UK - Car drives into pedestrians at Liverpool FC victory parade. Man detained, 26 May 2025

  • #201
A lot of charges plus VIS and mitigation.
 
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  • #204
He's saying he panicked, they said he didn't as he skipped a red light, was undercutting and changing lanes from his home address. Then swearing at crowds and trying to drive through them, then going around road blocks, all BEFORE he accelerated and drove into over 100 people. That's not panic, that's rage.
 
  • #205
I assume he didn't want to have to go into town, knowing how busy it was, and left home in a rage, and then it all escalated from there. There's no mitigation and pleading guilty on day 1 won't help his sentence much, if anything.
 
  • #206
At least he has finally admitted to it! Less wasting of time and effort in courts.
 
  • #207
He's saying he panicked, they said he didn't as he skipped a red light, was undercutting and changing lanes from his home address. Then swearing at crowds and trying to drive through them, then going around road blocks, all BEFORE he accelerated and drove into over 100 people. That's not panic, that's rage.
That does seem to be the long and the short of it. He was impatient with all the delays and the red mist came down.
 
  • #208
I assume he didn't want to have to go into town, knowing how busy it was, and left home in a rage, and then it all escalated from there. There's no mitigation and pleading guilty on day 1 won't help his sentence much, if anything.
I think it would. I'm sure the sentencing guidelines contain set discounts for early guilty pleas.
 
  • #209
I think it would. I'm sure the sentencing guidelines contain set discounts for early guilty pleas.
But it's not early if the jury are already sitting there and all the research has been done by prosecution and defence. What a waste of all those resources. The judge didn't take much off when Axel R did the same
 
  • #210
He may get a minor discount but I doubt it will be much if any.
He’s had a previous opportunity to plead that was after the hearing where his Counsel said they hadn’t seen all the evidence.
The whole court was assembled and ready for a 3-4 week trial with witnesses lined up.
All far far too late.
JMO.
 
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There's got to be more going on. Why did he even turn into that street to begin with?

Just changing my post as I have just seen this info from the DM article above - Skigh's post 211.

Astonishingly, considering the reckless and near-fatal violence which was to follow, Doyle was only in Liverpool city centre on May 26 because he had agreed to pick up family friends after the parade – having dropped them off there earlier.


That sort of explains it now to me. He kept driving into the centre to collect his friends.
Whereas any sensible person would have told the friends to walk up Church Street, away from the crowds/parade and be picked up outside of the parade area, and from there, PD could have turned the car round and headed back the way he had come, northwards out of the city.
 
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  • #213
Exactly this. I have said it before, but if he was dropping someone off in the centre, or as close to as he could get, then all he had to do was turn around and drive out of town, exactly the same way he had come in.
There makes no sense to me in him driving further down towards the Pier Head - that is totally the wrong direction for his route home.

From what I understand he had dropped them off earlier in the day and was going back into town to pick them up
 
  • #214
From what I understand he had dropped them off earlier in the day and was going back into town to pick them up


Yes, I have just seen that from the DM article. Have amended my comment to match the new info.
 
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Paul Doyle pleads guilty to Liverpool parade charges​

A police custody photo of Paul Doyle wearing a grey jumper and looking stunned. His hair, a long brown fringe, is dishevelled and to the side. His face has red marks on it
IMAGE SOURCE, CPS
Image caption, Paul Doyle broke down in tears as he quietly answered guilty to all 31 charges

Paul Doyle has pleaded guilty to all 31 charges after ploughing his car into a dense crowd of supporters at the Liverpool FC victory parade.
A court sketch shows Paul Doyle, who is wearing a black suit and tie, has his hand over his mouth as he sobs in the dock at Liverpool Crown Court.
IMAGE SOURCE, JULIA QUENZLER
Image caption, A jury had been sworn in for Doyle's trial on Tuesday

 
  • #216
I can't get over the fact that no one died.

Was that just because he was never really going that fast? Or was he?

I wonder how serious the worst injuries were. Seems to me it should have been very bad.
 
  • #217
I wonder if some psychiatric evaluation has been made.
His behaviour seems all over the place to me,
both now & then :oops:

JMO
 
  • #218
I can't get over the fact that no one died.

Was that just because he was never really going that fast? Or was he?

I wonder how serious the worst injuries were. Seems to me it should have been very bad.
Sheer good luck. A few people were in hospital for a long time, I'm sure one person was in for a few months. Plus the psychological trauma, esp for the many children who were there. I went to the parade, but not in town and easily 30-40% of the people there were children, they must have been terrified.
 
  • #219
I wonder if some psychiatric evaluation has been made.
His behaviour seems all over the place to me,
both now & then :oops:

JMO


Apparently not


Doyle's lawyer announced they would not be advancing any psychiatric reports as part of his defence


 
  • #220
Wow …. How to completely ruin your life in 7 minutes.
 

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