UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #12

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Yes it was Friday, could not remember x

So JK was with CL on the Friday- why would Suzy say she didn't know who she was with and didn't speak to her. Did she speak to JK that evening?
 
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I believe SC was on holiday for whole week and spent days? in Leamington Spa in the midlands.
CL could have found new extra drinking partners in that time .
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I wonder : Did SC ever found out who put up a picture of her with the words “Guilty or what ? “
Bless her as if she has not gone through enough .
The truth will come out and it won’t be long now ...
 
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So JK was with CL on the Friday- why would Suzy say she didn't know who she was with and didn't speak to her. Did she speak to JK that evening?
Suzy did not mention Jen, but yes It appears Jen and Claudia was sat with a unknown group.Suzy perhaps felt they were both too drunk to hold a conversation with at that point in the evening x
 
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I believe SC was on holiday for whole week and spent days? in Leamington Spa in the midlands.
CL could have found new extra drinking partners in that time .
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I wonder : Did SC ever found out who put up a picture of her with the words “Guilty or what ? “
Bless her as if she has not gone through enough .
The truth will come out and it won’t be long now ...
Who put that up, was it in a news article?
 
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I believe SC was on holiday for whole week and spent days? in Leamington Spa in the midlands.
CL could have found new extra drinking partners in that time .
———————————————
I wonder : Did SC ever found out who put up a picture of her with the words “Guilty or what ? “
Bless her as if she has not gone through enough .
The truth will come out and it won’t be long now ...
What the truth of who
Put suzys pic up?
 
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The article says that Suzy had moved to the other side of York, but I thought that she had moved back to the Midlands?

Apparently not according to the article.
 
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A quote from the article

"She was plastered by the time I got there at 9pm after work and I didn’t really spend any time with her. I regret it so much. I kick myself about that. I beat myself up. I would have said different things to her that Friday.

Why what did she say that she regrets?
 
  • #92
Yes it was Friday, could not remember x

Heworth Chinese Takeaway 15 East parade York.
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On the face of it a late night chinese takeaway after a day of social drinking wouldnt be something that might be out of the ordinary. But did an ebriated Claudia say something in conversation over this particular meal that would have dire consequences for a local undercover operation. Was her policeman boyfriend part of the police/NCA team that uncovered a Chinese gang's massive cannabis factory at Elvington Ind estate?
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

Det Con Paul Johnson's interview gives us an insight into the scale of the Cannabis operation in his interview outside the Ind Unit.
He also says 'the investigations will continue and we will see were that takes us'.
Did those investigations lead them to certain properties at Heworth Place and East Parade that served as supply chains for locals, the Limes and York Uni students?
Note the business name on the Ind unit is Yunda Oriental Food Distribution I expect their customer list made interesting reading.
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

These are my opinions and my observations only.. DYOR
A policeman boyfriend
An undercover operation and raid on a Massive Cannabis factory in Elvington York in Feb.
Claudia's car is off road from Feb.
Text speak on CL's phone include Nugs and Cat street names for drugs. Cat being popular with students as it is said to improve mental function.
A change in Claudia's usual daily and social activities leading up to the 18th.
which in my opinion included involvement of the protection services
A possible significant incident outside Melrosegate PO on the 18th which was on her route home.
Claudia goes missing.
On the same night suspicious activity around Heworth Rd/Place
One of the Chinese Cannabis Farm gang members murdered in March
Richard Cartwright the owner of rented properties in East Parade and Heworth Place dies suddenly at his home in early April.

Its a complex case mainly due to Claudia having led large part of her life in secret I dont necessarily associate this secrecy solely on her alledged muliple personal relationships but more that she was possibly involved in the work of law enforcement/NCA and a possible boyfriend who worked in it.
Again these are my opinions only others may have a different view.
 
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A quote from the article

"She was plastered by the time I got there at 9pm after work and I didn’t really spend any time with her. I regret it so much. I kick myself about that. I beat myself up. I would have said different things to her that Friday.

Why what did she say that she regrets?
Perhaps she meant advise her !
 
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Heworth Chinese Takeaway 15 East parade York.
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On the face of it a late night chinese takeaway after a day of social drinking wouldnt be something that might be out of the ordinary. But did an ebriated Claudia say something in conversation over this particular meal that would have dire consequences for a local undercover operation. Was her policeman boyfriend part of the police/NCA team that uncovered a Chinese gang's massive cannabis factory at Elvington Ind estate?
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

Det Con Paul Johnson's interview gives us an insight into the scale of the Cannabis operation in his interview outside the Ind Unit.
He also says 'the investigations will continue and we will see were that takes us'.
Did those investigations lead them to certain properties at Heworth Place and East Parade that served as supply chains for locals, the Limes and York Uni students?
Note the business name on the Ind unit is Yunda Oriental Food Distribution I expect their customer list made interesting reading.
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

These are my opinions and my observations only.. DYOR
A policeman boyfriend
An undercover operation and raid on a Massive Cannabis factory in Elvington York in Feb.
Claudia's car is off road from Feb.
Text speak on CL's phone include Nugs and Cat street names for drugs. Cat being popular with students as it is said to improve mental function.
A change in Claudia's usual daily and social activities leading up to the 18th.
which in my opinion included involvement of the protection services
A possible significant incident outside Melrosegate PO on the 18th which was on her route home.
Claudia goes missing.
On the same night suspicious activity around Heworth Rd/Place
One of the Chinese Cannabis Farm gang members murdered in March
RC the owner of rented properties in East Parade and Heworth Place dies suddenly at his home in early April.

Its a complex case mainly due to Claudia having led large part of her life in secret I dont necessarily associate this secrecy solely on her alledged muliple personal relationships but more that she was possibly involved in the work of law enforcement/NCA and a possible boyfriend who worked in it.
Again these are my opinions only others may have a different view.
significant incident outside post office : can you tell us the time this happened ?
 
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Perhaps she meant advise her !

Yes you may be right. Its been said that claudia was loose lipped that night. Im so on the fence as to what happened to claudia. Im swaying between her friends are involved or know who is and are scared for their own safety to speak out.
 
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significant incident outside post office : can you tell us the time this happened ?

In my opinion an incident happened outside the Melrosegate PO on the 18th the cctv clip of Claudia or as PL said someoneone who looked like CL was posting a letter. stamps appear on the video. We are led to believe this footage was of CL on her route home from work on the 18th. Unfortunately no time or date stamps appear on the video footageto give an exact time.
An equiry to Cold Case may be able to confirm the time of the footage shown if you need it PJ.
 
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significant incident outside post office : can you tell us the time this happened ?
Oh,for some reason I thought of the lady in post office who was murdered by her husband that day.But that was not in Heworth was it? c
 
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Heworth Chinese Takeaway 15 East parade York.
View attachment 278016

On the face of it a late night chinese takeaway after a day of social drinking wouldnt be something that might be out of the ordinary. But did an ebriated Claudia say something in conversation over this particular meal that would have dire consequences for a local undercover operation. Was her policeman boyfriend part of the police/NCA team that uncovered a Chinese gang's massive cannabis factory at Elvington Ind estate?
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

Det Con Paul Johnson's interview gives us an insight into the scale of the Cannabis operation in his interview outside the Ind Unit.
He also says 'the investigations will continue and we will see were that takes us'.
Did those investigations lead them to certain properties at Heworth Place and East Parade that served as supply chains for locals, the Limes and York Uni students?
Note the business name on the Ind unit is Yunda Oriental Food Distribution I expect their customer list made interesting reading.
Inside York’s giant cannabis farm

These are my opinions and my observations only.. DYOR
A policeman boyfriend
An undercover operation and raid on a Massive Cannabis factory in Elvington York in Feb.
Claudia's car is off road from Feb.
Text speak on CL's phone include Nugs and Cat street names for drugs. Cat being popular with students as it is said to improve mental function.
A change in Claudia's usual daily and social activities leading up to the 18th.
which in my opinion included involvement of the protection services
A possible significant incident outside Melrosegate PO on the 18th which was on her route home.
Claudia goes missing.
On the same night suspicious activity around Heworth Rd/Place
One of the Chinese Cannabis Farm gang members murdered in March
RC the owner of rented properties in East Parade and Heworth Place dies suddenly at his home in early April.

Its a complex case mainly due to Claudia having led large part of her life in secret I dont necessarily associate this secrecy solely on her alledged muliple personal relationships but more that she was possibly involved in the work of law enforcement/NCA and a possible boyfriend who worked in it.
Again these are my opinions only others may have a different view.
Perhaps you’re right this is a story within a story within a story and if you are right the top commander would be aware of it so would be bank mangers possibly family and police handler ( not necessarily boyfriend )
Question: Could the person that harmed her got an inkling of what was going on but mistook it for infidelity/ cheating ?
if what you suspect is true ,we also understand that life operations have to carry on .I hope and pray some clever policeman in cold case can find a way of getting the killer without having to reveal the whole story for the sake of her family and hundreds others around the Uni .
 
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Have you got a link to the text information you have.

Mcat or cat as often referred to was flooding the streets at that time. It was seen as a cheap alternative to coke .
 
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Yes you may be right. Its been said that claudia was loose lipped that night. Im so on the fence as to what happened to claudia. Im swaying between her friends are involved or know who is and are scared for their own safety to speak out.
And do you blame them when the police call you Rouge and you know you’re not ( rouge ) ha they must be talking about the others ... I must be careful of what I say .
 
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