy...so her own children are going to suffer too. That is where this is about, isn't it? As we would say in Dutch "lekker belangrijk!"

 

[Mrs Marple]

I haven't had the emotional capacity to follow this case. Sky news are reporting

 

[squish]

Arthur is not related to Tustins children. He would be at best a step brother, but Hughes and Tustin weren’t married, so she shouldn’t be called ‘step mum’.

Lots of people never get married, so who officially gets called "step" would miss out a lot of people if it was strictly followed.

In a study about parents/parental figures killing their children, the author called non-married step parents de facto parents. I guess that would be a good word here.

In terms of Tustin, she ought to have been acting as a stepmother, but she didn't give Arthur the slightest bit of parental care. Her own two children would have suffered second-hand seeing him suffer, and seeing their mother and Hughes behaving like that. It would have been very confusing and emotionally painful for them. Now, they've lost the only mother they've ever known. They might end up with survivor's guilt when they get older, too.

 

[Bit of hope]

Lots of people never get married, so who officially gets called "step" would miss out a lot of people if it was strictly followed.

In a study about parents/parental figures killing their children, the author called non-married step parents de facto parents. I guess that would be a good word here.

In terms of Tustin, she ought to have been acting as a stepmother, but she didn't give Arthur the slightest bit of parental care. Her own two children would have suffered second-hand seeing him suffer, and seeing their mother and Hughes behaving like that. It would have been very confusing and emotionally painful for them. Now, they've lost the only mother they've ever known. They might end up with survivor's guilt when they get older, too.

Amen....

 

[ChloLo]

You can say it’s not important. But half brother means they would biologically share one parent. That is not correct, Arthur was not biologically related to them. It’s a fact.

 

[Bit of hope]

You can say it’s not important. But half brother means they would biologically share one parent. That is not correct, Arthur was not biologically related to them. It’s a fact.

I know that, but in this context it's not important....It's about the relation he should have had with the woman his biological father chose to be with and with his biological father....both scum of the earth......Don't deserve to be mentioned as "step? mother, or whatever" or "father".

 

[Riparthur]

ET better not top herself!!! She needs to serve those years

Yes!! She better face this harsh reality

Arthur had to endure 14 hours a day on the thinking step. These two have scored 29/21 years on their thinking steps
Justice for Arthur

 

[Riparthur]

I agree with you. Arthur had faced the searing reality that his father wanted him dead. He stopped calling for him when he was in his most desperate hours of need, he called out into the universe for his uncle and their family dog.

How desparately I’ll be must’ve been at 3am the night before wheb he did wake TH up with a headache

I haven’t seen footage of how TH treated him then. Does anyone know if he whacked him again that morning or does it look like he was somewhat kind to his son for even a minute??

 

[Blondiexoxo]

I just can’t read anymore. I have nothing but compassion for Arthur’s mother, I understand the crime she committed was terrible and deserved to be punished but IMO she has endured the worst punishment possible and I have no doubt she will likely blame herself for the rest of her life. Knowing what Arthur had to endure for the final months of his life and losing her little boy in such an awful way is enough to destroy anyone. Arthur should have been safe with his dad and instead was tortured and murdered while in his care. I actually think she is incredibly strong for not lunging herself at TH today or screaming profanities like many of us would. That shows real courage and also indicates she has changed from the person she was when she committed her crime. I think this should be taken into consideration should she ever appeal. Because if I were in her shoes I would have completely lost control today. No matter what she’s done you can’t deny that she acted with respect for the court today and honoured Arthur’s memory well. That is my opinion anyway.

 

[Dotta]

You know, even if TH leaves prison after 14 years, the world will be a completely different place in terms of Technology.

Will he find his way in the future, if he felt, while young, lost in the present?

Without children, friends, with hostile family members?

But I guess, a place in the parents' garden will be waiting for him.

 

[Carroll520]

How desparately I’ll be must’ve been at 3am the night before wheb he did wake TH up with a headache

I haven’t seen footage of how TH treated him then. Does anyone know if he whacked him again that morning or does it look like he was somewhat kind to his son for even a minute??

Oh my god this plays on my mind so much too. It would be good to know how TH treated him at this time. All i heard was he went down and left very quickly, so it doesnt give much hope that he was caring towards him or got him water, or anything a normal parent would have done

 

[ChloLo]

I know that, but in this context it's not important....It's about the relation he should have had with the woman his biological father chose to be with and with his biological father....both scum of the earth......Don't deserve to be mentioned as "step? mother, or whatever" or "father".

Now that I can agree with. I get irritated seeing Tustin called “stepmother”

I just can’t read anymore. I have nothing but compassion for Arthur’s mother, I understand the crime she committed was terrible and deserved to be punished but IMO she has endured the worst punishment possible and I have no doubt she will likely blame herself for the rest of her life. Knowing what Arthur had to endure for the final months of his life and losing her little boy in such an awful way is enough to destroy anyone. Arthur should have been safe with his dad and instead was tortured and murdered while in his care. I actually think she is incredibly strong for not lunging herself at TH today or screaming profanities like many of us would. That shows real courage and also indicates she has changed from the person she was when she committed her crime. I think this should be taken into consideration should she ever appeal. Because if I were in her shoes I would have completely lost control today. No matter what she’s done you can’t deny that she acted with respect for the court today and honoured Arthur’s memory well. That is my opinion anyway.

She has already appealed once, she had her original conviction quashed because of elements of self defence although still an unlawful act. She was then retried and again found guilty of manslaughter, her sentence was reduced from 18 years to 11 years. She must serve 2/3rds.

 

[Dotta]

I just can’t read anymore. I have nothing but compassion for Arthur’s mother, I understand the crime she committed was terrible and deserved to be punished but IMO she has endured the worst punishment possible and I have no doubt she will likely blame herself for the rest of her life. Knowing what Arthur had to endure for the final months of his life and losing her little boy in such an awful way is enough to destroy anyone. Arthur should have been safe with his dad and instead was tortured and murdered while in his care. I actually think she is incredibly strong for not lunging herself at TH today or screaming profanities like many of us would. That shows real courage and also indicates she has changed from the person she was when she committed her crime. I think this should be taken into consideration should she ever appeal. Because if I were in her shoes I would have completely lost control today. No matter what she’s done you can’t deny that she acted with respect for the court today and honoured Arthur’s memory well. That is my opinion anyway.

She wasnt in the Court.
The letter was read on her behalf by her mother.

 

[Blondiexoxo]

11 years when there were elements of self defence yet TH has been given just 10 more years for what he did to Arthur. Arthur’s murder wasn’t a crime of passion or momentary loss of control. What he suffered through was complete sadistic torture. How TH got away with murder I will never know, manslaughter is an insult to what this little boy endured IMO.

I read something earlier today that made it sound like his mum was in court, I’m sure it said the statement was read by Arthur’s mum herself. Must have been a misprint, sorry I got that wrong. Even still, Arthur looked healthy and happy with his mother, I’m not making excuses for her actions atall but I’m sure she feels so much guilt and blames herself. I don’t think she should though, she was never to know what would happen to her son. Lots of people end up in situations where they lose custody of their kids, but that does not give anyone the right to torture and kill their child. If anything Arthur should have been shown more love and affection, and had people raising him who understood he would have been missing his mother. He needed care, warmth, food, cuddles. Even just the bare basics would have been better than what he ultimately was forced to suffer

 

[Blondiexoxo]

I know people will say that his mother is to blame because if she had never committed the crime then Arthur would never have ended up with these two monsters, but for all everyone knew at the time Arthur was off to live with his dad, a father should care for his child. Basic care and love is the bare minimum that is required yet they abused him so terribly I can’t even think about it without my stomach turning. I feel physically sick when I keep reading what Arthur endured yet I can’t stop myself from reading and thinking about him.
I know there are thousands of us who would’ve gladly taken him in and filled his belly, given him a warm bed and the attention and love he needed. I wish they would have allowed him to go to a relative or just anyone to be honest, the only reason they made him stay there was purely sadistic. That’s why I think the sentencing was too lenient. The sadism, brutality and evilness is some of the worst I’ve ever heard and the sentences don’t reflect that IMO.

 

[Dotta]

Timeline of events

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.amp...o-hughes-timeline-of-events-that-ended-in-his

 

[ChloLo]

I don’t think any blame should be placed on Olivia. Yes she did a terrible thing, she’s paying the price for that. She’s now paying double because the man who should have protected his son, encouraged and engaged with his murder
This explains OLHs situation:
Mum of tragic Arthur is in jail for stabbing boyfriend to death

 

[Bit of hope]

I will never forget this little boy Arthur. The CCTV footage of him barely able to lift his bedding, limping, will forever be burned on my retina. Don't ask me why I feel so much pain and have to cry for this particular child...I don't know this right now. For me it's like he represents all the horrible things I've seen and read about child abuse in the last couple of years and what, so called parents, did to there own offspring. Or all the horrible things that happened to children in their girlfriends/boyfriends, stepmother/stepfather's care..... Call it overflowing....For me it's beyond everything I can relate to. IMO if you ever feel you can't control your bad feelings, frustration or whatever that's bothering you and you are on the edge, wanting to do this kind of horrible things to a child, you should run as fast as you can to get professional help for yourself. Before it's escalating into this kind of situations....

 

[Barbieshell]

I hope beautiful Arthur can rest easy now bless him. Fingers crossed those animals get a big dose of karma, they'll be targets in prison.
I'd like to think the families can resolve the dispute about his final resting place. Arthur needs to be given an amazing send off and a beautiful spot somewhere. My heart breaks thinking of him still lying in a morgue after all this time